John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I think your comments are too strongly anti-Wall.

He's not a loser and he's not a bad leader.

He certainly did have a negative performance against Boston in game six.

It's perhaps a matter of Wall having come in the NBA in the same draft with Paul George, and him being closer to Paul George than he is with Otto Porter.



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I'm sure that is part of it, and I know I'm the "anti Wall" guy so I'll chill on this and just leave it at: I don't like these comments and I want Otto back next year

That's fair enough.

I agree that Wall is flat out wrong in implying that Morris is better than Porter. He also could have been more tactful in the way he described his reasoning for wanting Paul George. My guess is that it came out much more anti-Porter than Wall had intended. Wall isn't a media personality, he's a point guard. It doesn't surprise me that he was unable to express his thoughts in a perfectly accurate and concise way. I'm assuming that Porter understands this and probably isn't particularly offended. I'm sure they get along fine since they're really compatible as players.

Kanyewest, ask others.

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[keynote]

He is certainly wrong to think Markeiff is better than Otto.

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FWIW, I don't think he's necessarily saying that Morris is better than Porter; he's saying that SF is a more strategically important position in today's NBA than PF, given LeBron's dominance (and Durant, and Kawhi, and Giannis...etc.).

[cdouglas]

Why are you all being so sensitive? Wall wants to win and if you want to win you have to improve somewhere even if it means giving up a player you like. Now he needs to find a replacement for Gortat.

[cdouglas]

Wall shouldn’t say this or Wall shouldn’t say that! My goodness MEN shouldn’t be so sensitive!

[DANNYLANDOVER]

This has nothing to do with being too sensitive. I am pretty sure most Wizards fans would love to have PG on the team. Here is the statement that sticks out. He could've done without pretty much singling out Otto.

Look at our team. We are one piece away," Wall said. "We have the point guard, we have the shooting guard, we have the center, we have the power forward. Our 3-man, [Otto Porter Jr.], did great for us. You can't take nothing away from what he did. But, [George] is a guy that can guard LeBron and go back at LeBron. It's a piece that you're going to need to win. If you don't have a guy who can do that, you don't have a chance. ...

If John really thinks we have the power forward, then he has no idea why this team is mediocre.

[Dat2U]

Wall is likely just repeating what is said among the front office in DC. I believe prevailing wisdom around the locker room, front office and probably many in the media is that Markieff Morris is the Wizards 3rd best player.

[NatP4]

Yeah forsure, the front office is most definitely singling out Otto as the teams weakness, praising Keef Morris as the 3rd best player on the team and all the reports about the wizards priority being re signing Otto must be false.

It's not like they just interviewed Brooks and asked him about Paul George and he literally said "I like the players we have on our team" or Bradley Beal blogging about it being imperative that the team re signs Otto.

It's not like the guy who also said Anthony Bennett was the stretch 4 we NEED or tweeted "lol" at being left off of the all NBA 1st team defense could be wrong about anything ever.

[Illmatic12]

This has nothing to do with being too sensitive. I am pretty sure most Wizards fans would love to have PG on the team. Here is the statement that sticks out. He could've done without pretty much singling out Otto.

Look at our team. We are one piece away," Wall said. "We have the point guard, we have the shooting guard, we have the center, we have the power forward. Our 3-man, [Otto Porter Jr.], did great for us. You can't take nothing away from what he did. But, [George] is a guy that can guard LeBron and go back at LeBron. It's a piece that you're going to need to win. If you don't have a guy who can do that, you don't have a chance. ...

If John really thinks we have the power forward, then he has no idea why this team is mediocre.

After reading all the comments he never once said Kieff is better than Otto. What he's saying - and to anyone who's a basketball junkie like John is and who follows the league - is that Otto's position leaguewide is a lot more competitive than Kieff and Gortat's position.

There are very few teams nowadays that run a lot of offense through a PF/C. Many teams in the modern NBA have a wing player who is the primary creator, and Paul George has been an All-Defensive team performer based on his ability to defend those types of players.

It wasn't meant as a slight at Otto - that said, I hope he does take it as a slight and uses it as motivation to get in the weight room. He's a good player but no secret he's too skinny to be the type of formidable force that can go toe-to-toe with elite SFs like LBJ, Kawhi, Giannis etc and that's what this team needs.

[Dat2U]

Yeah forsure, the front office is most definitely singling out Otto as the teams weakness, praising Keef Morris as the 3rd best player on the team and all the reports about the wizards priority being re signing Otto must be false.

It's not like they just interviewed Brooks and asked him about Paul George and he literally said "I like the players we have on our team" or Bradley Beal blogging about it being imperative that the team re signs Otto.

It's not like the guy who also said Anthony Bennett was the stretch 4 we NEED or tweeted "lol" at being left off of the all NBA 1st team defense could be wrong about anything ever.

Well I'm sure we can dump Wall if need be. That would give your boy an opportunity to prove he's a legit PG. More minutes for Sato, Mac & McCullough. A win, win, win scenario.

Except for 99% of the fan base.

[NatP4]

Yeah forsure, the front office is most definitely singling out Otto as the teams weakness, praising Keef Morris as the 3rd best player on the team and all the reports about the wizards priority being re signing Otto must be false.

It's not like they just interviewed Brooks and asked him about Paul George and he literally said "I like the players we have on our team" or Bradley Beal blogging about it being imperative that the team re signs Otto.

It's not like the guy who also said Anthony Bennett was the stretch 4 we NEED or tweeted "lol" at being left off of the all NBA 1st team defense could be wrong about anything ever.

Well I'm sure we can dump Wall if need be. That would give your boy an opportunity to prove he's a legit PG. More minutes for Sato, Mac & McCullough. A win, win, win scenario.

Except for 99% of the fan base.

This is a brilliant post. Bravo.

[nate33]

Wall is likely just repeating what is said among the front office in DC. I believe prevailing wisdom around the locker room, front office and probably many in the media is that Markieff Morris is the Wizards 3rd best player.

It seems so difficult to believe, but, sadly, this might well be true. In reality, Morris isn't even our 4th best player, much less the 3rd best.

[payitforward]

This has nothing to do with being too sensitive. I am pretty sure most Wizards fans would love to have PG on the team. Here is the statement that sticks out. He could've done without pretty much singling out Otto.

Look at our team. We are one piece away," Wall said. "We have the point guard, we have the shooting guard, we have the center, we have the power forward. Our 3-man, [Otto Porter Jr.], did great for us. You can't take nothing away from what he did. But, [George] is a guy that can guard LeBron and go back at LeBron. It's a piece that you're going to need to win. If you don't have a guy who can do that, you don't have a chance. ...

If John really thinks we have the power forward, then he has no idea why this team is mediocre.

Huh. I don't see that as criticism of Otto, & I don't see it as less than perfectly clear.

First off, he says Porter "did great for us. You can't take nothing away from what he did." I wouldn't call that criticism!

What he says next "...a guy that can guard LeBron and go back at LeBron is a piece that you're going to need to win. If you don't have a guy who can do that, you don't have a chance" -- where "win" & "have a chance" mean "get past the Cavs in the LeBron era" -- I don't see that as a problem statement either.

Where he's wrong, however, is in over-rating Morris. That's clearly wrong.

[payitforward]

Wall is likely just repeating what is said among the front office in DC. I believe prevailing wisdom around the locker room, front office and probably many in the media is that Markieff Morris is the Wizards 3rd best player.

It seems so difficult to believe, but, sadly, this might well be true. In reality, Morris isn't even our 4th best player, much less the 3rd best.

Why difficult? Morris has never been a good player. 5 guys played 2000+ minutes for us last year. Morris was easily the worst of them. Way the worst.

2 other guys played 1000+ minutes for us. Morris was worse than them as well.

An additional 5 guys played between 500 - 800 minutes for us. Morris was worse than all those guys except one (Trey Burke was worse).

[nate33]

Wall is likely just repeating what is said among the front office in DC. I believe prevailing wisdom around the locker room, front office and probably many in the media is that Markieff Morris is the Wizards 3rd best player.

It seems so difficult to believe, but, sadly, this might well be true. In reality, Morris isn't even our 4th best player, much less the 3rd best.

Why difficult? Morris has never been a good player. 5 guys played 2000+ minutes for us last year. Morris was easily the worst of them. Way the worst.

2 other guys played 1000+ minutes for us. Morris was worse than them as well.

An additional 5 guys played between 500 - 800 minutes for us. Morris was worse than all those guys except one (Trey Burke was worse).

It's difficult to believe that players and management are foolish enough to consider Morris our third best player.

[Meliorus]

There was a podcast with the clown J Michael and another Wizards writer and they were acting all profound making the realization, "I think Markieff Morris is the guy who completed the big 3"

[Meliorus]

There was a podcast with the clown J Michael and another Wizards writer and they were acting all profound making the realization, "I think Markieff Morris is the guy who completes the big 3"

[verbal8]

There was a podcast with the clown J Michael and another Wizards writer and they were acting all profound making the realization, "I think Markieff Morris is the guy who completed the big 3"

Were Trey Burke and Bogdanovic the rest of the "big 3"?

[NatP4]

There was a podcast with the clown J Michael and another Wizards writer and they were acting all profound making the realization, "I think Markieff Morris is the guy who completed the big 3"

Were Trey Burke and Bogdanovic the rest of the "big 3"?

And Brandon Jennings brought the veteran presence

[NatP4]

It seems so difficult to believe, but, sadly, this might well be true. In reality, Morris isn't even our 4th best player, much less the 3rd best.

Why difficult? Morris has never been a good player. 5 guys played 2000+ minutes for us last year. Morris was easily the worst of them. Way the worst.

2 other guys played 1000+ minutes for us. Morris was worse than them as well.

An additional 5 guys played between 500 - 800 minutes for us. Morris was worse than all those guys except one (Trey Burke was worse).

It's difficult to believe that players and management are foolish enough to consider Morris our third best player.

Oubre said he was a top 5 power forward in the league and better than Paul Millsap. Not kidding

[DANNYLANDOVER]

This has nothing to do with being too sensitive. I am pretty sure most Wizards fans would love to have PG on the team. Here is the statement that sticks out. He could've done without pretty much singling out Otto.

Look at our team. We are one piece away," Wall said. "We have the point guard, we have the shooting guard, we have the center, we have the power forward. Our 3-man, [Otto Porter Jr.], did great for us. You can't take nothing away from what he did. But, [George] is a guy that can guard LeBron and go back at LeBron. It's a piece that you're going to need to win. If you don't have a guy who can do that, you don't have a chance. ...

If John really thinks we have the power forward, then he has no idea why this team is mediocre.

Huh. I don't see that as criticism of Otto, & I don't see it as less than perfectly clear.

First off, he says Porter "did great for us. You can't take nothing away from what he did." I wouldn't call that criticism!

What he says next "...a guy that can guard LeBron and go back at LeBron is a piece that you're going to need to win. If you don't have a guy who can do that, you don't have a chance" -- where "win" & "have a chance" mean "get past the Cavs in the LeBron era" -- I don't see that as a problem statement either.

Where he's wrong, however, is in over-rating Morris. That's clearly wrong.

Hmm I think you are being pedantic. We are all adults. I think you should know what a back-handed comment is. My only problem with his statement is that he mentioned every other starting position, but SF as being set in stone. He could've done without mentioning that.
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