official Melo trade speculation - thread 2

[VirginiaKnickFan]

Phil has never even said he has presented Melo with a trade. Melo has never said he has rejected a trade. Phil has said he hasn't found an acceptable trade for both parties. Melo's job isn't to go out and make trades. Melo's stance in public has always been to bring him and trade and he would look at it then.

This is all speculation based on sauces being legit or been leaked in purpose

Nothing will happen with Melo until all the free agents have made their decisions and signed on with their respective teams. That's when Melo will scout around and make a decision re which teams he'd like to play for (i.e. willing to waive his NTC for).

He wants a buyout so his NTC over a trade wouldn't matter.

[dakomish23]

At what point in time did the Knicks do Melo wrong. Which is the vibe i am getting from some of you. I really don't get it, because they have always tried putting pieces around him.

Are you kidding me? Phil has done melo wrong countless times.

You mean like that time Phil told him we were gonna rebuild and asked him to waive the NTC, and Melo said nah, which led to us trading for Rose and signing Noah, because Phil thought Melo was still good enough to get us to the playoffs?

PJax wanted Noah all on his own. Don't believe me, see his quote in my signature.

[newyorker4ever]

Remember that Melo also said that if Phil told him they wanna go in a different direction and build with young guys that he would talk to Phil about waiving his NTC. Has Melo stood behind his own statement??

[dakomish23]

His boss game him the option in his is going to exercise. The boss then can't blame the employee for exercising the option he gave him in the first place. The fans should be mad at the boss who did a terrible job and gave the employee the option in his contract.

But Melo should of done what he told his boss he was going to do which is to change his game to play in his boss' system which he didn't do. If he would of told his boss that he wasn't going to do it then maybe his boss wouldn't have given him not only the NTC but the contract all together.

You were in that negotiation meeting?

[NOOB77]

Remember that Melo also said that if Phil told him they wanna go in a different direction and build with young guys that he would talk to Phil about waiving his NTC. Has Melo stood behind his own statement??

How do you know he hasn't?

[DOT]

Are you kidding me? Phil has done melo wrong countless times.

You mean like that time Phil told him we were gonna rebuild and asked him to waive the NTC, and Melo said nah, which led to us trading for Rose and signing Noah, because Phil thought Melo was still good enough to get us to the playoffs?

PJax wanted Noah all on his own. Don't believe me, see his quote in my signature.

Again, y'all missing the point, I'm not trying to say Melo is responsible for Noah's contract

But Melo did say he would waive the NTC if Phil told him we were rebuilding. Phil told him we would rebuild at the end of the 16 season, and Melo declined to waive the NTC. Phil then figured if he couldn't move Melo, he'd try to make the playoffs one more time, because he still thinks Melo is a good player, so the Rose, Noah, and Lee moves happened

[dakomish23]

hey melo has done a lot for the knicks, like that time he

Led the team to its only back to back playoff seasons in 15 years?

Facts not fiction. Come join reality

Is that what a $124 million super star got us?? Shyt re-sign him then if we can get two trips to the playoffs in 7 years...

No let's just pay 60 million to have a guy try to make the playoffs every year and fail miserably. Give him an extension! He's been great!

[Knox]

Just throwing this out there ... I am not sure but could Melo Restructure his Contract to make him a more tradable ? What if he keeps his contract and extends the years. Kind of what they wanted us to do with the Salary cap hit. Would he be willing to do that to be moved out of NY ? Is that even possible?

[Greenie]

correct

People forget STAT.

Its such a **** joke. Phoenix was NEVER going to give him more then 3 years. And this was coming after he put up 23.1 and 8.9 on 56% FG on 15.4 FGA. I just don't get it. Was STAT that much of a good soldier that people seem to forget it was impossible to get Melo the help he needed because Amare's Knees ate up our cap space. People have never vibed with Melo. Not from the jump. This **** is music to their ears. Everyone still pissed about the assets we gave up to get Melo. I am still pissed about Amare's salary all those years.

I'm not made at STAT. I'm mad at the Knicks for signing him...and then wasting the amnesty clause on Billups.

[F N 11]

Then why keep bringing up a trade and his contract? Why keep calling him selfish...financially. Greedy? All about his brand? All about the money?

It comes off as salt.

We had to gut the team to get him because he wanted to make sure he got his money before a lockout. His value was already "New york only" so we had no competition. However you see common sense as fans being jealous. Just stop. I should stop watching ball since they have all this bread and nice chit. How you sound?

How do you sound being mad at the player?

You have a child and they ask for junk food while out running errands. You tell them to wait until you get home for a healthy meal. They tell you again they want some junk food. You give in and give it to them. Are you mad at the kid? Say no and move the fuq on.

The Knicks could have said no. They didn't. Stop holding Melo responsible for that ****.

The knicks could of said no. Again its everyone's fault but Carmelo Anthony's.

How about this. Lets make it about basketball. why should Melo stay with our current situation greenie?

[Buttah304]

People forget STAT.

Its such a **** joke. Phoenix was NEVER going to give him more then 3 years. And this was coming after he put up 23.1 and 8.9 on 56% FG on 15.4 FGA. I just don't get it. Was STAT that much of a good soldier that people seem to forget it was impossible to get Melo the help he needed because Amare's Knees ate up our cap space. People have never vibed with Melo. Not from the jump. This **** is music to their ears. Everyone still pissed about the assets we gave up to get Melo. I am still pissed about Amare's salary all those years.

I'm not made at STAT. I'm mad at the Knicks for signing him...and then wasting the amnesty clause on Billups.

Knicks fans should not even speak of the Amnesty on Billups. That **** is way too dark of days to re-live.

[dakomish23]

You mean like that time Phil told him we were gonna rebuild and asked him to waive the NTC, and Melo said nah, which led to us trading for Rose and signing Noah, because Phil thought Melo was still good enough to get us to the playoffs?

PJax wanted Noah all on his own. Don't believe me, see his quote in my signature.

Again, y'all missing the point, I'm not trying to say Melo is responsible for Noah's contract

But Melo did say he would waive the NTC if Phil told him we were rebuilding. Phil told him we would rebuild at the end of the 16 season, and Melo declined to waive the NTC. Phil then figured if he couldn't move Melo, he'd try to make the playoffs one more time, because he still thinks Melo is a good player, so the Rose, Noah, and Lee moves happened

Nope you're missing the point. PJax would of signed Noah if Melo was on the roster or not.

[NOOB77]

Just throwing this out there ... I am not sure but could Melo Restructure his Contract to make him a more tradable ? What if he keeps his contract and extends the years. Kind of what they wanted us to do with the Salary cap hit. Would he be willing to do that to be moved out of NY ? Is that even possible?

Why would on earth would he ever do Phil any favors?

[IllmaticHandler]

Get that Money Melo. leave on your own terms. You don't owe anybody anything but your family.

[newyorker4ever]

His boss game him the option in his is going to exercise. The boss then can't blame the employee for exercising the option he gave him in the first place. The fans should be mad at the boss who did a terrible job and gave the employee the option in his contract.

But Melo should of done what he told his boss he was going to do which is to change his game to play in his boss' system which he didn't do. If he would of told his boss that he wasn't going to do it then maybe his boss wouldn't have given him not only the NTC but the contract all together.

let's say this is true, then what ? what if he did "play" in the system ? you would want to keep him ? how many more wins do you think we would have ? and to what end ? a worst daft pick ? or if h really really tried, cleveland steamrolling us when we snatch the 8th spot ?

I obviously can't answer if we would of won more with him playing the game the way Phil/Jeff wanted him to play but there were games every once in a while that you could see Melo out there playing it the right way and he's actually a really good passer when he wants to be, so while i can't answer whether or not we'd be better, i can say that i would of loved to of seen him play that way for a full season to get a better judgement on how good we could be with him buying in.

[Capn'O]

There's still some hope for a trade depending on what CP3 decides in a few days. I don't see a whole lot on the Cavs I'd be interested in but a team receiving Carmelo might prefer to jettison some dead weight contracts and attach a small asset. The Spurs would be a best bet with LMA pissed off.

It's looking bleak though...

[Knox]

Get that Money Melo. leave on your own terms. You don't owe anybody anything but your family.

Watch on YouTube

This is Melo not batman

[HEZI]

NY Post: Carmelo Anthony starts pushing for his ideal Knicks exit.

If Phil Jackson can’t bully Carmelo Anthony into accepting a trade, maybe Carmelo Anthony can bully Phil Jackson into a buyout.

While Anthony’s preference remains to stay in New York, an ESPN report cautioned, his camp has tried to start buyout discussions with the Knicks. By allowing Anthony to become a free agent after a buyout, the path would be cleared for him to join buddy LeBron James with the Cavaliers and his quest to knock off the Warriors.

According to the report, the Knicks have not yet entertained this idea, still wanting to rid themselves cleanly of Anthony’s contract and bring back a return via trade. But with Anthony’s no-trade clause, that has proven tricky.

If the Knicks decide they can’t convince Anthony to accept a trade — or if they can’t find a deal that both satisfies the franchise and works with a trade partner, who would absorb the two years and $54.1 million left on his deal, plus a 15 percent trade kicker — they could use the stretch provision on the 33-year-old fading star.

The Post detailed earlier this month that using the provision would free Anthony and reduce his cap hit, giving the Knicks an extra $15.4 million of space to spend this summer in free agency, which begins July 1.

Do not use the stretch provision. Just waive him then if you have to and wait another 2 years and his contract will be gone. We don't need a big free agent signing this summer, forget the cap space.

[bokoli]

80 pages and it's pretty straightfoward. Nobody wants him, nobody will pay so much for him every season. It's a buyout sooner or later.

[IllmaticHandler]

Get that Money Melo. leave on your own terms. You don't owe anybody anything but your family.

This is Melo not batman

I would not give a fucck if its Clark Kent.