Russell Westbrook is the 2017 MVP

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Re: Russell Westbrook is the 2017 MVP 

Post#21 » by Kizz Fastfists » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:32 pm

InTheSabonus wrote:"Triple doubles are arbitrary!!1"

Here's a number that definitely isn't arbitrary. MVPs: Westbrook 1 Harden 0


MVP is arbitrary. It is the opinion of a large collection of idiots. I don't think they got it right, but my arbitrary interpretation is that the MVP is the best player and that is LeBron. If your arbitrary interpretation is that it is the player that had the best statistical season then they got it right. A triple double is factual production on the court. A triple double is as arbitrary as a win.
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Re: Russell Westbrook is the 2017 MVP 

Post#22 » by Andre Roberstan » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:02 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
InTheSabonus wrote:"Triple doubles are arbitrary!!1"

Here's a number that definitely isn't arbitrary. MVPs: Westbrook 1 Harden 0


MVP is arbitrary. It is the opinion of a large collection of idiots. I don't think they got it right, but my arbitrary interpretation is that the MVP is the best player and that is LeBron. If your arbitrary interpretation is that it is the player that had the best statistical season then they got it right. A triple double is factual production on the court. A triple double is as arbitrary as a win.


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Re: Russell Westbrook is the 2017 MVP 

Post#23 » by slick_watts » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:28 pm

if nothing else, mvp award shares are generally a great snapshot of how a player was regarded relative to their peers.
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Re: Russell Westbrook is the 2017 MVP 

Post#24 » by Kizz Fastfists » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:13 pm

Andre Roberstan wrote:What actually is life? Does it have meaning? Are we all just soap bubbles floating through the endless void? Or are we all figments of the imagination of some vast computer simulation, living out what feels like life through an infinite string of quantum bits? :lol:


What actually came out of nothingness? Is the universe eternal and has no point of origin? Is there an all-powerful being that has no point of origin that created it? Is Russ really the the child of Zeuz or Oden or whatever name you want to give him? Is he just a mere mortal? These questions and more to never be answered to the satisfaction of anyone. :D
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Re: Russell Westbrook is the 2017 MVP 

Post#25 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:27 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
InTheSabonus wrote:"Triple doubles are arbitrary!!1"

Here's a number that definitely isn't arbitrary. MVPs: Westbrook 1 Harden 0


MVP is arbitrary. It is the opinion of a large collection of idiots. I don't think they got it right, but my arbitrary interpretation is that the MVP is the best player and that is LeBron. If your arbitrary interpretation is that it is the player that had the best statistical season then they got it right. A triple double is factual production on the court. A triple double is as arbitrary as a win.


MVP is arbitrary but this debate will never end until 1) people gets what ''MVP'' means or 2) they make a ''best player of the year'' award.

Iggy deserved winning finals MVP of NBA 2014-2015. Was he the better player? With Curry, Klay, Green, Lebron, Kyrie, of course not, that's not the point. He played out of his mind and didn't let LeBron score, while Curry was trash. Period

Lebron wasn't that good during this regular season. He rested a lot and he's right to do it given his age if he wants to be 100% comes playoff time.
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Re: Russell Westbrook is the 2017 MVP 

Post#26 » by bondom34 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:31 pm

Well it just got philosophical in here.
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Re: Russell Westbrook is the 2017 MVP 

Post#27 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:32 pm

And seriously, MVP awards are *** great. In soccer if Real Madrid wins they will give it to Cristiano Ronaldo, if Barcelona wins they will give it to Messi, even if they sucked or if any other played better (which doesn't happen so often but whatever). Those are such result/oriented awards that they sucks. That's why I really think MVP awards are great (even if not perfect).
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Re: Russell Westbrook is the 2017 MVP 

Post#28 » by RunOKC » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:00 pm

Grats Russ
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Re: Russell Westbrook is the 2017 MVP 

Post#29 » by spearsy23 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:09 pm

Andre Roberstan wrote:
Kizz Fastfists wrote:
InTheSabonus wrote:"Triple doubles are arbitrary!!1"

Here's a number that definitely isn't arbitrary. MVPs: Westbrook 1 Harden 0


MVP is arbitrary. It is the opinion of a large collection of idiots. I don't think they got it right, but my arbitrary interpretation is that the MVP is the best player and that is LeBron. If your arbitrary interpretation is that it is the player that had the best statistical season then they got it right. A triple double is factual production on the court. A triple double is as arbitrary as a win.


What actually is life? Does it have meaning? Are we all just soap bubbles floating through the endless void? Or are we all figments of the imagination of some vast computer simulation, living out what feels like life through an infinite string of quantum bits? :lol:

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Re: Russell Westbrook is the 2017 MVP 

Post#30 » by Andre Roberstan » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:13 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Andre Roberstan wrote:What actually is life? Does it have meaning? Are we all just soap bubbles floating through the endless void? Or are we all figments of the imagination of some vast computer simulation, living out what feels like life through an infinite string of quantum bits? :lol:


What actually came out of nothingness? Is the universe eternal and has no point of origin? Is there an all-powerful being that has no point of origin that created it? Is Russ really the the child of Zeuz or Oden or whatever name you want to give him? Is he just a mere mortal? These questions and more to never be answered to the satisfaction of anyone. :D


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Re: Russell Westbrook is the 2017 MVP 

Post#31 » by InTheSabonus » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:41 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
InTheSabonus wrote:"Triple doubles are arbitrary!!1"

Here's a number that definitely isn't arbitrary. MVPs: Westbrook 1 Harden 0


MVP is arbitrary. It is the opinion of a large collection of idiots. I don't think they got it right, but my arbitrary interpretation is that the MVP is the best player and that is LeBron. If your arbitrary interpretation is that it is the player that had the best statistical season then they got it right. A triple double is factual production on the court. A triple double is as arbitrary as a win.


My point was more while people tried to discredit the concept of a triple double throughout Russell's season, and technically there is the whole "is 30/10/10 better than 30/8/14??" thing.

But the MVP is something that can't really be taken away like that. People can agree and disagree, but the award has a lot of historical significance to the NBA, and ultimately one MVP award isn't an arbitrary number. It's pretty tangible.

I do think it would help if it was clearer exactly what the MVP was supposed to be. Some think just straight up best player, others more in the valuable sense. I think that since the name of the award is "most valuable" not "best" it should go to the guys that simply had the most value to their team that season, and maybe with the qualifier of at least making the playoffs. Sometimes that'll be the LeBrons of the league. But the Westbrooks of the league who drag **** teams to the playoffs probably deserve just as much of a look in.

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