McGregFan wrote:PhilBlackson wrote:McGregFan wrote:
Orlando had a plethora of young players that were exceeding expectations and everyone was raving about hennigan and the young talent he managed to accumulate after the howard trade. Everyone thought orlando would be at the top of the east by now, this isn't any different than everyone thinking philly will automatically be at the top of the east 3 years from now. Nothing is guaranteed. Tanking isn't guaranteed to accomplish a championship and neither does standing pat and trying to be just competitive. Every championship team has a unique pathway that pushes them over the top. Tankers really need to stop with the in your face "blah blah blah the sky is falling we are the worst franchise in sports" approach in every thread though because its getting **** annoying
I just said it in a previous response but there isn't a SINGLE player that ORL drafted that was regarded to be on the level of Markelle Fultz and funny thing is Fultz is actually the lowest ceiling of their young "Big 3". Comparing ORL to PHI is a joke, simple and plain.
But yes nothing is guaranteed but it's also dependent on having good management. One thing is obvious and that's that ORL hasn't had good management in decades hence Weltman just joining there. Also everyone here seems to think Masai is quite the GM and have an eye for talent, I'd certainly like to see what he can do when he was the first guy to recognize Giannis' potential.
Certainly every team has a unique path to a championship but there are very few exceptions that didn't have the STARTING point by drafting ONE of their core players that ATTRACTED other star players. To say tanking doesn't work (intentional or not) is pure bs. There are very few, in fact I can't even think of a SINGLE team that was just hovering in a top 4 spot that was CAPPED OUT and suddenly became a legit contender by staying the course....so the ratio of teams that tanked (intentional or not) to get a TRUE star player greatly outweighs the number of teams that lingered a level below true contenders and somehow out of nowhere became one.
Do you think tanking automatically means you're going to win the #1 pick? How many high ass lotto picks have the magic had? The magic have been tanking the last 5 years and just like a lot of other teams who tank their luck has been complete ****
So here we go again with the Magic as if this is your saving grace...
Now let's pretend the Magic had better management and re do some of their picks and try to imagine how they might have been different today since you want to dwell on them as an example and over look PHI and also not provide your own example of a team that is doing what you're suggesting we do and that's remain a slightly above middle of the pack team in the "top 4" ...out East *ahem* that is CAPPED OUT but somehow you like their odds to make a championship contender despite the overwhelmingly favorable ratio of teams that started the championship cores with at least one player from tanking....PLEASE MAKE SURE TO GIVE ME A COUPLE EXAMPLES IN YOUR NEXT RESPONSE
So let's pretend ORL had different management and made different selections, perhaps Masai was there instead
2013 - take Giannis instead of Oladipo
2014 - I don't know, Randle or Smart with their 1st pick and LaVine or Hood with their 2nd
2015 - Devin Booker or maybe Myles Turner instead
2016 - no pick (it was traded) because of course they just had to add Ibaka for no apparent reason, would have likely been higher
2017 - Jonathan Isaac (not bad) could have been Dennis Smith Jr
So let's just whip together what the Orlando Magic could have been RIGHT NOW with the same assets...
Dennis Smith Jr
Zach LaVine
Giannis Antentokounmpo
Julius Randle
Myles Turner
Yeah that doesn't sound too bad does it?! But what a difference *ahem* good management and draft decisions can make. I would gladly switch swap out cores
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