official Melo trade speculation - thread 2

[Jeff Van Gully]

Melo wins either way.

I guess, Phil can try to trun everyone against Melo, if he goes out and delivers some amazing quality speech about Melo hurting the team blablabla.. so we are gonna sit him, and somehow everyone accepts it, and Melo at least makes his team-wishlist bigger.

But right now, he is not getting good return.

Trade him for garbage, buy him out, let him stay and do nothing - Melo wins.

melo doesn't win if what he wants is to stay a knick, which by all accounts has always been the case. that's why this is so trife.

Well, if he wants to stay a Knick, he can do that for 2 more years and there is nothing Phil or whoever can do about it.

they can always cash him out.

[DOLPHIN2020]

Berman: Knicks balk at Carmelo Anthony power play to force way to Cavs.

An ESPN report stated Tuesday that Anthony’s agents have approached the Knicks about getting waived via a buyout in order to sign as a free agent with the Cavaliers, and got rebuffed.

It is hardly a secret James would love Anthony on the roster. Nevertheless, the mixed messages coming from the Anthony camp is confusing. The same report stated Anthony’s preference is to remain a Knick — which corresponds to what Jackson said. But the allure of James and his former Knicks buddies J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert have become enticing.

A source confirmed the Knicks are aware Anthony prefers getting released rather than agreeing to a trade, even if he would lose a trade-kicker bonus. Anthony understands the Cavaliers don’t have the assets to make a deal for him, and this way he can add depth to the Eastern Conference champions without taking away a major piece such as Kevin Love, who is being dangled for Paul George.

According to a source, Jackson’s stance is he will not give up Anthony without gaining an asset or two and remains determined to find a trade partner. After all, Anthony, 33, is just a few months older than James.

The Knicks have not entirely ruled out the stretch provision with Anthony, which would give them an extra $15.4 million in cap space in spreading his $54.1 million contract over five years.

But the Knicks, according to a source, would consider that maneuver only as “an asset’’ if it means the extra cap savings definitively would net them a star player.

“That’s unlikely,’’ the source said.

Otherwise, the cap space is an abstract asset in their eyes, not to mention Anthony would be on the books for five years in the stretch scenario.

No way should we let this guy go to the Cavs for nothing. He had the Knicks trade every last asset to force his way to NY and now he is lobbying to preserve the Cavs talent. GTFO.

[Oscirus]

Melo want's to go to the Cavs
Cavs don't want the assets for Melo
Melo wants a release from the Knicks
Knicks want assets in a trade
Melo has a NTC.

I wonder who's going to win this battle.

[Global Game]

Trade Carmelo to Toronto for Demar Derozan.
90 minute flight to Toronto.

Raptors can sign Tim Hardaway Jr.

Shake things up NBA. Do something.
The product needs a jolt of activity.

[reub]

Berman: Knicks balk at Carmelo Anthony power play to force way to Cavs.

An ESPN report stated Tuesday that Anthony’s agents have approached the Knicks about getting waived via a buyout in order to sign as a free agent with the Cavaliers, and got rebuffed.

It is hardly a secret James would love Anthony on the roster. Nevertheless, the mixed messages coming from the Anthony camp is confusing. The same report stated Anthony’s preference is to remain a Knick — which corresponds to what Jackson said. But the allure of James and his former Knicks buddies J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert have become enticing.

A source confirmed the Knicks are aware Anthony prefers getting released rather than agreeing to a trade, even if he would lose a trade-kicker bonus. Anthony understands the Cavaliers don’t have the assets to make a deal for him, and this way he can add depth to the Eastern Conference champions without taking away a major piece such as Kevin Love, who is being dangled for Paul George.

According to a source, Jackson’s stance is he will not give up Anthony without gaining an asset or two and remains determined to find a trade partner. After all, Anthony, 33, is just a few months older than James.

The Knicks have not entirely ruled out the stretch provision with Anthony, which would give them an extra $15.4 million in cap space in spreading his $54.1 million contract over five years.

But the Knicks, according to a source, would consider that maneuver only as “an asset’’ if it means the extra cap savings definitively would net them a star player.

“That’s unlikely,’’ the source said.

Otherwise, the cap space is an abstract asset in their eyes, not to mention Anthony would be on the books for five years in the stretch scenario.

No way should we let this guy go to the Cavs for nothing. He had the Knicks trade every last asset to force his way to NY and now he is lobbying to preserve the Cavs talent. GTFO.

The Cavs have future assets. I would take their 2020 and 2021 first round picks because they will be a high lottery team by then. This is what the Celtics do and we should take a page from their book here.

[Knox]

What is a legit realistic deal the Knicks could do to send him to the Wizards? I am assuming that the Sixers as a trade is not a reality

[mpharris36]

Berman: Knicks balk at Carmelo Anthony power play to force way to Cavs.

An ESPN report stated Tuesday that Anthony’s agents have approached the Knicks about getting waived via a buyout in order to sign as a free agent with the Cavaliers, and got rebuffed.

It is hardly a secret James would love Anthony on the roster. Nevertheless, the mixed messages coming from the Anthony camp is confusing. The same report stated Anthony’s preference is to remain a Knick — which corresponds to what Jackson said. But the allure of James and his former Knicks buddies J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert have become enticing.

A source confirmed the Knicks are aware Anthony prefers getting released rather than agreeing to a trade, even if he would lose a trade-kicker bonus. Anthony understands the Cavaliers don’t have the assets to make a deal for him, and this way he can add depth to the Eastern Conference champions without taking away a major piece such as Kevin Love, who is being dangled for Paul George.

According to a source, Jackson’s stance is he will not give up Anthony without gaining an asset or two and remains determined to find a trade partner. After all, Anthony, 33, is just a few months older than James.

The Knicks have not entirely ruled out the stretch provision with Anthony, which would give them an extra $15.4 million in cap space in spreading his $54.1 million contract over five years.

But the Knicks, according to a source, would consider that maneuver only as “an asset’’ if it means the extra cap savings definitively would net them a star player.

“That’s unlikely,’’ the source said.

Otherwise, the cap space is an abstract asset in their eyes, not to mention Anthony would be on the books for five years in the stretch scenario.

No way should we let this guy go to the Cavs for nothing. He had the Knicks trade every last asset to force his way to NY and now he is lobbying to preserve the Cavs talent. GTFO.

of he wants the buyout he gives up the ALL the player option $$$. If he wants the cavs and the cavs have nothing for us...he needs to waive the extra $$$. It's that simple.

[Fury]

Woooooow so now Melo doesn't want the Cavs to give up depth after he took all our depth years ago? Wth

[god shammgod]

they have no depth to give up. i saw their bench in the finals. you want shump and channing frye lol

[VirginiaKnickFan]

they have no depth to give up. i saw their bench in the finals. you want shump and channing frye lol

[IllmaticHandler]

Dont know if this was posted but Melo aint just walking away from the Knicks and NYC.

Carmelo Anthony pitching political reality show

One reason Carmelo Anthony wants to stay in New York with the Knicks is that he’s been pitching a reality show about his work as a political activist.

It would be a weekly half-hour show of Anthony discussing issues with other civic-minded celebrities and going to meetings and rallies.

Anthony, an outspoken supporter of Black Lives Matter issues, hosted a town hall meeting on police brutality in South Los Angeles last July.

The perennial All-Star has a no-trade contract with the Knicks and seems intent on staying, even though Knicks president Phil Jackson has said he’d “be better off somewhere else” and “We’ve not been able to win with him on the court.”

It is doubtful Anthony could shoot a reality TV series about his political activism if he played in a smaller market such as Cleveland (where trade rumors have popped up).

Sources said Anthony pitched the show to HBO and other cable networks.

One cable exec told me, “We take dozens of meetings every year from folks with programming ideas. I cannot say if it’s moving forward or say it’s stalled. We had a meeting. Nothing else.”

The new show would be a far cry from his earlier foray into reality TV, his wife’s “La La’s Full Court Life,” which ran for five seasons on VH1.

Melo and wife La La separated in April after it was reported that the NBA star got another woman pregnant. But neither party has filed for divorce.

http://pagesix.com/2017/06/27/carmelo-anthony-pitching-political-reality-show/

[Capn'O]

But the Knicks, according to a source, would consider that maneuver only as “an asset’’ if it means the extra cap savings definitively would net them a star player.

“That’s unlikely,’’ the source said.

Otherwise, the cap space is an abstract asset in their eyes, not to mention Anthony would be on the books for five years in the stretch scenario.

This piece is actually very reassuring.

[Esq-4]

Dont know if this was posted but Melo aint just walking away from the Knicks and NYC.

Carmelo Anthony pitching political reality show

One reason Carmelo Anthony wants to stay in New York with the Knicks is that he’s been pitching a reality show about his work as a political activist.

It would be a weekly half-hour show of Anthony discussing issues with other civic-minded celebrities and going to meetings and rallies.

Anthony, an outspoken supporter of Black Lives Matter issues, hosted a town hall meeting on police brutality in South Los Angeles last July.

The perennial All-Star has a no-trade contract with the Knicks and seems intent on staying, even though Knicks president Phil Jackson has said he’d “be better off somewhere else” and “We’ve not been able to win with him on the court.”

It is doubtful Anthony could shoot a reality TV series about his political activism if he played in a smaller market such as Cleveland (where trade rumors have popped up).

Sources said Anthony pitched the show to HBO and other cable networks.

One cable exec told me, “We take dozens of meetings every year from folks with programming ideas. I cannot say if it’s moving forward or say it’s stalled. We had a meeting. Nothing else.”

The new show would be a far cry from his earlier foray into reality TV, his wife’s “La La’s Full Court Life,” which ran for five seasons on VH1.

Melo and wife La La separated in April after it was reported that the NBA star got another woman pregnant. But neither party has filed for divorce.

http://pagesix.com/2017/06/27/carmelo-anthony-pitching-political-reality-show/

Then send him to the Nets. I'm not anti Melo, but just want to move on

[mpharris36]

they have no depth to give up. i saw their bench in the finals. you want shump and channing frye lol

shumpert and frye alone don't get to Melo's salary either.

It would have to be Shumpert, Frye, and Richard Jefferson...to match melo's contract. And the only way I'm accepting that is if two future unprotected picks are coming back.

That would still free up Love to move in the possible PG13 deal.

The best thing for us is if PG13 gets traded to BOS (then CLE is forced to do something with Love) because they can't bring back the same team and they have no way to improve without trading him. Or if Melo relents and says WAS is close enough to home with Wall and Beal and we can get some assets from them.

If he wants a buyout he has to give that player option. Sounds like Phil is playing hardball and melo may have to think about his options...

[Rotten Apple]

This will end in a buy out.

[Capn'O]

Dont know if this was posted but Melo aint just walking away from the Knicks and NYC.

Carmelo Anthony pitching political reality show

One reason Carmelo Anthony wants to stay in New York with the Knicks is that he’s been pitching a reality show about his work as a political activist.

It would be a weekly half-hour show of Anthony discussing issues with other civic-minded celebrities and going to meetings and rallies.

Anthony, an outspoken supporter of Black Lives Matter issues, hosted a town hall meeting on police brutality in South Los Angeles last July.

The perennial All-Star has a no-trade contract with the Knicks and seems intent on staying, even though Knicks president Phil Jackson has said he’d “be better off somewhere else” and “We’ve not been able to win with him on the court.”

It is doubtful Anthony could shoot a reality TV series about his political activism if he played in a smaller market such as Cleveland (where trade rumors have popped up).

Sources said Anthony pitched the show to HBO and other cable networks.

One cable exec told me, “We take dozens of meetings every year from folks with programming ideas. I cannot say if it’s moving forward or say it’s stalled. We had a meeting. Nothing else.”

The new show would be a far cry from his earlier foray into reality TV, his wife’s “La La’s Full Court Life,” which ran for five seasons on VH1.

Melo and wife La La separated in April after it was reported that the NBA star got another woman pregnant. But neither party has filed for divorce.

http://pagesix.com/2017/06/27/carmelo-anthony-pitching-political-reality-show/

It's a nice thought. Maybe Anthony has the gravitas to sway the execs. He does have the persona to present his views in a digestable format but I would be wary of producers' narratives they might try to apply.

[Esq-4]

Berman: Knicks balk at Carmelo Anthony power play to force way to Cavs.

No way should we let this guy go to the Cavs for nothing. He had the Knicks trade every last asset to force his way to NY and now he is lobbying to preserve the Cavs talent. GTFO.

of he wants the buyout he gives up the ALL the player option $$$. If he wants the cavs and the cavs have nothing for us...he needs to waive the extra $$$. It's that simple.

I agree. IF it's a buy out the 18-19 money is not even part of the discussion. If I'm the Knicks, you ask for a dollar more than this year's salary I get up and walk away from the table

[mpharris36]

hey Melo the political capital of the world is WAS!!! bring us back Oubre and a future pick please. I would even take Mahinmi suck ass contract back depending on how many assets i got.

Or work out some S&T with Otto Porter.

[mpharris36]

This will end in a buy out.

it probably our strong play to make the 2018-19 $$$ off the books. We walk away from the buyout as long as he declines his player option $$$

[whocares1]

they have no depth to give up. i saw their bench in the finals. you want shump and channing frye lol

shumpert and frye alone don't get to Melo's salary either.

It would have to be Shumpert, Frye, and Richard Jefferson...to match melo's contract. And the only way I'm accepting that is if two future unprotected picks are coming back.

That would still free up Love to move in the possible PG13 deal.

The best thing for us is if PG13 gets traded to BOS (then CLE is forced to do something with Love) because they can't bring back the same team and they have no way to improve without trading him. Or if Melo relents and says WAS is close enough to home with Wall and Beal and we can get some assets from them.

If he wants a buyout he has to give that player option. Sounds like Phil is playing hardball and melo may have to think about his options...

Absolutely. If George gets traded to Boston then the Cavs will be forced to make a move. Let's not forget the Clippers who are trying to convince Chris Paul to come back to a team that's failed multiple times, while Blake tests free agency. Phil just has to sit and wait for someone to make a move.