official Melo trade speculation - thread 2

[Rotten Apple]

they have no depth to give up. i saw their bench in the finals. you want shump and channing frye lol

shumpert and frye alone don't get to Melo's salary either.

It would have to be Shumpert, Frye, and Richard Jefferson...to match melo's contract. And the only way I'm accepting that is if two future unprotected picks are coming back.

That would still free up Love to move in the possible PG13 deal.

The best thing for us is if PG13 gets traded to BOS (then CLE is forced to do something with Love) because they can't bring back the same team and they have no way to improve without trading him. Or if Melo relents and says WAS is close enough to home with Wall and Beal and we can get some assets from them.

If he wants a buyout he has to give that player option. Sounds like Phil is playing hardball and melo may have to think about his options...

You know damn well he doesn't have to give up that player option.

Phil "wants" him gone not the other way around.

I say he leaves 5 mil on the table and signs for the MLE in Cleveland

[Crunchknicks1]

Man give me on every young player is all I ask. One young player for Melo I need some return on Melo. I can't just release him for nothing. If we waive him and have an extra 15.1 million I need a star to come period. Or here is a idea waive him and stretch him we would have 30 million in cap room. Use that to accept a trade from say Portland and get Mo hackless crabe and get one of there new pics or young players or a furture first next year ? That may be a win win for everyone. Or Houston wants to cut salary as well maybe take a couple of those players. Or spurs get Murray and Lamarcus and Simmons in a sign in trade. See what I'm saying use money to take on salarys to get young players from other teams by cutting Melo. Sounds like the best way to go

[Battery]

Dont know if this was posted but Melo aint just walking away from the Knicks and NYC.

Carmelo Anthony pitching political reality show

One reason Carmelo Anthony wants to stay in New York with the Knicks is that he’s been pitching a reality show about his work as a political activist.

It would be a weekly half-hour show of Anthony discussing issues with other civic-minded celebrities and going to meetings and rallies.

Anthony, an outspoken supporter of Black Lives Matter issues, hosted a town hall meeting on police brutality in South Los Angeles last July.

The perennial All-Star has a no-trade contract with the Knicks and seems intent on staying, even though Knicks president Phil Jackson has said he’d “be better off somewhere else” and “We’ve not been able to win with him on the court.”

It is doubtful Anthony could shoot a reality TV series about his political activism if he played in a smaller market such as Cleveland (where trade rumors have popped up).

Sources said Anthony pitched the show to HBO and other cable networks.

One cable exec told me, “We take dozens of meetings every year from folks with programming ideas. I cannot say if it’s moving forward or say it’s stalled. We had a meeting. Nothing else.”

The new show would be a far cry from his earlier foray into reality TV, his wife’s “La La’s Full Court Life,” which ran for five seasons on VH1.

Melo and wife La La separated in April after it was reported that the NBA star got another woman pregnant. But neither party has filed for divorce.

http://pagesix.com/2017/06/27/carmelo-anthony-pitching-political-reality-show/

If he wants to be a political activist he should go to Chicago and help clean up that mess of a city. Shame too, because Chicago is a beautiful city in the spring and summer.

[NYF13]

Dont know if this was posted but Melo aint just walking away from the Knicks and NYC.

Carmelo Anthony pitching political reality show

One reason Carmelo Anthony wants to stay in New York with the Knicks is that he’s been pitching a reality show about his work as a political activist.

It would be a weekly half-hour show of Anthony discussing issues with other civic-minded celebrities and going to meetings and rallies.

Anthony, an outspoken supporter of Black Lives Matter issues, hosted a town hall meeting on police brutality in South Los Angeles last July.

The perennial All-Star has a no-trade contract with the Knicks and seems intent on staying, even though Knicks president Phil Jackson has said he’d “be better off somewhere else” and “We’ve not been able to win with him on the court.”

It is doubtful Anthony could shoot a reality TV series about his political activism if he played in a smaller market such as Cleveland (where trade rumors have popped up).

Sources said Anthony pitched the show to HBO and other cable networks.

One cable exec told me, “We take dozens of meetings every year from folks with programming ideas. I cannot say if it’s moving forward or say it’s stalled. We had a meeting. Nothing else.”

The new show would be a far cry from his earlier foray into reality TV, his wife’s “La La’s Full Court Life,” which ran for five seasons on VH1.

Melo and wife La La separated in April after it was reported that the NBA star got another woman pregnant. But neither party has filed for divorce.

http://pagesix.com/2017/06/27/carmelo-anthony-pitching-political-reality-show/

Then ship him to Brooklyn. He would enjoy spending time with Lin and Deangelo Russell.

[mpharris36]

they have no depth to give up. i saw their bench in the finals. you want shump and channing frye lol

shumpert and frye alone don't get to Melo's salary either.

It would have to be Shumpert, Frye, and Richard Jefferson...to match melo's contract. And the only way I'm accepting that is if two future unprotected picks are coming back.

That would still free up Love to move in the possible PG13 deal.

The best thing for us is if PG13 gets traded to BOS (then CLE is forced to do something with Love) because they can't bring back the same team and they have no way to improve without trading him. Or if Melo relents and says WAS is close enough to home with Wall and Beal and we can get some assets from them.

If he wants a buyout he has to give that player option. Sounds like Phil is playing hardball and melo may have to think about his options...

You know damn well he doesn't have to give up that player option.

Phil "wants" him gone not the other way around.

I say he leaves 5 mil on the table and signs for the MLE in Cleveland

him going to the knicks about a buyout does suggest he is considering other options. Phil can threaten benching or limited minutes. And that might be something Melo is worried about. Remember phil doesn't give a damn about his public perception and the owner just gave him 2 more year locked in. So there is incentive for Melo to leave the option on the table if he wants the cavs. Or he has to open up his teams to go to.

[god shammgod]

This will end in a buy out.

either that or he stays and plays. it would seem unlikely and be uncomfortable for all but when has that stopped us. but no trade is happening.

[Crunchknicks1]

Waive him use extra cap room get young players. Just end this already.

[god shammgod]

all this limiting minutes stuff, they could have limited his minutes this year and they had him playing damn near 40 most of the time.

[HarthorneWingo]

Just throwing this out there ... I am not sure but could Melo Restructure his Contract to make him a more tradable ? What if he keeps his contract and extends the years. Kind of what they wanted us to do with the Salary cap hit. Would he be willing to do that to be moved out of NY ? Is that even possible?

NBAPA would never let that happen.

[mpharris36]

all this limiting minutes stuff, they could have limited his minutes this year and they had him playing damn near 40 most of the time.

well we did limit his minutes at the end of last year. I'm not saying it actually happens but if Melo thinks Phil's crazy enough to push him out...maybe he takes that threat seriously.

We obviously played more like a team later in the year. Much better basketball.

[mpharris36]

Waive him use extra cap room get young players. Just end this already.

thats not how it works. you don't waive a player and get cap space...

[BowlRips]

Buyout should only be on the table if he's willing to forgo his player option. Then we'd only be on hook for 30mil this year and he's an expiring deal.

[Battery]

Waive him use extra cap room get young players. Just end this already.

No need to waive him now. Let him sit and stew then as training camp begins and he sees his new locker next to the toilet, he will come to the Knicks and offer them a much better buyout.

[HarthorneWingo]

Buyout should only be on the table if he's willing to forgo his player option. Then we'd only be on hook for 30mil this year and he's an expiring deal.

Again, I could be wrong, but I thought that the players' association put a lot of pressure on players not give back on favorable contract provisions.

[dakomish23]

Walsh didn't

How soon they forget.

I'll never forget this either:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/new-york-knicks-gm-donnie-walsh-miffed-staff-passing-brandon-jennings-draft-article-1.433065

In a recent interview with SI.com, Walsh hinted that ownership wouldn't allow him to revamp the front office.

"I could have hired some amazing people," Walsh told SI.com. "But there are some things you can't ask the owner to do, and that's eat some of these (front-office and scouting department) numbers."

The original SI article is off the net but the quote remains in the NYDN article. Walsh always had oversight from Dolan and his cronies and a lot of these same guys are here, doing the legwork of the GM position. Dolan wants to keep his people and his ways. The next guy coming in after Phil will have to deal with the same **** and it will show in the approach and, in turn, the product.

Walsh was allowed to briefly recoup picks and rebuild because he sold Dolan on holding out for LeBron. We then were forced to cash in ALL of the fruits of that process for Melo when it didn't work out. I don't want to see that **** happen again. Give me Hinkie or Mike Zarren or someone of that ilk... or keep Phil.

He was able to keep Dolan away for a period of time.

Someone else could do it too.

Folks are acting Iike the moment PJax leaves Dolan is going to force the next guy to trade 5 1st round picks.

The idea that it's ok for PJax to be bad at his job because it may lead to something worse if he's not here is not ok.

[HarthorneWingo]

Waive him use extra cap room get young players. Just end this already.

No need to waive him now. Let him sit and stew then as training camp begins and he sees his new locker next to the toilet, he will come to the Knicks and offer them a much better buyout.

Exactly. Why a player would want to stay on a team that doesn't want him is beyond me.

Dr. Mr. Melo:

RE: Failure to Waive NTC

Didn't your agent, douche bag Leon Rose, tell you? Along with the $128 million contract, the trade kicker AND the full NTC, comes our "Deluxe GTFO Package." That's just in case you become obstinate in waiving your NTC in the face of overwhelming evidence that this relationship is no longer beneficial to either party. The "Deluxe GTFO Package" allows the Knicks to place your locker in the janitor's cleaning room, exclude your photo from all Knicks programs, yearbooks and other promotional materials, photos and videos; permit the team to stop promoting you completely; and waives your right to file any and all player grievances under the existing CBA with respect to playing time, if any, the team's coach (whoever it may be at the time) chooses to play you and/or any other matter potentially covered under the CBA.

Very Truly Yours,

Harthorne Wingo, Esquire
Team Counsel

[N Y K]

melo will be in uniform next year, playing normal minutes, and we will all be here doing this too

[dakomish23]

all this limiting minutes stuff, they could have limited his minutes this year and they had him playing damn near 40 most of the time.

well we did limit his minutes at the end of last year. I'm not saying it actually happens but if Melo thinks Phil's crazy enough to push him out...maybe he takes that threat seriously.

We obviously played more like a team later in the year. Much better basketball.

I'd love to see the proof of that. Not body language doctor proof but actual proof

[Rotten Apple]

This will end in a buy out.

either that or he stays and plays. it would seem unlikely and be uncomfortable for all but when has that stopped us. but no trade is happening.

He's pulling Phil's card.

You can't bench Melo because that's just once again ruining future relationships with other players.

You want him gone buy him out if not shut up and let him play.

Phil painted himself into a corner here.

[Rotten Apple]

NBPA would not allow Melo to forgo his option year.