2017 Hawks Offseason Thread

[dms269]

Wolves fan here

Is a sign/trade with Milsap for Gorgui Dieng (4/$64 mil contract) and Shabazz Muhammad (RFA) something any ATL fan would have interest in?

Not sure if those are interesting players or would rather have flexibility if Milsap walks

No, I would rather look at LMA or Kevin Love first before going to MINN. But if Spurs and Cavs don't work out, and the Hawks go to the Wolves, then Justine Patton would have to be apart of the deal

That's fair

But it's possible the Wolves can get to cap space position to sign Milsap outright, so not sure how much leverage ATL would have

I just wasn't sure if ATL fans had any interest in Dieng and Bazz as players or would prefer the unknown of FA

What would ATL's cap situation be without Milsap's cap hold?

I can't see Atlanta, who just traded a bad deal, be willing to take on a long;term deal in Dieng plus possibly Bazz. Minny would need to have around 30M in cap this offseason to bring in Millsap.

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[Jamaaliver]

^I've had my eye on Gorgui Dieng for years now. But that was due to his ability to help a competitive, veteran team.

He has good skills and a fair contract, but he (nor Shabazz) make much sense based on the new direction we're headed.

NOTE: Dieng would make good trade bait down the line, so...maybe.

[MN7725]

^I've had my eye on Gorgui Dieng for years now. But that was due to his ability to help a competitive, veteran team.

He has good skills and a fair contract, but he (nor Shabazz) make much sense based on the new direction we're headed.

NOTE: Dieng would make good trade bait down the line, so...maybe.

That's what I wasn't sure about
If Milsap is leaving

Do Dieng as a low end starter that is paid like one (4 yr $64 mil) and say 4 yr $32 mil for a 24 yr RFA like Bazz as an upside player make any sense

Might be better than what they could do in FA, just not sure

[Jamaaliver]

That's what I wasn't sure about
If Milsap is leaving

Do Dieng as a low end starter that is paid like one (4 yr $64 mil) and say 4 yr $32 mil for a 24 yr RFA like Bazz as an upside player make any sense

Might be better than what they could do in FA, just not sure

For the caliber of players, yes. This is likely the best Atlanta could hope to get for a SnT of a 32 year old 2nd tier player.

These players in particular...meh. Hawks Front office might value the $24 million per year in cap space more than they value these particular players. (I personally want nothing to do with Shabazz.)

NOTE: I do really hope you guys get Millsap and shake up the status quo in the West. You have the talent to challenge GSW. A lineup of KAT, Millsap, Wiggins and J Butler would be one of the best in recent history. Wish you guys all the best!

[MN7725]

That's what I wasn't sure about
If Milsap is leaving

Do Dieng as a low end starter that is paid like one (4 yr $64 mil) and say 4 yr $32 mil for a 24 yr RFA like Bazz as an upside player make any sense

Might be better than what they could do in FA, just not sure

For the caliber of players, yes this is best Hawks could hope to get for a SnT of a 32 year old 2nd tier player.

These players in particular...meh. Hawks Front office might value the $24 million per year in cap space more than they value these particular players.

yeah, depends how competitive they want to be
Could decide to go the Hinkie take on bad salary for future picks route even

[MaceCase]

Wolves fan here

Is a sign/trade with Milsap for Gorgui Dieng (4/$64 mil contract) and Shabazz Muhammad (RFA) something any ATL fan would have interest in?

Not sure if those are interesting players or would rather have flexibility if Milsap walks

Double sign and trades are huuuuuuuge nono's and the current GM has indicated he values flexibility so I doubt he'd be interested in committing that number of years and money into the same position. He would have held onto Dwight for that.

[Geaux_Hawks]

In a S&T, I would take a flier on Shabazz Muhammad though. Something like him and Patton would be a good swap.

[Jamaaliver]

Read on Twitter

The Hawks will have a much better understanding in the next several weeks of what the roster will look like for the 2017-18 season. The Hawks will be busy with a current roster that includes just one power forward in Ryan Kelly and one center in Miles Plumlee. If Millsap is not re-signed, there will be much work to do if the Hawks want to remain relevant while retooling the franchise.

• The Paul Millsap Situation hangs over the organization but will likely be resolved by the weekend.
• The Hawks will also have decisions to make on their other unrestricted free agents: Ersan Ilyasova, Kris Humphries, Thabo Sefolosha, Mike Muscala and Jose Calderon
• Taurean Prince, DeAndre Bembry, Isaia Cordinier, John Collins, Tyler Dorsey and Alpha Kaba will all participate in the Las Vegas Summer League
• The Hawks could be looking to invite players from the Las Vegas league to training camp with several positions opening, including a third point guard.

[Jamaaliver]

Ummm...

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Nothing Easy!!!!

[jayu70]

Ummm...

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Nothing Easy!!!!

I will always welcome Z=Pac to the Hawks. Nozing Easy

[Jamaaliver]

The Brooklyn Nets have declined their team option on K.J. McDaniels, who will become an unrestricted free agent.

McDaniels could have made $3.48 million in 17-18 with the Nets.

McDaniels was traded to the Nets by the Houston Rockets at the deadline. McDaniels helped move the Nets towards the salary cap floor.Via Shams Charania/The Vertical

Real GM


I see a new prospect for Hawks University...

[tbhawksfan1]

+1 for pic. Hawks classic

[Radioblacktive1]

•On The Vertical’s live show, Wojnarowski identified the Hawks as a team to watch on the trade market, suggesting that new GM Travis Schlenk may be looking to cut costs as he retools the roster. Kent Bazemore could be a trade candidate in Atlanta, per Wojnarowski.

We can be so lucky that Baze is moved.

Agreed. Schlenk deserves Exec of the year if he can break up both bad contracts from last summer.

Even Plumlee I don't see as an issue long term, considering he's been traded twice (or is it three times) in the last year.

We'll have $40+ million in cap space if we let Millsap and THJ walk. Trav can start rebuilding this team in his image immediately.

(If we'd embraced the tank at the trade deadline -- moving Thabo and Millsap -- we could be looking at a lottery pick plus tons of cap space. Greatly speeding up the rebuild most of us knew was coming.)

Nvm

FAs just plainly not wanting to sign with Atlanta is one of the most painful things about being a Hawks fan.

[Jamaaliver]

Read on Twitter

Atlanta Hawks Free Agency Targets

Atlanta suffers from the same deficiencies as the rest of the league when matched up against the Warriors and Cavaliers — whether its athleticism, length or firepower.

[N]ew GM Travis Schlenk’s immediate responsibility is to jump-start the retooling phase the organization has tried avoiding over the last two years. Now with the possibility of losing two cornerstone players in Al Horford and Paul Millsap to free agency consecutively, they will need to address the following areas in order to have the slightest chance at continuing their 10 straight playoff appearance streak.

SF/PF James Johnson

James Johnson will garner much attention this off-season coming off a career high in points, rebounds and assist. He’s strong, athletic and can get his own if need be. Too strong for small forwards — too quick for power forward’s — too much for both at times. Atlanta has targeted size and versatility in the past two drafts — obviously highlighting a need. Johnson meets those qualifications and starting to trend upwards heading into his 9th year at age 30.

I like Eric Yeboah from his work over at Hawkshoop. But this is not a strong article.

[Andre Roberstan]

I like Eric Yeboah from his work over at Hawkshoop. But this is not a strong article.

Came over here while looking for Enes Kanter targets and happened to see your post. That one looks like it might have not even gotten edited. Yeesh. Not sure who was on deck for that.

I went through and at least took out the typos, so it's at least a little better now.

You're not a fan of those guys in FA? Just curious who you'd be interested in.

[Jamaaliver]

You're not a fan of those guys in FA? Just curious who you'd be interested in.

Eric?


Hawks shouldn't be trying to build with high-priced Free Agents anymore. But I would pursue a few minor free agents such as:

Ramon Sessions, PG, Team Option

KJ McDaniels, SG/SF, Unrestricted

Shelvin Mack, PG, Unrestricted

Omri Casspi, SF, Unrestricted

Donatas Motiejunas, PF/C, Unrestricted

James Johnson, SF/PF, Unrestricted

Bojan Bogdanovic, SG, Restricted

I'd invest in low cost, heady vets to fill in the gaps until our young'ns are ready to take a larger role. Even if it means we struggle through a couple of years of rebuilding.


NOTE: I do really like Gallinari. But it makes little sense to break the bank for a 2nd tier FA who clearly can't carry a team to the playoffs alone...let alone contention.

[Andre Roberstan]

You're not a fan of those guys in FA? Just curious who you'd be interested in.

Eric?


Ummm....Hawks shouldn't be trying to build through Free Agency anymore. I'd pursue a few minor free agents such as:

Ramon Sessions, PG, Team Option

KJ McDaniels, SG/SF, Team Option

Shelvin Mack, PG, Unrestricted

Omri Casspi, SF, Unrestricted

Donatas Motiejunas, PF/C, Unrestricted

James Johnson, SF/PF, Unrestricted

Bojan Bogdanovic, SG, Restricted

I'd invest in low cost, heady vets to fill in the gaps until the young'ns are ready to take a larger role. Even if it means we struggle through a couple of years of rebuilding.


NOTE: I do really like Gallinari. But it makes little sense to break the bank for a 2nd tier FA who clearly can't carry a team to the playoffs alone...let alone contention.

Nah, I'm David. One of the site editors.

We're running a big free agency push coming into the moratorium, so every team's going over who they could pick up that would help in FA.

I lowkey think Gallo doesn't get paid as much as people think just due to his injury history.

Those are some good names, too, BTW.

[Jamaaliver]

I'm David. One of the site editors.

We're running a big free agency push coming into the moratorium, so every team's going over who they could pick up that would help in FA.

Cool.

I do like your site and appreciate the frequency of content you guys put out.

Your site design is fantastic, very aesthetically pleasing.

And this graphic, one of my favorites, is now my screen saver.

Because it's fantastic.

[Andre Roberstan]

I'm David. One of the site editors.

We're running a big free agency push coming into the moratorium, so every team's going over who they could pick up that would help in FA.

Cool.

I do like your site and appreciate the frequency of content you guys put out.

Your site design is fantastic, very aesthetically pleasing.

And this graphic, one of my favorites, is now my screen saver.

Because it's fantastic.

Awesome! Appreciate it. I'll pass that on to the team.

And you'll have to thank Adam Joseph for that one. He does all the artwork.

[Geaux_Hawks]

I would take Evans at the right price. It's guys like him who just needs to find the right home to be the player they can be.