Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston

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Re: Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston 

Post#481 » by xfactor » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:42 pm

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Nice trade for the Clips. That's a damn haul


Nice is an understatement. Damn, Jerry.

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Re: Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston 

Post#482 » by OkcSinceSGA » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:43 pm

Rockets fans can you give me intel on the players we got? Lou like Jamal seems streaky but a complete no show in playoffs. Dekker shows flashes of ability and athleticism but is unproven? Beverley is good but injury prone? Harrell is really good in limited minutes? Is this about right?
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Re: Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston 

Post#483 » by NickAnderson » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:43 pm

bulliedog8 wrote:I would love to see the old ass banana boat crew get together.

CP0
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That team would get ran out of the gym and I wouldnt see them making the finals next year. Would be a conference finals team at best, but most likely a 1st or 2nd round team only.


Is this a joke?


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Re: Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston 

Post#484 » by John Murdoch » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:44 pm

xfactor wrote:Mr. West has spoken. He's not wasting time.


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What makes u think this is his doing? Consultant/Adviser is really just a moniker they give a respected player around the league that still needs a check. Untill Doc gets the boot ill assume this is him
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Re: Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston 

Post#485 » by Pointgod » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:44 pm

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Teams take note. If you have a star that's leaving bury your pride and trade him for assets(I'm looking at you Indina). Clippers made out very well with this trade and could still compete for the playoffs barring injuries.
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Re: Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston 

Post#486 » by Asif16 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:45 pm

sterfry94 wrote:Would need to involve a 3rd team that's high on Anderson somehow. That 3rd team also probably needs some youth and a pick going to Indy.

Something like:

PG to Houston
Anderson to 3rd team
Future HOU pick to Indy, Future 3rd team pick to Indy, young player to Indy


Anderson to raptors? Would make sense
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Re: Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston 

Post#487 » by OkcSinceSGA » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:45 pm

Intel from Michael Eaves, ex Clippers beat.

Here's some information on the Chris Paul trade. First the MICRO:
Paul's relationship with Doc Rivers started to deteriorate rapidly after the Clippers acquired Austin Rivers. Several members of the team felt Austin acted entitled because his dad was both the coach and the President of Basketball Operations. In the view of the tenured players, Austin Rivers never tried to fit in, and when players tried to address the situation with him, he still did not respond the way the core of the team wanted him to. It led to resentment within the locker room, which often played out during games. One of Paul's biggest contentions with Doc was that Paul, and other players, felt Doc treated Austin more favorably than other players. He would yell at guys for certain things during games and practices, but not get on Austin in the same manner for similar transgressions.

But what really solidified Paul's dissatisfaction with Doc was a proposed trade involving Carmelo Anthony last season. New York offered Carmelo and Sasha Vujacic to the Clippers in exchange for Jamal Crawford, Paul Pierce and Austin Rivers, a deal to which Rivers ultimately said no. That event led Paul to feel that keeping his son on the roster was more important to Doc than improving the team. So, ultimately, Paul lost both trust and faith in Doc. As one league executive put it, "Chris despises Doc."
(I was also told that when Paul met with the team to inform them of his plans, Jerry West was not in attendance. It was only Doc and Lawrence Frank.)
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This move is a win-win for Chris Paul, and it was all part of a master plan. By opting into the final year of his current contract and pressuring the Clippers to trade him to Houston, Paul will be in the exact same situation next summer. He can re-sign with the Rockets for 5 years and $200+ million or sign a 4-year deal for about $150 million with another team. In addition, he will save several million dollars in state income tax.

Also, by being committed to the Rockets for only one season, it gives him a year to see if he can actually co-exist and pursue a title with James Harden. But even beyond that, this move gives Paul more flexibility to join LeBron James in 2018. If he stayed in LA or signed the max deal with the Clippers and forced them to do a sign-and-trade with the Rockets, Paul and LeBron could only join forces at one location. Now, they will have the ability to pick and choose wherever they want to go as a tandem, which could be Houston, LA {Lakers or Clippers (provided Doc is no longer with organization)}, or any other destination in-between.
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Re: Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston 

Post#488 » by MaxRider » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:46 pm

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:Rockets fans can you give me intel on the players we got? Lou like Jamal seems streaky but a complete no show in playoffs. Dekker shows flashes of ability and athleticism but is unproven? Beverley is good but injury prone? Harrell is really good in limited minutes? Is this about right?


Beverley always play hard which often hurting himself
Dekker shows flashes but need time to develop, he is smart player
Harrell is nice, improves his shooting, good hassle player
Lou Williams is just like Crawford
the rest just non-guaranteed contracts Morey just got to make this trade work
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Re: Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston 

Post#489 » by akhan786 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:46 pm

How hilarious would it be if the banana boat crew instead all chose Miami next year. Could they fit CP3/Wade/Melo/Bron/Whiteside?
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Re: Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston 

Post#490 » by OkcSinceSGA » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:46 pm

Doc basically refused to trade Jamal+his SON for Melo last year. Which pissed CP3 off.
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Re: Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston 

Post#491 » by xfactor » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:47 pm

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xfactor wrote:Mr. West has spoken. He's not wasting time.


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What makes u think this is his doing? Consultant/Adviser is really just a moniker they give a respected player around the league that still needs a check. Untill Doc gets the boot ill assume this is him


At the very least, the idea was run past him, and he'd give it a thumbs up or down, and advice. That's the reason he's there.
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Re: Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston 

Post#492 » by Alienware » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:47 pm

Read on Twitter


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Re: Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston 

Post#493 » by OkcSinceSGA » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:48 pm

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ClipsFanSince98 wrote:Rockets fans can you give me intel on the players we got? Lou like Jamal seems streaky but a complete no show in playoffs. Dekker shows flashes of ability and athleticism but is unproven? Beverley is good but injury prone? Harrell is really good in limited minutes? Is this about right?


Beverley always play hard which often hurting himself
Dekker shows flashes but need time to develop, he is smart player
Harrell is nice, improves his shooting, good hassle player
Lou Williams is just like Crawford
the rest just non-guaranteed contracts Morey just got to make this trade work


As a Rockets fan do you feel the Clippers got a half way decent haul considering the prospect that CP3 could of just walked and let you guys dump cap on a team like the Sixers to clear room? Thanks for info BTW.
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Re: Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston 

Post#494 » by MartinToVaught » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:49 pm

John Murdoch wrote:
xfactor wrote:Mr. West has spoken. He's not wasting time.


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What makes u think this is his doing? Consultant/Adviser is really just a moniker they give a respected player around the league that still needs a check. Untill Doc gets the boot ill assume this is him

West is a "consultant" on paper, but I think the GM-level money that Ballmer's paying him is more telling of what his actual role is. If Doc still had all the power, we'd have gotten fleeced in this trade.
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Re: Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston 

Post#495 » by MartinToVaught » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:51 pm

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:Doc basically refused to trade Jamal+his SON for Melo last year. Which pissed CP3 off.

I don't buy that Doc is the reason CP3 left. He could have told Ballmer to fire Doc and Ballmer would have done it. CP3 was the one who demanded Doc in the first place, and I remember a report from earlier this season that he was still more loyal to Doc than to any of his teammates.
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Re: Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston 

Post#496 » by Ckay » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:51 pm

See, all part of the plan!
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Re: Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston 

Post#497 » by red96 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:51 pm

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:Rockets fans can you give me intel on the players we got? Lou like Jamal seems streaky but a complete no show in playoffs. Dekker shows flashes of ability and athleticism but is unproven? Beverley is good but injury prone? Harrell is really good in limited minutes? Is this about right?
Pretty spot on. Clippers got a damn good haul,especially from a GM like Morey.
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Re: Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston 

Post#498 » by BeatDaCavs420 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:53 pm

Wow the Clippers won this trade by a mile...Lets be real if CP3 stayed they're not beating the Warriors anyway. Won't even beat the Spurs or Houston...Sooo not only did they save not paying CP3 big money to be a treadmill team but they also got a great haul for him in return

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Re: Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston 

Post#499 » by Bolts » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:53 pm

Two of the biggest floppers on the same team. I am going to enjoy hating Houston even more next year.
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Re: Chris Paul Opts In; Then Traded To Houston 

Post#500 » by Ymountain » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:53 pm

Excited to see how Paul and Harden can co-exist. They'll have one season to see if it works and if not, Rockets didn't give up much anyway. It will be fun to see what moves Morey makes next.

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