ATL - PG13 to Thunder

[Frank Nova]

Kings still gonna King. McLemore wasn't nearly bad enough last year to not at least be worth the QO. I'd scoop him up as a cheap Snell replacement in a heart beat.

I could see Sacto being a team ready to throw a big deal at Snell and push us into a corner with a decision on him. If the deal is outrageously large then I'd love B Mac as a cheap replacement on a "prove it" type 1-2yr deal.

Fox-Buddy-Snell makes sense in Sacramento..

[Treebeard]

Can't make this stuff up

James Dolan has known to be fond of Ujiri for several years.

Ujiri negotiated against the Knicks on the Carmelo Anthony trade while with the Nuggets and again on the Andrea Bargnani trade. The Knicks also discussed a Kyle Lowry trade but Dolan backed out due to concerns about negotiating with Ujiri again.

Takes a humble man to admit when he is beaten and submit to their will.

I think that may be the first time Dolan has been called humble

[Ron Swanson]

I'd rather be the team that takes fliers on incredibly talented guys like McLemore when their value is at their lowest, as opposed to just automatically labeling every guy who doesn't look good his first 3-4 years in the league a terrible basketball player. That's kinda the whole point why he'd even be available.

[M-C-G]

Now the Melo to the Rockets rumors are ramping up.

I can't be alone, doesn't anyone else think that Melo looked like a 40 year old at the YMCA in dire need of a backiotomy?

Yeah but I felt the biggest thing with him last year was lack of motivation. Seemed disinterested at times, and I guess rightfully so with all that surrounded him. I still think he can get you 20 a night. Maybe a new environment would do wonders for the latter stage of his career.

Maybe, but he is 33 and owed 50M over the next two years. Even if it is 50/50 if age is catching up or it was lack of motivation, can you really risk being wrong at that price?

I'd give them Henson/Mirza but they wouldn't be taking that deal.

[Ron Swanson]

Melo would be a hell of a 3rd option beside Harden/Paul. The problem is that New York fans wanted him to be "the guy" and he's just not a good #1 on offense at this stage of his career.

[M-C-G]

I'd rather be the team that takes fliers on incredibly talented guys like McLemore when their value is at their lowest, as opposed to just automatically labeling every guy who doesn't look good his first 3-4 years in the league a terrible basketball player. That's kinda the whole point why he'd even be available.

Seems like a decent candidate to improve with a fresh start somewhere else. You have to wonder if he is one of the 10 cent head guys though.

[Rockmaninoff]

Melo seems like he's falling apart at a young age, ala Big Dog.

Regarding Chris Paul, were we not interested? Kidd supposedly has cache with guys from that generation. If he's not contributing to getting guys like Paul, what good is he?

[Wiscfan92]

Melo seems like he's falling apart at a young age, ala Big Dog.

Regarding Chris Paul, were we not interested? Kidd supposedly has cache with guys from that generation. If he's not contributing to getting guys like Paul, what good is he?

I think it's more about the lack of assets we had to offer. I know they didn't get a ton from HOU, but it's prolly better than what we would have offered.

[Gianstoppable]

Melo seems like he's falling apart at a young age, ala Big Dog.

Regarding Chris Paul, were we not interested? Kidd supposedly has cache with guys from that generation. If he's not contributing to getting guys like Paul, what good is he?

Have you seen our payroll? We would have to clear Mirza, Henson and Hawes first. Obviously we all would love that but apparently we cant sign top guys we just overpay for below average players

[lvckv]

He's ten years older than our core. Maybe we'll trade for someone when Giannis, Jabari, Thon, Brogdon, Middleton are ready to challenge for something real instead of trying to be the 3rd/4th best team in the East while half our roster is still developing.

[emunney]

He's ten years older than our core. Maybe we'll trade for someone when Giannis, Jabari, Thon, Brogdon, Middleton are ready to challenge for something real instead of trying to be the 3rd/4th best team in the East while half our roster is still developing.

But we're already doing that, we're just doing it badly.

[midranger]

I'd rather be the team that takes fliers on incredibly talented guys like McLemore when their value is at their lowest, as opposed to just automatically labeling every guy who doesn't look good his first 3-4 years in the league a terrible basketball player. That's kinda the whole point why he'd even be available.

Meh, Beas is a good example. After a decade of seasoning on multiple teams in multiple leagues, he finely refined his game enough to be an inconsistently not-terrible bench player. Though, at baseline Beas is much more talented than McLemore.

Better uses for the MLE and our time.

[buckboy]

Melo is done. He's a pretty big negative on that contract for most teams.

[midranger]

I posted in the other thread, but I'll post it here as well.

There is a high possibility that we will have the hands-down best player in the conference starting 2018 (Lebron leaves, Embiid stagnates or remains injured). Like no close second type guy.

If I'm the Bucks, I'm preparing for contention 2018, not 3-4 years from now. Get that #2 guy now if you can.

[Bucksfan28]

I tried to stay on the McLemore bandwagon for as long as possible but he's just not that good of a player, certainly not one I'd label "incredibly talented".

Worthy of an NBA roster spot? Yes. Someone I'd count on for consistent rotation minutes on a contending team? Eh.

[Fotis St]

I'd rather be the team that takes fliers on incredibly talented guys like McLemore when their value is at their lowest, as opposed to just automatically labeling every guy who doesn't look good his first 3-4 years in the league a terrible basketball player. That's kinda the whole point why he'd even be available.

Meh, Beas is a good example. After a decade of seasoning on multiple teams in multiple leagues, he finely refined his game enough to be an inconsistently not-terrible bench player. Though, at baseline Beas is much more talented than McLemore.

Better uses for the MLE and our time.

I agree. Beasley is exactly the player who teams should pay the MLE.
For your information MLE is 8.4 and can be used for 2 players (4.1 x 2 or 5.4 + 3)

5.4M to Beasley
3M Ben

Perfect use of the MLE in my opinion and we can let another team to overpay Snell

[Plossum]

So is CP3 a coward for joining a team he couldn't beat in the playoffs too? Or are we only selectively outraged?

[M-C-G]

Melo seems like he's falling apart at a young age, ala Big Dog.

Regarding Chris Paul, were we not interested? Kidd supposedly has cache with guys from that generation. If he's not contributing to getting guys like Paul, what good is he?

I think it's more about the lack of assets we had to offer. I know they didn't get a ton from HOU, but it's prolly better than what we would have offered.

It has nothing to do with the assets guys. The Clippers had ZERO leverage. Paul could either opt out and they lose him for nothing or he could opt in and they could trade him for pennies on the dollar to a team of Paul's choosing.

There were probably two teams he was interested in, SAS and HOU and he picked HOU.

[humanrefutation]

McLemore is the kind of guy who I'd like the Bucks to pursue if he can be brought in for cheap. He's got physical tools, but it's hard to know how much the dysfunction in Sactown contributed to his stagnated growth.

I'd love to see what he can do when he isn't pressured to be one of the guys. If he can be athletic and shoot ~38-40% from three, he's worth a tiny gamble.

[M-C-G]

So is CP3 a coward for joining a team he couldn't beat in the playoffs too? Or are we only selectively outraged?

Certainly the outrage will be selective. People will justify it because he is loading up to try and beat the super power, not join the super power.