Seems like all the leagues superstars need to team up to give GSW's arsenal a run for the title. AAU basketball is really having a terrible influence in the modern world. No longer can "teams" play a sport that was designed to work together to entertain the public. Now it is about to become 3-5 team league that will decimate the rest of the league with multiple elite-level talents while robbing the majority of good competitiveness. Not only do I predict this will lower the interest in the NBA, the revenue will decrease as well.
Can't see how the NBA will come back, make we should just rename it AAUPL (AAU Pro League)
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Texas Chuck wrote:I'd like to see Utah, and Denver lose
Exactly as I've been saying all along !!
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skywalker33 wrote:Seems like all the leagues superstars need to team up to give GSW's arsenal a run for the title. AAU basketball is really having a terrible influence in the modern world. No longer can "teams" play a sport that was designed to work together to entertain the public. Now it is about to become 3-5 team league that will decimate the rest of the league with multiple elite-level talents while robbing the majority of good competitiveness. Not only do I predict this will lower the interest in the NBA, the revenue will decrease as well.
Can't see how the NBA will come back, make we should just rename it AAUPL (AAU Pro League)
Give it time; talented players, even superstar level are appearing more and more often. Without changing the cap and making it more difficult and/or expanding, we just have to wait.
It's been hinted on this board that we could have actually acquired 3 superstars this off-season, if done right. Maybe we could have, we'll never know for certain, and I'm not a big fan of doing it, but if we could have had a lineup of:
Jokic
Millsap or Ibaka
George or Butler or Hayward
Harris
CP3 - Murray
I would have had to stop whining about the young players PT - at least a little bit.
Anyone else beginning to believe we won't sign a single superstar or even top-flight FA?
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It's on KD. There's no point in a superstar letting an organic team be built around him right now. Even just a few years ago you could build a really good team around a Paul George level player and hope the spurs or lakers have an injury or a down year and you could sneak a title.
Now, even if 2x MVP steph curry got hurt, you better have a generational player like lebron or a couple superstars. I don't blame the aging stars like CP3 for trying to team up to have a shot.
Eventually the salary cap will weaken GS like it did to OKC a couple years ago and the level your team has to be to contend will go down.
Now, even if 2x MVP steph curry got hurt, you better have a generational player like lebron or a couple superstars. I don't blame the aging stars like CP3 for trying to team up to have a shot.
Eventually the salary cap will weaken GS like it did to OKC a couple years ago and the level your team has to be to contend will go down.
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You know it is funny if you look at the Warriors I do not think anybody outside of Durant would be what I consider a superstar on any other team, in fact I think Curry is really the only true all star talent that was with the team a year ago. Thompson is good but not great, and Green while being a great defender is only allowed to get away with the crap he does because refs and the league as a whole love his teammates. Yet they are a great team and Durant fits well.
I am sure many on this board remember when we added AI, and for the people who were not here, I was clear from the start of the rumor that I thought it was a terrible fit and that the team would not do as well as analysts and the media were expecting. Funny thing was we dropped Camby for nothing, and traded for Billups, and all the sudden we were a western conference finals team.
The Wizards this year figured out how to quit playing selfish, and suddenly they were a much better team.
The Showtime Lakers, the celtics, the Jordan Bulls, the Thunder with all their talent struggled until they added Perkins, and just about every great team has the same kind of set up. Just as important of talent you have to have a team that fits together well, and enough guys who don' care about their numbers to make the team successful. Our team seems to be full of unselfish players that want to win, I get that vibe from all the young guys we have, and so that is why I am not that worried about it.
When the Warriors suddenly started coming out of nowhere was right after they added Bogut, the Heatles won their championship in their 2 year when they had brought in veteran leadership. Hell this year the Jazz brought in guys like Hill, Joe Johnson, and Diaw, suddenly they went from a 41 win team to a 51 win 2nd round team. The Jazz did it too late, and now their team is in a bad position of being good enough to win but only winning for 1 year and guys are now free agents.
if you try to go to fast you are in danger of ending up like the Melo Nuggets, the Bulls with Butler and before that with Rose, the Pacers with George. You have that 1 or 2 top talents and try to build around them without enough young talent and you are screwed with no cap room and no assets to build your team. If you are the Knicks or Lakers you can get away with that as you can get free agents, small markets have to have a few young players to build it right. The Grizzlies have never had enough depth, and only have limited cap space to add to the team.
One of the things about the analytic crowd is that they miss how teams fit together, having 2 very ball dominant players who like to play isolation I feel is going to struggle. The Twolves I think are going to fast, they do not have enough young guys, and role players, so they have 4 guys who like the ball in their hands, limited defense, and no bench.
Right now we have a young team that fits very well together, has some good talent, and has a lot of depth. We need the right veterans around them to teach them how to work hard and how to win, and then we can worry about adding the right all star talent. Let those guys all pay big money for teams that do not fit together, I just want to change out the veterans for guys who know how to win and want to teach and lead the young guys.
I am sure many on this board remember when we added AI, and for the people who were not here, I was clear from the start of the rumor that I thought it was a terrible fit and that the team would not do as well as analysts and the media were expecting. Funny thing was we dropped Camby for nothing, and traded for Billups, and all the sudden we were a western conference finals team.
The Wizards this year figured out how to quit playing selfish, and suddenly they were a much better team.
The Showtime Lakers, the celtics, the Jordan Bulls, the Thunder with all their talent struggled until they added Perkins, and just about every great team has the same kind of set up. Just as important of talent you have to have a team that fits together well, and enough guys who don' care about their numbers to make the team successful. Our team seems to be full of unselfish players that want to win, I get that vibe from all the young guys we have, and so that is why I am not that worried about it.
When the Warriors suddenly started coming out of nowhere was right after they added Bogut, the Heatles won their championship in their 2 year when they had brought in veteran leadership. Hell this year the Jazz brought in guys like Hill, Joe Johnson, and Diaw, suddenly they went from a 41 win team to a 51 win 2nd round team. The Jazz did it too late, and now their team is in a bad position of being good enough to win but only winning for 1 year and guys are now free agents.
if you try to go to fast you are in danger of ending up like the Melo Nuggets, the Bulls with Butler and before that with Rose, the Pacers with George. You have that 1 or 2 top talents and try to build around them without enough young talent and you are screwed with no cap room and no assets to build your team. If you are the Knicks or Lakers you can get away with that as you can get free agents, small markets have to have a few young players to build it right. The Grizzlies have never had enough depth, and only have limited cap space to add to the team.
One of the things about the analytic crowd is that they miss how teams fit together, having 2 very ball dominant players who like to play isolation I feel is going to struggle. The Twolves I think are going to fast, they do not have enough young guys, and role players, so they have 4 guys who like the ball in their hands, limited defense, and no bench.
Right now we have a young team that fits very well together, has some good talent, and has a lot of depth. We need the right veterans around them to teach them how to work hard and how to win, and then we can worry about adding the right all star talent. Let those guys all pay big money for teams that do not fit together, I just want to change out the veterans for guys who know how to win and want to teach and lead the young guys.
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For what it's worth, this is actually the same thing that has been going on for years now in our local pro league here in the Philippines. 4 to 5 teams are fixtures in the playoffs and 2 of those teams are heavily-stacked with superstars, i mean STACKED. Their second unit can be legit starters for other squads.
This is already the formula if a team wants to be a legit title contender. Having a bunch of good players simply wouldn't suffice, and we've all seen that GK experiment after the Melo trade. The Nugs were like 10-man deep, but without a superstar, they struggled in the playoffs just the same.
As sky mentioned in another thread, i'm just not sure if our current FO does have what it takes to recruit and actually bring superstars in our fold.
This is already the formula if a team wants to be a legit title contender. Having a bunch of good players simply wouldn't suffice, and we've all seen that GK experiment after the Melo trade. The Nugs were like 10-man deep, but without a superstar, they struggled in the playoffs just the same.
As sky mentioned in another thread, i'm just not sure if our current FO does have what it takes to recruit and actually bring superstars in our fold.