ATL - PG13 to Thunder

[FlagsFlyForever]

It's the same thing to a FAR lesser degree. You guys need to stop being willfully dense about the difference between joining a good team and the winningest team of all time.

I know the difference, but it doesn't make a difference to me. It just doesn't upset me. Lebron leaving Cleveland wouldn't even have upset me except for I know tons of people in Cleveland and he absolutely embarrassed the entire city on some self serving national "reveal"

Why doesn't it make a difference to you? In the fallout from both of these player moves, one of these teams is beatable and one is not. As an NBA fan: meh?

The Warriors couldn't beat Cleveland without KD. What were they supposed to do, just sit back and hope that Kyrie and Love get hurt every FInals? The notion that they were unbeatable with KD is only coming out after the season. There were plenty of people who predicted other teams to win the FInals or even the WCF. Interest this season was sky high as evidenced by the Finals ratings being the highest since Jordan's Bulls.

[RRyder823]

I know the difference, but it doesn't make a difference to me. It just doesn't upset me. Lebron leaving Cleveland wouldn't even have upset me except for I know tons of people in Cleveland and he absolutely embarrassed the entire city on some self serving national "reveal"

Why doesn't it make a difference to you? In the fallout from both of these player moves, one of these teams is beatable and one is not. As an NBA fan: meh?

The Warriors couldn't beat Cleveland without KD. What were they supposed to do, just sit back and hope that Kyrie and Love get hurt every FInals? The notion that they were unbeatable with KD is only coming out after the season. There were plenty of people who predicted other teams to win the FInals or even the WCF. Interest this season was sky high as evidenced by the Finals ratings being the highest since Jordan's Bulls.

Just who were these "plenty of other people" that predicted GS wouldn't make it out if the west?

This season's champions were a foregone conclusion the moment KD signed whether people want to admit it or not



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[Pachinko_]

This will be an awesome regular season

Adding Houston to the teams I'm very curious to see how they do... in no particular order:
- Wolves with Jimmy buckets
- Healthy Sixers with Fultz
- Lakers with Ball, Lopez and whoever they pick up in FA
- Bucks of course with fed Thon, interesting rookies, healthy Khris
- Blazers with Nurk and Swanigan
- Celtics with whatever move they make in FA
- Sacramento with a number of interesting young guys + Bogdanovic
- 2nd year of Boogie + AD in NOLA
- Other teams with young developing cores like the Nuggets

[FlagsFlyForever]

Why doesn't it make a difference to you? In the fallout from both of these player moves, one of these teams is beatable and one is not. As an NBA fan: meh?

The Warriors couldn't beat Cleveland without KD. What were they supposed to do, just sit back and hope that Kyrie and Love get hurt every FInals? The notion that they were unbeatable with KD is only coming out after the season. There were plenty of people who predicted other teams to win the FInals or even the WCF. Interest this season was sky high as evidenced by the Finals ratings being the highest since Jordan's Bulls.

Just who were these "plenty of other people" that predicted GS wouldn't make it out if the west?

This season's champions were a foregone conclusion the moment KD signed whether people want to admit it or not



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Read through the past threads and find people predicting San Antonio and Cleveland. If you truly believe Golden State is unbeatable then go to Vegas and bet on it. Vegas gives them a 63.6% chance to win the 2018 Finals. They opened with a 66.7% chance to win the 2018 FInals but not enough people were betting on Golden State so they lowered the odds. One of the biggest favorites ever? Yes. But a far cry from a championship being a "foregone conclusion".

[Swan Vox]

Does someone have a Horst Phone jpg lined up yet?

Courtesy of RiotPunch... : )

[Prez]

The Warriors couldn't beat Cleveland without KD. What were they supposed to do, just sit back and hope that Kyrie and Love get hurt every FInals? The notion that they were unbeatable with KD is only coming out after the season. There were plenty of people who predicted other teams to win the FInals or even the WCF. Interest this season was sky high as evidenced by the Finals ratings being the highest since Jordan's Bulls.

Just who were these "plenty of other people" that predicted GS wouldn't make it out if the west?

This season's champions were a foregone conclusion the moment KD signed whether people want to admit it or not



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Read through the past threads and find people predicting San Antonio and Cleveland. If you truly believe Golden State is unbeatable then go to Vegas and bet on it. Vegas gives them a 63.6% chance to win the 2018 Finals. They opened with a 66.7% chance to win the 2018 FInals but not enough people were betting on Golden State so they lowered the odds. One of the biggest favorites ever? Yes. But a far cry from a championship being a "foregone conclusion".

The vast majority opinion was that GSW was going to dominate the league. Of course it's not going to be a 100% unanimous opinion. Just because some dumb anti-GSW predictions were made doesn't change anything, all it means is the majority opinion was right. An MVP joined a pre-existing 70+ win juggernaut and they destroyed the league. Like the majority of fans expected.

[emunney]

I know the difference, but it doesn't make a difference to me. It just doesn't upset me. Lebron leaving Cleveland wouldn't even have upset me except for I know tons of people in Cleveland and he absolutely embarrassed the entire city on some self serving national "reveal"

Why doesn't it make a difference to you? In the fallout from both of these player moves, one of these teams is beatable and one is not. As an NBA fan: meh?

The Warriors couldn't beat Cleveland without KD. What were they supposed to do, just sit back and hope that Kyrie and Love get hurt every FInals? The notion that they were unbeatable with KD is only coming out after the season. There were plenty of people who predicted other teams to win the FInals or even the WCF. Interest this season was sky high as evidenced by the Finals ratings being the highest since Jordan's Bulls.

I guess plenty of people thought the Warriors could lose in the same way plenty of people think the world is flat, or is run by a clandestine cabal of lizard men in human suits. Ask everybody a question and you'll get answers you could never dream. Doesn't infringe on reality.

[Profound23]

So Mello is supposed to join the Rockets now?

That's going to be a weird team.

[FlagsFlyForever]

Why doesn't it make a difference to you? In the fallout from both of these player moves, one of these teams is beatable and one is not. As an NBA fan: meh?

The Warriors couldn't beat Cleveland without KD. What were they supposed to do, just sit back and hope that Kyrie and Love get hurt every FInals? The notion that they were unbeatable with KD is only coming out after the season. There were plenty of people who predicted other teams to win the FInals or even the WCF. Interest this season was sky high as evidenced by the Finals ratings being the highest since Jordan's Bulls.

I guess plenty of people thought the Warriors could lose in the same way plenty of people think the world is flat, or is run by a clandestine cabal of lizard men in human suits. Ask everybody a question and you'll get answers you could never dream. Doesn't infringe on reality.

I'll bring up the Vegas odds again. Vegas is a great indicator of public opinion because the books adjust their lines based on where the money comes. Last season, the Warriors were -150 preseason favorites which essentially means Vegas would make money if the Warriors won the Finals less than 60% of the time. Since betting lines are always intended to make Vegas money, it is safe to say the general public felt there was less than a 60% chance of a Warriors championship heading into last season.

[worthlessBucks]

DeAndre, we're locking you inside. The rest of us are leaving in a few years though.

[Plossum]

So Mello is supposed to join the Rockets now?

That's going to be a weird team.

They'll need to average 130 a game with Melo and Harden anchoring the D.

[Plossum]

DeAndre, we're locking you inside. The rest of us are leaving in a few years though.

This is the hilarious forgotten story of this saga--particularly if Blake bolts as well in FA.

[Oscar71]

The NBA. Where Impatience Happens.

[engelmartin]

Now all Houston has to do is get rid of James Harden and they'll have a shot at the WCF.

Maybe Dallas has a shot at Deandre now?

[AussieBuck]

60+% chance of winning is pretty significant in a 30 horse race

[DingleJerry]

The Warriors couldn't beat Cleveland without KD. What were they supposed to do, just sit back and hope that Kyrie and Love get hurt every FInals? The notion that they were unbeatable with KD is only coming out after the season. There were plenty of people who predicted other teams to win the FInals or even the WCF. Interest this season was sky high as evidenced by the Finals ratings being the highest since Jordan's Bulls.

I guess plenty of people thought the Warriors could lose in the same way plenty of people think the world is flat, or is run by a clandestine cabal of lizard men in human suits. Ask everybody a question and you'll get answers you could never dream. Doesn't infringe on reality.

I'll bring up the Vegas odds again. Vegas is a great indicator of public opinion because the books adjust their lines based on where the money comes. Last season, the Warriors were -150 preseason favorites which essentially means Vegas would make money if the Warriors won the Finals less than 60% of the time. Since betting lines are always intended to make Vegas money, it is safe to say the general public felt there was less than a 60% chance of a Warriors championship heading into last season.

Didn't Vegas just open GSW as the largest major sport favorite ever? For last year there was the 'will they fit together' question hanging over at the beginning, that question is cleared up now. I know you're talking about what people thought so Vegas odds are relevant. But If you paid attention to 538 type statistical things, they had it higher than 60%. And going into the Finals I think they had it at 92%.

All that said, if Kawhi doesn't get hurt things might get interesting. If Cavs don't blow game 3 things could get interesting, and if the Cavs would try regular season to get home court it could make it much closer. So I know GSW is a near lock barring injury, but a big addition to Cavs or SAS could at least make things competitive and get those series to more like 60/40 type scenarios instead of 85/15 like now. Something as simple as If Cavs flip Love for George and get home court.

[jschligs]

The Warriors couldn't beat Cleveland without KD. What were they supposed to do, just sit back and hope that Kyrie and Love get hurt every FInals? The notion that they were unbeatable with KD is only coming out after the season. There were plenty of people who predicted other teams to win the FInals or even the WCF. Interest this season was sky high as evidenced by the Finals ratings being the highest since Jordan's Bulls.

I guess plenty of people thought the Warriors could lose in the same way plenty of people think the world is flat, or is run by a clandestine cabal of lizard men in human suits. Ask everybody a question and you'll get answers you could never dream. Doesn't infringe on reality.

I'll bring up the Vegas odds again. Vegas is a great indicator of public opinion because the books adjust their lines based on where the money comes. Last season, the Warriors were -150 preseason favorites which essentially means Vegas would make money if the Warriors won the Finals less than 60% of the time. Since betting lines are always intended to make Vegas money, it is safe to say the general public felt there was less than a 60% chance of a Warriors championship heading into last season.

The Warriors could've beat Cleveland without KD, they did it. Yes I know the Cavs had injuries but even last year they were up 3-1. Who knows who they could've signed if KD didn't come along.

There was talks of maybe the Spurs or Rockets being able to contend, but it was pretty much a lock that it would be Cleveland vs Golden State.

And the general public is dumb.

[Bucksfan28]

Using fluctuation of Vegas odds to represent public opinion is dumb. Gun to everyone placing a bet's head, and 99% are picking GSW.

[DingleJerry]

Right, they had to lower the GSW odds to get action on it because it's just not worth betting if you put it at 80% or more to win. Chances are they lost money by lowering it so much to get action on it.

[emunney]

It's pretty distressing if the Knicks get Ujiri. Have been waiting for a while for NY and LA owners to realize that they can afford to outbid everybody for the execs who demonstrate superior ability. The good news is he'd be leaving an East team; the bad news it's a forgotten blue print for flailing big markets to poach smaller market decision makers (and I'm aware that Toronto is not really a small market at all, particularly if what you're marketing is smashed crates). With the lux tax providing a harder cap, teams are eventually going to realize that you get a *lot* more bang for your buck by throwing an extra 10m at a top GM.

This is the kind of advantage we thought 3 billionaire owners might be able to figure out, but apparently they've gone the opposite direction. How much better would everybody feel now if we'd hired Ujiri? I mean, ****.