Official Melo Trade Thread: WOJ BOMB UPDATE PG 21: Will Waive NTC for HOU and CLE

[moocow007]

the situation has changed. One of his best friends CP3 is on the team and I'm sure just like Harden and CP3 talked about sharing the ball. They would talk to melo about his role there. Much different situations from MDA here with Melo and MDA in HOU with Melo.

There are leaders already on that team.

sas said melo became a target instantly after chris paul arrived. he was getting calls within a half hour of the paul deal. they want to form their own big 3.

I'm all for it. I hope its true. Morey has fleeced us before. I want something substantial back for him.

Ryan Anderson? And we think Anthony can't defend?

[mpharris36]

sas was just on mike and mike. said melo wants out. feels like too much has happened. wants either cleveland or houston and that's it. houston definitely interested.

well we aren't buying you out melo so one of those teams got to come with a couple assets. HOU has got to make a deal soon to get over the cap before midnight on friday.

i still don't see a deal. deals with both teams have the knicks taking longer contracts when melo might opt out in one year. doesn't seem worth it even if you got a late 1st.

Anderson , NGT contract, and a couple future 1sts I would do it. Yes Anderson deal is longer but you can find a deal for him. HOU was trying to get someone to take his entire contract. I think we can just take on a small term deal and get a couple picks from them.

[mpharris36]

sas said melo became a target instantly after chris paul arrived. he was getting calls within a half hour of the paul deal. they want to form their own big 3.

I'm all for it. I hope its true. Morey has fleeced us before. I want something substantial back for him.

Ryan Anderson? And we think Anthony can't defend?

I would re-route anderson since we don't need him. But get a future pick or two from the rockets.

[louieOrr]

I'm all for it. I hope its true. Morey has fleeced us before. I want something substantial back for him.

Ryan Anderson? And we think Anthony can't defend?

I would re-route anderson since we don't need him. But get a future pick or two from the rockets.

As much as we need the fresh start, I think we perpetuate our laughingstock status by facilitating that big 3 for such little return. If Morey wants Melo, he's gonna have to use his creativity and facilitate a 3 team deal that nets us something truly valuable.

[ChaosHamster]

sas was just on mike and mike. said melo wants out. feels like too much has happened. wants either cleveland or houston and that's it. houston definitely interested.

sas

[moocow007]

Ryan Anderson? And we think Anthony can't defend?

I would re-route anderson since we don't need him. But get a future pick or two from the rockets.

As much as we need the fresh start, I think we perpetuate our laughingstock status by facilitating that big 3 for such little return. If Morey wants Melo, he's gonna have to use his creativity and facilitate a 3 team deal that nets us something truly valuable.

Yeah that's my take. He may have fleeced the Clippers but no reason to help, of all people, Morey out. Morey would have to find another team to swindle Ryan Anderson to that would actually give up assets that can be routed to the Knicks.

[EchelonNYK]

You're delusional if you think Melo would be a good fit in Houston. He along with James and CP3 are ball dominant players, who need the ball to be effective. That formula is not beating the Warriors or the Spurs out west

Also, the defense on that team

[NOOB77]

I'm all for it. I hope its true. Morey has fleeced us before. I want something substantial back for him.

Ryan Anderson? And we think Anthony can't defend?

I would re-route anderson since we don't need him. But get a future pick or two from the rockets.

Rockets couldn't give him away at the deadline from the reports I were reading.

[moocow007]

sas was just on mike and mike. said melo wants out. feels like too much has happened. wants either cleveland or houston and that's it. houston definitely interested.

sas

SAS was on the Hahn, Humpty and Canty show last night and what he said is kinda true. He may be a loudmouth but he actually is close enough to Anthony to know what Anthony is feeling. I think the general consensus from the crew however is that you don't just buy him out because that's what Anthony wants, it has to make sense and be worth the Knicks while. None of them suggested stretching Anthony. They did suggest stretching Noah.

[god shammgod]

Ryan Anderson? And we think Anthony can't defend?

I would re-route anderson since we don't need him. But get a future pick or two from the rockets.

Rockets couldn't give him away at the deadline from the reports I were reading.

teams were asking for 2 picks it says on the wiretap. how can you reroute him then ?

[moocow007]

You're delusional if you think Melo would be a good fit in Houston. He along with James and and CP3 are ball dominant players, who need the ball to be effective. That formula is not beating the Warriors or the Spurs out west

Also, the defense on that team

Logic doesn't really matter. All it takes is for Morey (and presumably D'Antoni) to believe it.

[NBA Fan 1234]

You're delusional if you think Melo would be a good fit in Houston. He along with James and and CP3 are ball dominant players, who need the ball to be effective. That formula is not beating the Warriors or the Spurs out west

Also, the defense on that team

Few things
- Melo is a better defender than Anderson is at the 4
- Melo is a more versatile player than Anderson is at the 4
- Melo is an elite catch and shoot player and has been for the last few years
- All 3 guys CAN play off ball

I agree they are not beating the Warriors or Spurs (which goes back to my initial point on the trade, that CP is an idiot for picking Houston over SA), but for a one year attempt, there's no reason to not go all in - next offseason I believe they'd have a **** ton of cap space if they are able to get rid of Anderson (Melo opts out).

[JohnStarksTheDunk]

I would re-route anderson since we don't need him. But get a future pick or two from the rockets.

As much as we need the fresh start, I think we perpetuate our laughingstock status by facilitating that big 3 for such little return. If Morey wants Melo, he's gonna have to use his creativity and facilitate a 3 team deal that nets us something truly valuable.

Yeah that's my take. He may have fleeced the Clippers but no reason to help, of all people, Morey out. Morey would have to find another team to swindle Ryan Anderson to that would actually give up assets that can be routed to the Knicks.

Yes, agreed. If Melo wants HOU so bad, he can opt out next summer and sign there. Melo wanting to play elsewhere works in our favor, as it raises the likelihood that he leaves on his own. So we should be less desperate to trade him, not more.

[mpharris36]

Ryan Anderson? And we think Anthony can't defend?

I would re-route anderson since we don't need him. But get a future pick or two from the rockets.

Rockets couldn't give him away at the deadline from the reports I were reading.

they were looking to unload his entire salary. No one is taking his entire salary but you could take on a contract or two that better fit our roster. Like Maybe a Moe Harkless and another piece...

[Capn'O]

sas was just on mike and mike. said melo wants out. feels like too much has happened. wants either cleveland or houston and that's it. houston definitely interested.

Gee. Houston isn't "too far" I guess.

I figured he'd follow Paul. A Cleveland trade never really made any sense. If the Knicks brass is serious about moving him, I suspect that will get done.

[mpharris36]

teams were asking for 2 picks it says on the wiretap. how can you reroute him then ?

rockets were asking teams to take his entire team into cap space. Of course that requires picks to do. But I'm not talking about re-routing him for cap space. Bring back a better fitting player or two.

[NOOB77]

I would re-route anderson since we don't need him. But get a future pick or two from the rockets.

Rockets couldn't give him away at the deadline from the reports I were reading.

teams were asking for 2 picks it says on the wiretap. how can you reroute him then ?

ZEN ???

[moocow007]

I feel like the CP3 trade should make us less desperate to trade him, because it's possible he could opt out next summer and just sign there.

Yeah. Unless Anthony is going to intentionally make himself a distraction (and he doesn't seem like the type to be honest) there really is no reason to rush to dump him. Yes, it's better if he's not on the Knicks and he has no future here but that doesn't mean you have to cow tail to what he wants. At the end of the day, it's about what is in the best interest of the Knicks and maximizing things. Right now, I don't see a buyout (definitely not a waiver) as maximizing things for NY. SAS said emphatically that money absolutely does matter for Anthony so it's highly highly unlikely that he will agree to a sizable cut in a buyout and that if the choice was taking less money to get out or keeping the money, he will likely choose the money.

[Capn'O]

You're delusional if you think Melo would be a good fit in Houston. He along with James and and CP3 are ball dominant players, who need the ball to be effective. That formula is not beating the Warriors or the Spurs out west

Also, the defense on that team

Logic doesn't really matter. All it takes is for Morey (and presumably D'Antoni) to believe it.

I also think Paul and Melo want this to happen. It's maybe part of the deal in trading for Paul that you have to make a legit push for Melo too.

[god shammgod]

teams were asking for 2 picks it says on the wiretap. how can you reroute him then ?

rockets were asking teams to take his entire team into cap space. Of course that requires picks to do. But I'm not talking about re-routing him for cap space. Bring back a better fitting player or two.

why give up a cheaper contract, or 2, you don't want for a more expensive one you don't want. that's even harder to get rid of. it doesn't make sense. portland, your example, wants to free up money. this doesn't help them.