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Post#1 » by ghostpotato » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:16 pm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2718140.amp.html

Is there a chance the Nets will make the playoffs next season?
It seems that the Cavs, Celtics, Bucks, Wizards, and Heat will make the playoffs next year.
On the other hand, the Knicks, Magic, Hawks, Pacers, and Bulls will likely not. JB is gone. PG and Milsap should be gone soon.
So that leaves the Hornets, Raptors, 76ers, Nets, and Pistons and 3 spots open.
The Pistons are a mess and have no cap space.
The Raptors may lose Lowry.
The Hornets were bad last season but now have Dwight Howard.
The 76ers have talent but Embiid keeps getting hurt, and Simmons and Fultz have never played in a game.
All the Nets need to do is beat 2 of those 4 teams in the standings.
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Post#2 » by treiz » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:17 pm

0%.

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Post#3 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:19 pm

playoffs?
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Post#4 » by treiz » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:25 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:playoffs?




Literally the first thing I thought of :lol:
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Post#5 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:28 pm

I thought dude was trolling at first but he's serious.

I don't think we have a chance in hell to make the playoffs. I do say we win about 28 games at minimum with good health though, any more than that would be an achievement.
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Post#6 » by Prokorov » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:04 pm

ghostpotato wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2718140.amp.html

Is there a chance the Nets will make the playoffs next season?
It seems that the Cavs, Celtics, Bucks, Wizards, and Heat will make the playoffs next year.
On the other hand, the Knicks, Magic, Hawks, Pacers, and Bulls will likely not. JB is gone. PG and Milsap should be gone soon.
So that leaves the Hornets, Raptors, 76ers, Nets, and Pistons and 3 spots open.
The Pistons are a mess and have no cap space.
The Raptors may lose Lowry.
The Hornets were bad last season but now have Dwight Howard.
The 76ers have talent but Embiid keeps getting hurt, and Simmons and Fultz have never played in a game.
All the Nets need to do is beat 2 of those 4 teams in the standings.


I'm basing my opinion on the current roster. Obviously if we got high impact free agents (unlikely) it could change:

id put it at somewhere between 1-5% for the following reasons:

1) We wont play to make the playoffs. young struggling players will be allowed to play through poor play. guys will be shuffled in and out of the rotation

2) we are (again) a team of bench players. not enough starting talent(at least not until these guys grow up more)

3) we cant sustain injuries. we have so little depth in quality players any 1 injury could result in a 1-10 stretch as we saw last year

4) new systems. with lopez gone i expect a completely different defensive system. growing pains come with that

5) if everything goes right, we still arent very talented. if everyone stays healthy and it comes together quick and a few guys take suprise leaps we still lack the talent to be a .500 team.

now if we land some legit NBA starters... sure the chances improve
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Post#8 » by Antti22 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:19 pm

Depends on what we do in FA, but expecting we get either Porter Jr or Reddick. I would put our chanches at around 10% chanche to make it as 8th seed. Thats if everything happens to click and there are some other teams that have problems. And I am happy with that 10% :P
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Post#9 » by Keith Van Horn » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:34 pm

Agree with Antti ^^

depends what happens in free agency and who we bring in

but 10% is the most I'd go. Maybe could sneak in if the East is really bad this year with wins in the mid 30s... but I'm expecting something like 25-30 wins tbh.
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Post#10 » by Paradise » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:43 pm

I think we have enough talent to get better and make a Miami-esque run at the 8th seed barring good health to Jeremy, Caris, D'Lo but I'm not going expect anything but 30 wins. That's a 12-13th slot. Not the playoffs but improvement nonetheless...

Free agency hasn't started. It's possible to go further into a winning direction with a Gallinari/Porter or in a continued development signing like Patterson, Snell.


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Post#11 » by Roy Tarpley » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:00 pm

Curmudgeonly Nets fans predicted low 20 wins last year
Optimistic Nets fans predicted high 20s
Some new Nets fans (mostly Lin fans) predicted low 30s
Linsaniacs predicted high 30s

In reality, the Nets won 20 but it's probable that with a healthy Lin, the Nets would've won around 28-30. So I'll use 29 as the baseline.

Overall player improvement (mostly Levert, RHJ, Whitehead) based on experience: +3
Overall team improvement from unity and continuity if no major player is injured: +2
Replacing Foye with Russell: +6 (based on nothing but tingly feelings inside)
Replacing Lopez/Hamilton with Mozgov/Allen: -3

Total +8

2017-18: 37 wins and miss the playoffs
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Post#12 » by Prokorov » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:17 pm

Roy Tarpley wrote:Curmudgeonly Nets fans predicted low 20 wins last year
Optimistic Nets fans predicted high 20s
Some new Nets fans (mostly Lin fans) predicted low 30s
Linsaniacs predicted high 30s

In reality, the Nets won 20 but it's probable that with a healthy Lin, the Nets would've won around 28-30. So I'll use 29 as the baseline.

Overall player improvement (mostly Levert, RHJ, Whitehead) based on experience: +3
Overall team improvement from unity and continuity if no major player is injured: +2
Replacing Foye with Russell: +6 (based on nothing but tingly feelings inside)
Replacing Lopez/Hamilton with Mozgov/Allen: -3

Total +8

2017-18: 37 wins and miss the playoffs


I dont think you can dismiss the Lin injury. part of why alot of people predicted low 20's was the lack of NBA talent/starting talent. when you dont have alot of talent injuries lead to long dismal losing streaks. maybe lin stays healthy but if levert goes down, russell goes down, RHJ goes down that will also effect us.

We dont have the depth in talent to sustain injuries.

i think also some people had us in 40's for wins last year.

i dont really have an issue saying Lin was worth 9 extra wins if healthy, i think thats reasonable given his low level replacments. but i think assuming we suffer no injuries or can sustain an injury to any starter is optomistic

its REALLY hard to win with young guys.. even if you are tyring to win and have young guys playing liek allstars.

i mean look at the wolves.... they only won 31 games last year and thats with Towns being a 25/12 player and wiggins a 24/5 player with Dunn, Dieng, rubio, rush, muhammed and thibs running things.
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Post#13 » by TinmanZBoy » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:25 pm

it will be a miracle that the Nets makes the playoff... but you do have a guy who is a living miracle --- Jeremy Lin
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Post#14 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:38 pm

If we could avoid the bottom 5 to prevent the Celtics from getting another franchise player, I would be thrilled.

Playoffs are out of the question. Only way it happens is if Kenny Atkinson does some crazy ****.
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Post#15 » by 13th Man » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:40 pm

Roy Tarpley wrote:Curmudgeonly Nets fans predicted low 20 wins last year
Optimistic Nets fans predicted high 20s
Some new Nets fans (mostly Lin fans) predicted low 30s
Linsaniacs predicted high 30s

In reality, the Nets won 20 but it's probable that with a healthy Lin, the Nets would've won around 28-30. So I'll use 29 as the baseline.

Overall player improvement (mostly Levert, RHJ, Whitehead) based on experience: +3
Overall team improvement from unity and continuity if no major player is injured: +2
Replacing Foye with Russell: +6 (based on nothing but tingly feelings inside)
Replacing Lopez/Hamilton with Mozgov/Allen: -3

Total +8

2017-18: 37 wins and miss the playoffs



Last year I chose 25 and said that that was being optimistic. The team as of right now I'll say 23-25 (with healthy Lin) but things could change through free agency.

With all of these super teams being formed there will be more mediocre teams which will increase our chances of competing in the pool of mediocrity :)
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Post#16 » by enko » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:44 am

With a healthy lineup, i predict this team can win between 30-37.
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Post#17 » by FlipFlopShot » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:04 am

Need to be a 50/50 team, for consideration. That is 41 wins. To be in the conversation is all we can dream for.
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Post#18 » by ChokeFasncists » Sat Jul 1, 2017 7:47 am

Prokorov wrote:
Roy Tarpley wrote:Curmudgeonly Nets fans predicted low 20 wins last year
Optimistic Nets fans predicted high 20s
Some new Nets fans (mostly Lin fans) predicted low 30s
Linsaniacs predicted high 30s

In reality, the Nets won 20 but it's probable that with a healthy Lin, the Nets would've won around 28-30. So I'll use 29 as the baseline.

Overall player improvement (mostly Levert, RHJ, Whitehead) based on experience: +3
Overall team improvement from unity and continuity if no major player is injured: +2
Replacing Foye with Russell: +6 (based on nothing but tingly feelings inside)
Replacing Lopez/Hamilton with Mozgov/Allen: -3

Total +8

2017-18: 37 wins and miss the playoffs


I dont think you can dismiss the Lin injury. part of why alot of people predicted low 20's was the lack of NBA talent/starting talent. when you dont have alot of talent injuries lead to long dismal losing streaks. maybe lin stays healthy but if levert goes down, russell goes down, RHJ goes down that will also effect us.

We dont have the depth in talent to sustain injuries.

i think also some people had us in 40's for wins last year.

i dont really have an issue saying Lin was worth 9 extra wins if healthy, i think thats reasonable given his low level replacments. but i think assuming we suffer no injuries or can sustain an injury to any starter is optomistic

its REALLY hard to win with young guys.. even if you are tyring to win and have young guys playing liek allstars.

i mean look at the wolves.... they only won 31 games last year and thats with Towns being a 25/12 player and wiggins a 24/5 player with Dunn, Dieng, rubio, rush, muhammed and thibs running things.

TBF they probably make the playoffs in the East.

OP: It's possible, but chances are very low. If everyone has a career year, DRuss plays good D, Allen contributes somewhat significantly (especially on D and dunks), Acy keeps shooting well, Booker, iHead and RHJ improve their J, Mozgov can shoot threes and PnR, it's doable
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Post#19 » by 13th Man » Sat Jul 1, 2017 11:48 am

The East is garbage, we have a chance lol.
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Post#20 » by Prokorov » Sat Jul 1, 2017 12:08 pm

ChokeFasncists wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Roy Tarpley wrote:Curmudgeonly Nets fans predicted low 20 wins last year
Optimistic Nets fans predicted high 20s
Some new Nets fans (mostly Lin fans) predicted low 30s
Linsaniacs predicted high 30s

In reality, the Nets won 20 but it's probable that with a healthy Lin, the Nets would've won around 28-30. So I'll use 29 as the baseline.

Overall player improvement (mostly Levert, RHJ, Whitehead) based on experience: +3
Overall team improvement from unity and continuity if no major player is injured: +2
Replacing Foye with Russell: +6 (based on nothing but tingly feelings inside)
Replacing Lopez/Hamilton with Mozgov/Allen: -3

Total +8

2017-18: 37 wins and miss the playoffs


I dont think you can dismiss the Lin injury. part of why alot of people predicted low 20's was the lack of NBA talent/starting talent. when you dont have alot of talent injuries lead to long dismal losing streaks. maybe lin stays healthy but if levert goes down, russell goes down, RHJ goes down that will also effect us.

We dont have the depth in talent to sustain injuries.

i think also some people had us in 40's for wins last year.

i dont really have an issue saying Lin was worth 9 extra wins if healthy, i think thats reasonable given his low level replacments. but i think assuming we suffer no injuries or can sustain an injury to any starter is optomistic

its REALLY hard to win with young guys.. even if you are tyring to win and have young guys playing liek allstars.

i mean look at the wolves.... they only won 31 games last year and thats with Towns being a 25/12 player and wiggins a 24/5 player with Dunn, Dieng, rubio, rush, muhammed and thibs running things.

TBF they probably make the playoffs in the East.

OP: It's possible, but chances are very low. If everyone has a career year, DRuss plays good D, Allen contributes somewhat significantly (especially on D and dunks), Acy keeps shooting well, Booker, iHead and RHJ improve their J, Mozgov can shoot threes and PnR, it's doable


i think if all those things happen we are still just a 30 or so win team. we still lack talent big time and will be playing young low level talent big mintues and letting them play through struggles.

for us to even sniff playoffs we need to add legit starting NBA talent via FA

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