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PG Part II: The Summer of George

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Re: PG Part II: The Summer of George 

Post#1901 » by Tai » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:36 pm

chrisab123 wrote:I'm thinking in the next 48 hours we'll see on ESPN the breaking news thing that George is traded to the Rockets/Cavs. When these types of reports come out that another team is being unreasonable it's never a good sign. It's more of the spin process to explain to a rabid fan base that once again we tried to make a trade but the prices were too high. I think Danny doesn't want to give up Jae and Bradley personally.


Isn't the article saying Pritchard wants the Nets pick on top of that? The Lakers pick has always been rumored along with Crowder and Bradley.
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Re: PG Part II: The Summer of George 

Post#1902 » by Stadium5 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:36 pm

Pritch can leverage against Ainge since he can just tell him that he'll send PG-13 to LAL early and make the LAL pick worse
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Re: PG Part II: The Summer of George 

Post#1903 » by Green_teamer » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:36 pm

Afam wrote:The offer is 2018 Lakers pick, and 2018 Nets pick. It is still too much to give up for Paul George.


Agreed. Word out of our camp was that we didn't want go give up the Lakers or Nets pick. So now they are asking for both. It's negotiations. They want the lakers pick that's all this is
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Re: PG Part II: The Summer of George 

Post#1904 » by OFWGKTA » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:37 pm

Stadium5 wrote:Pritch can leverage against Ainge since he can just tell him that he'll send PG-13 to LAL early and make the LAL pick worse


Wouldn't he be stupid to not take the LAL18 only (not even including whatever else we're adding) over the Randle/Clarkson late pick offer? Plus, it just becomes the SAC 19 in that case, which I'm sure Ainge can live with since he made the deal.
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Re: PG Part II: The Summer of George 

Post#1905 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:38 pm

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Re: PG Part II: The Summer of George 

Post#1906 » by chrisab123 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:38 pm

Afam wrote:The offer is 2018 Lakers pick, and 2018 Nets pick. It is still too much to give up for Paul George.


I don't care what Murphy says they aren't asking for both. Murphy gets his marching orders from Celtics brass like Bulpett. It's spin. He sees the coverage it's gotten last 48 hours and knows that it's not going to happen so why not leak to Murphy that ridiculous offer in case they don't come back to the table. I think he balked at Bradley and Crowder and not so much the Lakers pick. He values those two as major pieces which I doubt any other team does.

If it was legit it would have came out right after draft night. Just like the Butler details did.
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Re: PG Part II: The Summer of George 

Post#1907 » by DK-All Day » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:38 pm

Just let the Pacers lose PG for nothing next summer. This is getting ridiculous.
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Re: PG Part II: The Summer of George 

Post#1908 » by Romeiro Celtic » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:38 pm

The Boston Celtics consider the Indiana Pacers' most recent trade demand for Paul George to be unrealistic.

The Celtics are reportedly interested in trading for George if they are able to sign Gordon Hayward in free agency.

Kevin Pritchard is asking the Celtics for the Brooklyn Nets' 2018 first round pick as well as the Los Angeles Lakers' 2018 first round pick, plus starting player(s).

George can be a free agent in 2018 and is not certain to re-sign with the Celtics as he's signaled a preference to play for the Lakers.

The Cleveland Cavaliers and Lakers are also interested in trading for George this offseason.

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Re: PG Part II: The Summer of George 

Post#1909 » by SparringPartner » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:38 pm

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gman5589 wrote:As I've now said a million times in this thread:

1. Nobody in the league values Bradley/Crowder as big assets, especially for a star deal, as BOS management would. Period.

2. Too many assets = teams wanting an unreasonable haul from Danny.

3. If the C's only big assets (BKN 18, LAL/SAC 18) aren't in there, Pritchard will settle for another contender willing to part with multiple 1sts in 2019, 2010, etc. and beyond.


Please give an example of a realistic deal that trumps; Avery, Jae, BOS'18, MEM'19, LAC'19


Here's how NBA execs view it:

Bradley/Crowder are precisely what you think they are - hard-working ham and eggers that have reached their ceiling.
The NBA agrees.

BOS 18 is a late round pick.

MEM and LAC are mid-rounders; at best.

Trust me, I'm down with the deal. The C's have a massive perception problem all the way around in multiple facets.


You must have missed my question. I will repeat. Please give an example of a realistic deal that trumps; Avery, Jae, BOS'18, MEM'19, LAC'19
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Re: PG Part II: The Summer of George 

Post#1910 » by LLBaseballguy » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:38 pm

chrisab123 wrote:I'm thinking in the next 48 hours we'll see on ESPN the breaking news thing that George is traded to the Rockets/Cavs. When these types of reports come out that another team is being unreasonable it's never a good sign. It's more of the spin process to explain to a rabid fan base that once again we tried to make a trade but the prices were too high. [b][b]I think Danny doesn't want to give up Jae and Bradley personally[/b].
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Which is a huge Mistake...IMO
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Re: PG Part II: The Summer of George 

Post#1911 » by Slartibartfast » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:39 pm

The flight risk on PG might be weighing heavily on the FO. If so leaking an Indy outrageous demand gives them cover for saying no.
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Re: PG Part II: The Summer of George 

Post#1912 » by Bill Bradley » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:39 pm

I didn't really understand why people talk about the LA/SAC pick as a throw in since that pick may very well be better than the Brooklyn pick. I wouldn't give it up for George. Sign Hayward and go all in for up to two high picks in the 2018 draft.
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Post#1913 » by Afam » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:39 pm

I edited my previous post.
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Re: PG Part II: The Summer of George 

Post#1914 » by UNCBlue012 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:39 pm

Afam wrote:The Celtics are reportedly interested in trading for George if they are able to sign Gordon Hayward in free agency.

Kevin Pritchard is asking the Celtics for the Brooklyn Nets' 2018 first round pick as well as the Los Angeles Lakers' 2018 first round pick, plus starting player(s).

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So this the pacers asking price

Avery Bradley
Jae Crowder
2018 Nets Pick
2018 Lakers pick.

The Pacers President/General Manager is not serious about trading Paul George. What a joke.


I HIGHLY doubt this rumor is true. They may WANT it, but there is 0% chance they get it -- and they know it. NO ONE in the league gives them any sort of value even close, especially for a rental.
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Re: PG Part II: The Summer of George 

Post#1915 » by Jaqua92 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:39 pm

chrisab123 wrote:I'm thinking in the next 48 hours we'll see on ESPN the breaking news thing that George is traded to the Rockets/Cavs. When these types of reports come out that another team is being unreasonable it's never a good sign. It's more of the spin process to explain to a rabid fan base that once again we tried to make a trade but the prices were too high. I think Danny doesn't want to give up Jae and Bradley personally.


This still contradicts everything we've heard.

Jae and Bradley? Give me a break. Danny Ainge does not meet criteria for any psychotic/delusional disorder.

I dont buy this. Either that, or thst other dude was right. GMs dont like Danny, dont want to deal with him and will spite him. Sucks. Lookin more and more like this horde could bite us if we dont mske this happen. THIS is what the assets are for.

AD will NEVER happen. EVER. People need to wake up to that. If a compromise has to be Jae Bradley, LAL 18 and Tatum for George, fine. An established 27 year old all star over a potential player. All day.
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Re: PG Part II: The Summer of George 

Post#1916 » by bs_and_cs » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:39 pm

Afam wrote:The offer is 2018 Lakers pick, and 2018 Nets pick. It is still too much to give up for Paul George.


What, just a few days ago you were on here telling us Ainge needs to get the trade done at all costs.

Now it's too much to give up for Paul George?

:lol: It's almost like we were telling you days ago that Ainge isn't going to make a bad trade for the sake of making a trade.
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Re: PG Part II: The Summer of George 

Post#1917 » by Slartibartfast » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:40 pm

SparringPartner wrote:
gman5589 wrote:
SparringPartner wrote:
Please give an example of a realistic deal that trumps; Avery, Jae, BOS'18, MEM'19, LAC'19


Here's how NBA execs view it:

Bradley/Crowder are precisely what you think they are - hard-working ham and eggers that have reached their ceiling.
The NBA agrees.

BOS 18 is a late round pick.

MEM and LAC are mid-rounders; at best.

Trust me, I'm down with the deal. The C's have a massive perception problem all the way around in multiple facets.


You must have missed my question. I will repeat. Please give an example of a realistic deal that trumps; Avery, Jae, BOS'18, MEM'19, LAC'19


I think Houston beats that with Gordon/Ariza/Capela/future pick.
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Re: PG Part II: The Summer of George 

Post#1918 » by chrisab123 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:40 pm

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chrisab123 wrote:I'm thinking in the next 48 hours we'll see on ESPN the breaking news thing that George is traded to the Rockets/Cavs. When these types of reports come out that another team is being unreasonable it's never a good sign. It's more of the spin process to explain to a rabid fan base that once again we tried to make a trade but the prices were too high. [b][b]I think Danny doesn't want to give up Jae and Bradley personally[/b].
[/b]

Which is a huge Mistake...IMO


Well it's a good indication that Bradley is here long term. Which makes no freaking sense. Unless of course he bolts. Paying a guard for 55 games a year a deal upwards of 20-22 million is a big mistake.
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Re: PG Part II: The Summer of George 

Post#1919 » by Sven » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:40 pm

Stadium5 wrote:Pritch can leverage against Ainge since he can just tell him that he'll send PG-13 to LAL early and make the LAL pick worse

And he gets a worse package from LAL for his own team, which is the opposite of doing his job, while we have the SAC19. For some reason I don't think Danny will sweat that "leverage" very much.
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Re: PG Part II: The Summer of George 

Post#1920 » by Drax » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:41 pm

Banks2Pierce wrote:He's legit and there's a 99% chance that his sourcing is coming directly from the Celtics.


You can belive what he tweeted or has written, or what not but i've yet to see Murphy have significant details of a negotiations before others have. But whatever.
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