Bucks ownership: Lowe/Windhorst ESPN piece pg 5

[wisportsfan4]

Overall I think they are doing a good job so far. Sure they've made some mistakes and could've done things better, but at the end of the day this franchise is in a much better place now then it was 3 years ago under Kohl.

How have they done a good job basketball wise?

They let Hammond go. Had winning seasons 2 out of their first 3 years after inheriting a 15-win team. Actually convinced a big name free agent to come to Milwaukee.

Lest I remind you one player Hammond (not new owners) brought in: Giannis.

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[econniption]

Overall I think they are doing a good job so far. Sure they've made some mistakes and could've done things better, but at the end of the day this franchise is in a much better place now then it was 3 years ago under Kohl.

How have they done a good job basketball wise?

They let Hammond go. Had winning seasons 2 out of their first 3 years after inheriting a 15-win team. Actually convinced a big name free agent to come to Milwaukee.

They may have let Hammond go with a year left on his contract, but they most likely replaced him with Hammond lite. They had one barely-winning season, one .500 season, and one 33-win season in three years because of the ascension of a player that they inherited. Monroe may have been a big name at the time, but he's not exactly a star and the "big name free agent" hasn't put the Bucks over the top.

[DanoMac]

We're on a completely different tier than so many other teams when it comes to professionalism and just overall business. The owners come in and set it up as a platform for their daughters to become social media famous and their son to get a front office gig. Really embarrassing.

[LittleRooster]

Overall I think they are doing a good job so far. Sure they've made some mistakes and could've done things better, but at the end of the day this franchise is in a much better place now then it was 3 years ago under Kohl.

How have they done a good job basketball wise?

They let Hammond go. Had winning seasons 2 out of their first 3 years after inheriting a 15-win team. Actually convinced a big name free agent to come to Milwaukee.

They "let" Hammond go when he wanted to interview in Orlando. Then, they didn't have a plan for his departure.

[VooDoo7]

Another big problem is our pussy local media who doesn't hold the team to a higher standard, like they do with the Packers. Anytime the franchise does something stupid or questionable, everybody turns their cheek. No questioning them during interviews. No newspaper articles. Nothing.

They are never held accountable by the media or the casual fans.

[VooDoo7]

How have they done a good job basketball wise?

They let Hammond go. Had winning seasons 2 out of their first 3 years after inheriting a 15-win team. Actually convinced a big name free agent to come to Milwaukee.

They "let" Hammond go when he wanted to interview in Orlando. Then, they didn't have a plan for his departure.

Exactly.

This is like people giving Hammond credit for the Jennings/Mids trade, ignoring the fact that he offered Jennings a contract but he turned it down.

[Bucknado]

I remember thinking how cool the Nets were. New billionaire business man owner, new arena, new unis, etc. When LED came in I had a similar feeling. I hope we don't have a similar fate.

[DanoMac]

Another big problem is our pussy local media who doesn't hold the team to a higher standard, like they do with the Packers. Anytime the franchise does something stupid or questionable, everybody turns their cheek. No questioning them during interviews. No newspaper articles. Nothing.

Yep. This. The organization has the media by the balls. It's disgusting.

And I'd rather the casual fan not call them out. Last time they did, it was when we traded the PPGz Brandon Knight.

[econniption]

I remember thinking how cool the Nets were. New billionaire business man owner, new arena, new unis, etc. When LED came in I had a similar feeling. I hope we don't have a similar fate.

Unfortunately, we have some ties to that Nets organization (Lasry, Kidd, Thorn).

[LittleRooster]

They let Hammond go. Had winning seasons 2 out of their first 3 years after inheriting a 15-win team. Actually convinced a big name free agent to come to Milwaukee.

They "let" Hammond go when he wanted to interview in Orlando. Then, they didn't have a plan for his departure.

Exactly.

This is like people giving Hammond credit for the Jennings/Mids trade, ignoring the fact that he offered Jennings a contract but he turned it down.

Well, that still was a good trade

[NomNomNomParker]

Another big problem is our pussy local media who doesn't hold the team to a higher standard, like they do with the Packers. Anytime the franchise does something stupid or questionable, everybody turns their cheek. No questioning them during interviews. No newspaper articles. Nothing.

Yep. This. The organization has the media by the balls. It's disgusting.

And I'd rather the casual fan not call them out. Last time they did, it was when we traded the PPGz Brandon Knight.

Sports media in Wisconsin generally only care about the packers... Their isn't enough knowledge locally on the Bucks and no one with any balls.

[DanoMac]

Sports media in Wisconsin generally only care about the packers... Their isn't enough knowledge locally on the Bucks and no one with any balls.

Right, it's Packers all year. I think some of the guys that work for JS and OnMilwaukee have a decent amount of knowledge, I just think that they're afraid to truly voice their opinion in fear of being black balled. No one calls them out because of the possible repercussions. Whenever there's a Bucks article, it's an absolute fluff piece. Save for some Woelful stuff.

[VooDoo7]

They "let" Hammond go when he wanted to interview in Orlando. Then, they didn't have a plan for his departure.

Exactly.

This is like people giving Hammond credit for the Jennings/Mids trade, ignoring the fact that he offered Jennings a contract but he turned it down.

Well, that still was a good trade

Absolutely. But it only happened because Jennings turned down the contract Hammond offered him. Hard for me to give him much credit because of that.

[VooDoo7]

Sports media in Wisconsin generally only care about the packers... Their isn't enough knowledge locally on the Bucks and no one with any balls.

Right, it's Packers all year. I think some of the guys that work for JS and OnMilwaukee have a decent amount of knowledge, I just think that they're afraid to truly voice their opinion in fear of being black balled. No one calls them out because of the possible repercussions. Whenever there's a Bucks article, it's an absolute fluff piece. Save for some Woelful stuff.

I just don't get why they're intimidated by them. It's the **** Bucks. One of the most irrelevant sports teams over the past 30 years. A team most people in this state could give two **** about.

If anything, you'd think they'd be worried about pissing the Packer organization off more.

[Prez]

Sports media in Wisconsin generally only care about the packers... Their isn't enough knowledge locally on the Bucks and no one with any balls.

Right, it's Packers all year. I think some of the guys that work for JS and OnMilwaukee have a decent amount of knowledge, I just think that they're afraid to truly voice their opinion in fear of being black balled. No one calls them out because of the possible repercussions. Whenever there's a Bucks article, it's an absolute fluff piece. Save for some Woelful stuff.

It's gonna change pretty quickly. Everything is going to be under the microscope when Giannis becomes a megastar. The local media being afraid won't matter when the national media is roasting the franchise. You can already see guys like Woj picking up on it and throwing jabs at ownership, it's going to reach a new level next year. This **** won't fly for long.

[Iheartfootball]

Hedge fund owners. I honestly thought the two of em had a heart. Apparently they aren't just caricatures in Michael Lewis's books. They are Neanderthal cave people that love the thrill of the hunt but when they can't understand something they just through it away and chase a different shiny object.


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[Zeezprah]

think they've done pretty well on the business-side of things (ultimately this is a business), but on the basketball-side, it's been pretty dang disappointing. our situation roster-wise has only gotten worse and any winning we've done was basically because we have giannis.

like has already been said a trillion times, hire good people (experts) to work for you and have them make the decisions. this is how all good businesses operate.

think if we'd admit we need to reset on the roster, i'd feel better about things, but right now it's looking like we're just going to re-sign snell for 4 years and try to beat the warriors/field with this roster as-is. or in another way of thinking, this will be the roster to support prime giannis. not a great decision imo. it's eeriely similar to some of the rosters lebron had to deal with early on in cleveland.

worst i've felt about our situation in awhile.

[Iheartfootball]

[quote="Iheartfootball"]Hedge fund owners. I honestly thought the two of em had a heart. Apparently they aren't just caricatures in Michael Lewis's books. They are Neanderthal cave people that love the thrill of the hunt but when they can't understand something they just through it away and chase a different shiny object.

Someone insert the G.O.T. shame clip.

There's the billboard. Just a bell with with their picture on it and the word SHAME.

[MickeyDavis]

I don't care about their personal life or what they do in their other businesses. All I care about is the basketball side of the Bucks. They have been a big disappointment in that regard.

I didn't expect them to be experts at running a successful NBA franchise. I DID expect them to hire people who were. They haven't.

[Erifee]

I would cut the owners a lot more slack if they had paid for their own arena.