Trade & Free Agency Ideas & Discussion 2

DaleyBlind · Post #1141 » by **DaleyBlind** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:15 am

Cant believe some are against this...Id understand if we were giving up assets to trade for him but Griffin as a FA singing would be amazing.

Jdiddy701 · Post #1142 » by **Jdiddy701** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:17 am

Just look at it this way guys, if the Suns don't get Blake, we still are in GREAT shape.

This isn't like when LMA chose the Spurs over us. That one hurt.

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Christine-In-AZ · Post #1143 » by **Christine-In-AZ** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:20 am

Waylay13 wrote:
jredsaz wrote:I mean my god! The Suns have never landed a big free agent. Looks like we are legitimately close and half the fans want to walk away. All they lose is cap space. With Bled, Chandler, Knight, Dudly they still have contracts they can move to create flexibility.

Never? I dont know Chambers, Manning, AC Green, and Nash. Nope we have never gotten a big free agent.

I'd add Ainge and the free agent the NBA gifted Phoenix long ago ...Connie Hawkins!

DirtyDez · Post #1144 » by **DirtyDez** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:21 am

DaleyBlind wrote:Cant believe some are against this...Id understand if we were giving up assets to trade for him but Griffin as a FA singing would be amazing.

He's missed a full season of games the last 3 years and it wasn't just one injury. His body is eroding.

bigfoot · Post #1145 » by **bigfoot** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:22 am

I don't think we need to give up Warren, other youngsters, and picks to make room for Blake. I'd give up a Miami 1st and Toronto 2nd to the Nets to take over Knight's contract. Keep our roster intact and add Blake.

Bledsoe/Ulis
Booker/Barbosa/Reed
Warren/Jackson/DJJ
Blake/Chriss/Dudley
Chandler/Bender/Williams

BurningHeart · Post #1146 » by **BurningHeart** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:23 am

I can't believe there's anyone who would want that repulsive, flopping, arrogant, cocky, dirty, punk bitch, fragile ass fake thug **** to join this franchise.

Christine-In-AZ · Post #1147 » by **Christine-In-AZ** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:27 am

BurningHeart wrote:I can't believe there's anyone who would want that repulsive, flopping, arrogant, cocky, dirty, punk bitch, fragile ass fake thug **** to join this franchise.

a bolt from out of the blue

bigfoot · Post #1148 » by **bigfoot** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:28 am

BurningHeart wrote:I can't believe there's anyone who would want that repulsive, flopping, arrogant, cocky, dirty, punk bitch, fragile ass fake thug **** to join this franchise.

There's no place like home ... There's no place like home ...

Frank Lee · Post #1149 » by **Frank Lee** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:32 am

thanks for the reality check Chris :ouch:

thamadkant · Post #1150 » by **thamadkant** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:37 am

BurningHeart wrote:I can't believe there's anyone who would want that repulsive, flopping, arrogant, cocky, dirty, punk bitch, fragile ass fake thug **** to join this franchise.

So Suns should only go for players that are humble, generally a saint amongst men, super talented at basketball and classy as a king.

In the entire league only one player stands to meet that criteria just barely...Kawhi Leonard... And he is not available.

Give me a talented player with human emotions and imperfections over a really nice and humble one that doesnt have talent as much talent.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1151 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:40 am

If we sign and trade does Griffin get paid more?

Cutter · Post #1152 » by **Cutter** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:41 am

While I definitely want Blake back, I don’t agree with you saying his injuries have been relatively minor. He missed a full season once, missed more than half the season another time, went out early in the playoffs twice, and there are reports his toe will keep him out until December. I understand the hesitation to give him the full 5 year max and I agree we still should give it to him, but downplaying his injuries is not necessary.

I saw this posted in another forum. Can anyone confirm a Blake toe injury keeping him out until December?

Mr Puddles · Post #1153 » by **Mr Puddles** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:42 am

jcsunsfan wrote:
Mr Puddles wrote:I think a lot of people are not factoring in that signing Millsap or Griffin probably means we're going to have to put together a sign and trade. I sincerely hope we're not going to do something stupid like including Bender or Chriss in a trade to land one of these guys.

BK and um DJJr or something in a sign and trade? BK and Chandler?

This is wishful thinking unfortunately, a sign and trade where we offload an unwanted contract and a very raw undrafted player? The Clippers would probably prefer to let Griffin walk for nothing instead. Most likely, I would see us sending over atleast Warren + next year's miami pick.

BobbieL · Post #1154 » by **BobbieL** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:43 am

bigfoot wrote:I don't think we need to give up Warren, other youngsters, and picks to make room for Blake. I'd give up a Miami 1st and Toronto 2nd to the Nets to take over Knight's contract. Keep our roster intact and add Blake.

Bledsoe/Ulis
Booker/Barbosa/Reed
Warren/Jackson/DJJ
Blake/Chriss/Dudley
Chandler/Bender/Williams

That might work.

Knight, Miamis future first to the Nets for Nicholson or straight nothing. Clear that 11m plus !!

YouTube · Post #1155 » by **Kerrsed** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:43 am

Cutter wrote:
While I definitely want Blake back, I don’t agree with you saying his injuries have been relatively minor. He missed a full season once, missed more than half the season another time, went out early in the playoffs twice, and there are reports his toe will keep him out until December. I understand the hesitation to give him the full 5 year max and I agree we still should give it to him, but downplaying his injuries is not necessary.

I saw this posted in another forum. Can anyone confirm a Blake toe injury keeping him out until December?

According to ESPN's Michael Eaves, Blake Griffin (toe) may not be ready for the start of the season and could be out until December.
He suffered an injury to the plantar plate of his right big toe in Game 3 of the series against Utah and had surgery on May 1, but we haven't heard much about his rehab since then. ESPN's Ramona Shelburne said she has heard otherwise, as her source believes Griffin will be ready in time for the opener.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1156 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:45 am

Trading Chandler should be enough cap wise.

BobbieL · Post #1157 » by **BobbieL** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:46 am

Qwigglez wrote:Besides the money, the Clippers don't have jack **** to offer Griffin. He really wants to play with Beverly, Rivers, Crawford, Wesley Johnson, Lou Williams and Jordan? Redick is likely going to find a better deal somewhere, Rivers, Crawford, and Lou are basically the same player. They sign Griffin to a max and they don't have any more cap space and are stuck with that roster!

They really do not have jack squat to offer to Warren and a Miami first in an S&T might spark their fancy. Granted, doubt they would take Knight - probably want Bledsoe - Sorry not happening. They did get Decker and Harrell from the Rockets

Suns are a better with Griffin on the Suns than the Clippers with Griffin

But 45m is a lot of jack

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1158 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:46 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:If we sign and trade does Griffin get paid more?

Nope. They did away with that rule a few years ago.

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Mr Puddles · Post #1159 » by **Mr Puddles** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:47 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:If we sign and trade does Griffin get paid more?

I don't think so: Under the old CBA, a sign-and-trade deal allowed a player to sign for the true max – in terms of total years and annual raises – even though he wasn’t remaining with his previous team. That’s no longer the case.

For Chriss paul it was different, because it was an opt in.

The reason to sign and trade this time around is more likely that capspace needs to be cleared, unless McD can manoveur his way to more space. I believe one of the issues is Len's caphold (I think 14 mil).

However, I just read on realgm that the suns could sign millsap outright - so I might be confused about our current cap situation.

sunsbum · Post #1160 » by **sunsbum** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:47 am

BurningHeart wrote:I can't believe there's anyone who would want that repulsive, flopping, arrogant, cocky, dirty, punk bitch, fragile ass fake thug **** to join this franchise.

oh geez