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Bucks ownership: Lowe/Windhorst ESPN piece pg 5

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Re: Your view of Bucks ownership 

Post#61 » by tyland » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:43 am

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wisportsfan4 wrote:From someone who formerly worked for LED:

"They have no clue; don't care about people. Year one and two was about family. Year three they could care less."

I mean you said formerly worked for.
Might be some hard feelings there.
Not sure I can trust said source.
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As critical of the new owners I can be, I think this is also of relevance.
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Re: Your view of Bucks ownership 

Post#62 » by wisportsfan4 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:48 am

tyland wrote:
bigkurty wrote:
wisportsfan4 wrote:From someone who formerly worked for LED:

"They have no clue; don't care about people. Year one and two was about family. Year three they could care less."

I mean you said formerly worked for.
Might be some hard feelings there.
Not sure I can trust said source.
Hell hath no fury like a former employee scorned.


As critical of the new owners I can be, I think this is also of relevance.


If only the full story could be told.
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Re: Your view of Bucks ownership 

Post#63 » by worthlessBucks » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:55 am

wisportsfan4 wrote:From someone who formerly worked for LED:

"They have no clue; don't care about people. Year one and two was about family. Year three they could care less."

Always assumed they were purely in it for the asset value. Bought the franchise rather cheap, got the state on the hook for 250, got a new arena on the way, and they'll get a nice return if they ever sell in the near future.
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Re: Your view of Bucks ownership 

Post#64 » by tydett » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:55 am

Full, 100% honest take:

If Kohl still owned the team, I'm not sure they'd look much different (sans a Monroe, maybe).
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Re: Your view of Bucks ownership 

Post#65 » by tyland » Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:10 am

wisportsfan4 wrote:
tyland wrote:
bigkurty wrote:I mean you said formerly worked for.
Might be some hard feelings there.
Not sure I can trust said source.
Hell hath no fury like a former employee scorned.


As critical of the new owners I can be, I think this is also of relevance.


If only the full story could be told.


If only.

Still, there is and always will be more than one side to a story. Don't take this as an attack on those who want to be critical (by all means there are relevant concerns and issues to be discussed) - but just be careful not to take everything as gospel.

The optimist in me hopes that they are still learning the ropes of the industry and will get it together. The basketball side is likely the most foreign from their day jobs, so perhaps this is why it has had the bumpiest road to date.

The cynic in me worries about their intentions and whether the current conflict between owners is a petty pissing match which will set back the franchise at a time that we should have more hope than any other time in the last 15 years.

Time will tell...
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Post#66 » by blazza18 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:12 am

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blazza18 wrote:I get pretty jealous listening and reading to what Steve Ballmer is doing for the Clippers. What could have been.

The Seattle SuperSonics?


I get that concern for sure. I just think he's proving to be a better owner than the too many cooks option we have.
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Re: Your view of Bucks ownership 

Post#67 » by trwi7 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:25 am

tydett wrote:Full, 100% honest take:

If Kohl still owned the team, I'm not sure they'd look much different (sans a Monroe, maybe).


No joke. All three of Giannis, Middleton and Parker were here (well okay, Parker technically wasn't but unless you think a Herb Kohl curse would've dropped us from 2 to 4, he was for all intents and purposes a Buck) when the billionaires with a b took over.

So after those 3 and taking away draft picks (Thon might have been drafted under Hammond, Vaughn might not have, we don't really know) we can look around the fringes of the roster to see how the last year of Kohl compared to the last year of the billionaires with a b.

2016-17

Snell
Henson
Hawes
Monroe
Beasley
Teletovic
Dellavedova
Terry
Gary Payton II

2013-14

Adrien
Butler
Ilyasova
Knight
Mayo
Mitchell (I honestly have no idea who this guy is)
Neal
Pachulia
Raduljica
Ridnour
Sanders
Sessions
Stephens (No idea who this guy is either)
Udoh
Wolters
Wright (Or this guy)

There's not a whole lot of difference there so these guys are completely living off Giannis turning into a top 10 player, which they had nothing to do with and Middleton who they also had nothing to do with while completely **** up the Knight asset.
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Post#68 » by blazza18 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:27 am

Going all in on Jason Kidd is a mistake Kohl would never have done.
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Re: Your view of Bucks ownership 

Post#69 » by xTitan » Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:43 am

wisportsfan4 wrote:
tyland wrote:
bigkurty wrote:I mean you said formerly worked for.
Might be some hard feelings there.
Not sure I can trust said source.
Hell hath no fury like a former employee scorned.


As critical of the new owners I can be, I think this is also of relevance.


If only the full story could be told.


Why can't it be told?
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Re: Your view of Bucks ownership 

Post#70 » by tydett » Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:08 am

xTitan wrote:
wisportsfan4 wrote:
tyland wrote:
As critical of the new owners I can be, I think this is also of relevance.


If only the full story could be told.


Why can't it be told?


Because his connection is worried about losing his/her... oh wait.
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Post#71 » by imithanos » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:09 am

sdn40 wrote:
CountMe3Outs wrote:The new Bucks ownership has excelled far better than any locals I could imagine in facilitating the design and construction of a great new arena, and in assembling a superb business staff. We have been relieved of the perpetual uncertainty of the Bucks being swept away, Irsay-style, during the darkness of night, to another destination. We no longer are under Ted Stepien-like team rule, no matter how well-intentioned.

I’m certainly willing to to tolerate their ascent up the NBA-ownership learning curve, given their collective capabilities and resources. We need to negotiate the tunnel before we can see the light at its end.


Whatever you say Alex


I don't agree with him, but just because he has a different opinion than the majority, you don't have to label him with the biggest insult in this forum. :wink:

Speaking about Alex Lasry check the LAC. Austin Rivers may have pushed CP3 out of the team. Maybe it's rumors, but even if it isn't, just the fact that Doc gave his son that contract and may have refused the trade of Melo because of him, it's a big issue. And the fans did nothing about it, at least for the former. So when I think about Alex, whose position is more in backstage, I can expect him to remain on the Bucks for as long as he wants.

The ownership is lucky to hit the jackpot last season with Brogdon and Thon. Can you imagine how worse the future would look without them?

Like many of you already said, I'm disappointed with their decisions regarding the team itself.

One year ago, I thought we were the team with the brightest future, if we've done the right moves. Before even I knew how Brogdon or Thon would pan out. Even if I was ready to risk with Kidd for one more season. One year later, I have no faith in the ownership, I think we would be better without Kidd and his def. scheme and if anything happens, it would be cause of Giannis or more luck than plan.
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Re: Your view of Bucks ownership 

Post#72 » by Pachinko_ » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:30 am

Hey I'm not complaining, it could be Dolan
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Re: Your view of Bucks ownership 

Post#73 » by Diggr14 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:48 am

On a scale of Herb Kohl to Freeway, i’d say they are a solid Scanner Dan.



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Re: Your view of Bucks ownership 

Post#74 » by Diggr14 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:49 am

Pachinko_ wrote:Hey I'm not complaining, it could be Dolan



They are one drummer away from being a band and going full-fledged Dolan.
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Post#75 » by blazza18 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:52 am

At least Dolan seems to let the bad person he hired make all the basketball decisions.
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Post#76 » by dedned » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:30 am

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Re: Your view of Bucks ownership 

Post#77 » by Jez2983 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:42 am

sdn40 wrote:
CountMe3Outs wrote:The new Bucks ownership has excelled far better than any locals I could imagine in facilitating the design and construction of a great new arena, and in assembling a superb business staff. We have been relieved of the perpetual uncertainty of the Bucks being swept away, Irsay-style, during the darkness of night, to another destination. We no longer are under Ted Stepien-like team rule, no matter how well-intentioned.

I’m certainly willing to to tolerate their ascent up the NBA-ownership learning curve, given their collective capabilities and resources. We need to negotiate the tunnel before we can see the light at its end.


Whatever you say Alex


That dude definitely works for the Bucks.

As for the owners, I think people are still a little hung up on the current arms race in the NBA. I'd be much more encouraged if we were looking to add young talent as we haven't quite hit our window yet. As for Horst I know nothing about him so its hard to bag him yet.
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Re: Your view of Bucks ownership 

Post#78 » by randy84 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:49 am

You mean three meddling owners isn't better than one?
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Re: Your view of Bucks ownership 

Post#79 » by crkone » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:26 pm

tydett wrote:
xTitan wrote:
wisportsfan4 wrote:
If only the full story could be told.


Why can't it be told?


Because his connection is worried about losing his/her... oh wait.


Maybe an NDA?

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Re: Your view of Bucks ownership 

Post#80 » by M-C-G » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:51 pm

crkone wrote:
tydett wrote:
xTitan wrote:
Why can't it be told?


Because his connection is worried about losing his/her... oh wait.


Maybe an NDA?


NDA would fit our Bucks DNA


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