Shams: Utah and Minnesota working on deal for Rubio

Jcool0 · Post #21 » by **Jcool0** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:05 pm

MotownMadness · Post #22 » by **MotownMadness** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:05 pm

Prez wrote:
dautjazz wrote:
BadWolf wrote:What would be Minnesotas goal here? Future pick?

Our picks aren't even good. We are a top 4 team out West for the forseeable future, it's GS, SA, HOU, and UT, then the rest.

Are you that sure about Hayward?
MotownMadness wrote: Shooting is what everyone wants now or at least some sort of two way players.

Rubio is a two-way player though.

Not when defenses don't respect his shot in the slightest. Thibs ain't dumb and knows the limitations with him out there.

Bertrob · Post #23 » by **Bertrob** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:06 pm

Unless they're getting him for free, Utah is making a mistake. If this is what they're doing to make the roster look better for Hayward well....

Birdie · Post #24 » by **Birdie** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:06 pm

If MIN isn't taking any money back or just get Diaw, who they would waive, renounce Shabazz/Payne/Rush, they could offer Lowry up to 32mil/yr to start next year.

Lowry/Wiggins/Butler/KAT/Dieng

Jones, Bjelica, Aldrich on the bench

No doubt, the bench is a bit weak but damn if that's not a pretty dynamic starting lineup for Thibs.

heatwillbeback · Post #25 » by **heatwillbeback** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:07 pm

Bertrob wrote:Unless they're getting him for free, Utah is making a mistake. If this is what they're doing to make the roster look better for Hayward well....

If it's Hill or Rubio, I think Rubio is better. Hill will get paid about the same when it's all said and done.

Late first rounder to get the better player.

PurpleGreenGold · Post #26 » by **PurpleGreenGold** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:07 pm

Looks pretty official...the Jazz just give up a 2018 1st rounder, which they had two of.

Read on Twitter

Post #27 » by **kingofthecourt67** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:08 pm

Jcool0 wrote:

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Minny is giving or getting a pick?

RaptorsLife · Post #28 » by **RaptorsLife** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:09 pm

kingofthecourt67 wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:

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Minny is giving or getting a pick?

Okc2018 first round pick minny getting

chrisab123 · Post #29 » by **chrisab123** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:09 pm

Toronto should be very afraid of what's coming from this. Lowry will be a Wolf bank on it.

elBJ · Post #30 » by **elBJ** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:10 pm

dautjazz wrote:
elBJ wrote:I think he's an upgrade over G.Hill, but if Hayward leaves it's all in shambles.

Playmaking he is, but scoring Hill is way better. I'm not sure who's a better defender, I know that Rubio gets more steals, but Hill is a solid defender as well. Still Hill may get something like a 20M/year deal while Rubio is $14.5M and $14.8M the next two years.

I think he could be a slight upgrade, maybe not day1, but Rubio is 4 years younger.

Jcool0 · Post #31 » by **Jcool0** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:10 pm

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SK21209 · Post #32 » by **SK21209** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:10 pm

miamiheat319 wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:
miamiheat319 wrote:Wtf! Rubio is the ideal fit for the Wolves. I just don't understand why they're so eager to move him. They're gonna end up targeting Lowry or Hill or somebody and they'll sign somewhere else, leaving the Wolves with Tyus as their only guard. It's ridiculous. Rubio is the pass-first point guard they need in a system with three primary scorers.

Shooting is what everyone wants now or at least some sort of two way players.

They don't need more shooting atm. Rubio is the perfect fit for that team. He can distribute the ball so well to those three guys (Towns, Wiggins, Butler). They don't need a scoring point guard.

That's exactly wrong. Butler is a passable but not great 3 pt shooter. Same with Wiggins. They also don't have a credible stretch four. They really need shooting around their three core guys

Shamrock · Post #33 » by **Shamrock** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:11 pm

Lowry/Wiggins/Butler/KAT.... Not too shabby

SBM · Post #34 » by **SBM** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:13 pm

He is a upgrade over Hill because he is more healthy. Hill didn't really prove anything other than Jazz needed upgrade at PG and he wasn't it if you cared about health.

Warriorfan · Post #35 » by **Warriorfan** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:14 pm

You don't know what Hill will get paid. Rubio is younger and cost controlled plus the pick shouldn't be to high

Min has this year to use free agency to build around its core.

Romeiro Celtic · Post #36 » by **Romeiro Celtic** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:15 pm

bmurph128 wrote:Less scoring - just what the Jazz need

Loses a scorer, but gains a better passer who can set up players better on the offensive side of the floor and still a good defender. They had no clue if Hill was gonna stay or not, so they decided to move on from him instead of waiting for something they couldn't be sure of. And still, Hill's demand of sallary would be more than what Rubio gets, so it gives Utah a more comfortable position and goes younger.

Merc_Porto · Post #37 » by **Merc_Porto** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:18 pm

F*** this!!!

SBM · Post #38 » by **SBM** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:19 pm

Minny should take that pick and Dieng for Deandre Jordan.

Teague
Butler
Wiggins
KAT
Deandre Jordan

2nd best out west.

John Murdoch · Post #39 » by **John Murdoch** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:20 pm

Cmon Thibss..lets atleast see how Ricky runs the show with this new squad. He's a maestro and unbelievable player imo even despite his struggles from 3

GopherIt! · Post #40 » by **GopherIt!** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:20 pm

SK21209 wrote:
miamiheat319 wrote:
MotownMadness wrote: Shooting is what everyone wants now or at least some sort of two way players.

They don't need more shooting atm. Rubio is the perfect fit for that team. He can distribute the ball so well to those three guys (Towns, Wiggins, Butler). They don't need a scoring point guard.

That's exactly wrong. Butler is a passable but not great 3 pt shooter. Same with Wiggins. They also don't have a credible stretch four. They really need shooting around their three core guys

This x100. Wolves need the best shooting pg they can find.