2017 Nets Offseason Thread II

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Do people actually want Ingles for 4/60+?

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[Prokorov]

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Ingles is tricky. an offer of 4/60 probably doesnt beat the other 4 teams offers. 4/80 probably isnt a good idea for him at 29 years old and not really moving the needle a ton.

great fit. but id prefer olynk due to him being 4 years younger and probably cheaper. Olynk can also play center which ingles i dont think can get away with

[Keith Van Horn]

hell no to Ingles 4/60

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Ingles is tricky. an offer of 4/60 probably doesnt beat the other 4 teams offers. 4/80 probably isnt a good idea for him at 29 years old and not really moving the needle a ton.

great fit. but id prefer olynk due to him being 4 years younger and probably cheaper. Olynk can also play center which ingles i dont think can get away with

Ingles is a smarter investment than Redick who's 33. He's also a SF. Not a SG.

Ingles or Redick will be expensive. It's more or less figuring out if Utah would match with Hayward still un-signed.


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[Prokorov]

The more I look at it we 100% should be going for olynk and not ingles...


Olynk: 7'0" Just turned 26 in April

9/5/2 in 20 minutes
16/9/4 PER36

37% from three career (36% last year, 41% the year before) on 3 attempts per game
15.3 PER 60.2 TS%

1.9 DWS
+0.5 DBPM

Ingles: 6'8" Turns 30 in october

7/3/3 in 24 minutes
11/5/4 PER36

40% from three career (44% last year, 39% the year before) on 2 attempts per game
12.4 PER 60.4 TS%


Olynk is younger, Bigger/can play centers, was more productive in less minutes, and despite not shooting as well from three was more efficient and had the same TS%.

Also, olynk is not an RFA, so we wouldnt have to worry about matching.

to me Olynk is the guy we should be looking at, not ingles. i know there is alot of boston hate here but dont let that blind you. Olynk isnt some slouch he is a former lotto pick who has produced well so far.

you wont find many 7 foot 26 y ear olds who can shoot it from three and still reach 60 TS%

[Prokorov]

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Ingles is tricky. an offer of 4/60 probably doesnt beat the other 4 teams offers. 4/80 probably isnt a good idea for him at 29 years old and not really moving the needle a ton.

great fit. but id prefer olynk due to him being 4 years younger and probably cheaper. Olynk can also play center which ingles i dont think can get away with

Ingles is a smarter investment than Redick who's 33. He's also a SF. Not a SG.

Ingles or Redick will be expensive. It's more or less figuring out if Utah would match with Hayward still un-signed.


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it wouldnt be one or the other.... it would be both.

the bigger question is why chase ingles when olynk is available is better, bigger, and younger?

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Do people actually want Ingles for 4/60+?

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No particularly, as he will be 30 years old in 3 months and giving him a 4 year contract at 15 million per in a long commitment. I would much rather have reddick for the same money at 2 years, or better yet I want the Nets to go the Philly route and offer him a 1 year contract at over 20 million. The Nets already have a full roster so i don't see the nets making a lot of signings. Either one big one or one or two small ones.

[Kaiser30]

Prok, Olynyk is indeed a RFA and the Celtics have submitted their qualifying offer. On another note though, they don't seem to be hell bent on keeping Kelly at any costs because they are still lurking for bigger moves.

I wouldn't mind adding Olynyk as a bench big for something around 10-12 M per year. He certainly is a high IQ player and could fit into Kenny's system as a poor man's Al Horford.

But as mentioned before, the Nets should focus on their unrestricted targets first and only look at RFAs after the July Moratorium.


Regarding Ingles: I've been a heavy proponent of offering Ingles a deal and I'm glad Marks sees him as a great fit here as well. But if Orlando is indeed willing to pay him 60M/4y, then I happily decline and try to find the next Joe Ingles somewhere in Europe.

[Prokorov]

Prok, Olynyk is indeed a RFA and the Celtics have submitted their qualifying offer. On another note though, they don't seem to be hell bent on keeping Kelly at any costs because they are still lurking for bigger moves.

I wouldn't mind adding Olynyk as a bench big für something around 10-12 M per year. He certainly is a high IQ player and could fit into Kenny's system as a poor man's Al Horford.

But as mentioned before, the Nets should focus on their unrestricted targets first and only look at RFAs after the July Moratorium.


Regarding Ingles: I've been a heavy proponent of offering Ingles a deal and I'm glad Marks sees him as a great fit here as well. But if Orlando is indeed willing to pay him 60M/4y, then I happily decline and try to find the next Joe Ingles somewhere in Europe.

thanks for the correction...

doesnt change the situation for me though... Olynk a MUCH better choice then ingles. bigger, younger, better. and agree, celtics cant match on him... because if they match on him at 12-15M or higher they wont have room for heyward. its a great guy to target.

[Keith Van Horn]

The more I look at it we 100% should be going for olynk and not ingles...


Olynk: 7'0" Just turned 26 in April

9/5/2 in 20 minutes
16/9/4 PER36

37% from three career (36% last year, 41% the year before) on 3 attempts per game
15.3 PER 60.2 TS%

1.9 DWS
+0.5 DBPM

Ingles: 6'8" Turns 30 in october

7/3/3 in 24 minutes
11/5/4 PER36

40% from three career (44% last year, 39% the year before) on 2 attempts per game
12.4 PER 60.4 TS%


Olynk is younger, Bigger/can play centers, was more productive in less minutes, and despite not shooting as well from three was more efficient and had the same TS%.

Also, olynk is not an RFA, so we wouldnt have to worry about matching.

to me Olynk is the guy we should be looking at, not ingles. i know there is alot of boston hate here but dont let that blind you. Olynk isnt some slouch he is a former lotto pick who has produced well so far.

you wont find many 7 foot 26 y ear olds who can shoot it from three and still reach 60 TS%

actually agree. He'd be a good backup plan if we don't get Redick. He does fill a lot of gaps we have.

[Prokorov]

inlges is a bad idea. even at 15 million. if he was a UFA we could get on a 2 year deal or for 10-12 million sure.

he is going to be 30 before the season starts

[Prokorov]

If we could get Reddick for 2/32 and Olynk for 4/60 that would give us the best spacing in the league outside GSW/Cle

any time you had russell, reddick, and olynk on the floor you would put defneses in a tough spot. dlo and reddick both can shoot off screens so you have to switch/trap them off ball and then olynk draws a big away as well

Lin/Levert/RHJ would have a filed day at the rim

[Kaiser30]

thanks for the correction...

doesnt change the situation for me though... Olynk a MUCH better choice then ingles. bigger, younger, better. and agree, celtics cant match on him... because if they match on him at 12-15M or higher they wont have room for heyward. its a great guy to target.

The thing is, Boston probably doesn't need to make a decision on Olynyk until after Hayward's decision. If Hayward agrees to come to Boston, they will probably make Olynyk an unrestricted free agent. If not, what is Boston's plan B? Maybe they decide to keep Olynyk in the meantime as I think a big with his skill set will always be a coveted bench player with some trade value.

[Paradise]

Ingles is tricky. an offer of 4/60 probably doesnt beat the other 4 teams offers. 4/80 probably isnt a good idea for him at 29 years old and not really moving the needle a ton.

great fit. but id prefer olynk due to him being 4 years younger and probably cheaper. Olynk can also play center which ingles i dont think can get away with

Ingles is a smarter investment than Redick who's 33. He's also a SF. Not a SG.

Ingles or Redick will be expensive. It's more or less figuring out if Utah would match with Hayward still un-signed.


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it wouldnt be one or the other.... it would be both.

the bigger question is why chase ingles when olynk is available is better, bigger, and younger?

We're looking for one of each need. I don't see anywhere saying we intend on signing Redick/Ingles/KCP. A shooter, defender and big man. We're not likely to sign two shooters to the same bench role.

Olynyk will be pursued but we're not in any hurry to go after him right now considering Boston will have to let him walk for any combo of Hayward + UFA signing.


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[Prokorov]

The more I look at it we 100% should be going for olynk and not ingles...


Olynk: 7'0" Just turned 26 in April

9/5/2 in 20 minutes
16/9/4 PER36

37% from three career (36% last year, 41% the year before) on 3 attempts per game
15.3 PER 60.2 TS%

1.9 DWS
+0.5 DBPM

Ingles: 6'8" Turns 30 in october

7/3/3 in 24 minutes
11/5/4 PER36

40% from three career (44% last year, 39% the year before) on 2 attempts per game
12.4 PER 60.4 TS%


Olynk is younger, Bigger/can play centers, was more productive in less minutes, and despite not shooting as well from three was more efficient and had the same TS%.

Also, olynk is not an RFA, so we wouldnt have to worry about matching.

to me Olynk is the guy we should be looking at, not ingles. i know there is alot of boston hate here but dont let that blind you. Olynk isnt some slouch he is a former lotto pick who has produced well so far.

you wont find many 7 foot 26 y ear olds who can shoot it from three and still reach 60 TS%

actually agree. He'd be a good backup plan if we don't get Redick. He does fill a lot of gaps we have.

he woudnt need to be in place of reddick. we could get both

[Prokorov]

Ingles is a smarter investment than Redick who's 33. He's also a SF. Not a SG.

Ingles or Redick will be expensive. It's more or less figuring out if Utah would match with Hayward still un-signed.


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it wouldnt be one or the other.... it would be both.

the bigger question is why chase ingles when olynk is available is better, bigger, and younger?

We're looking for one of each need. I don't see anywhere saying we intend on signing Redick/Ingles/KCP. A shooter, defender and big man. We're not likely to sign two shooters to the same bench role.

Olynyk will be pursued but we're not in any hurry to go after him right now considering Boston will have to let him walk for any combo of Hayward + UFA signing.


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we cant sign KCP and someone else. he would eat up nearly all our cap.

[Papi_swav]

All the stars went out west, I think Nets have a chance at top 5 seed in the East next year.

Are you expecting us to sign hordon heyward or something?

30-35 wins doesnt get a 5 seed no matter how bad the east is

Why you always got to ruin the joke

[Papi_swav]

I don't want either Ingles or Olynk, give me James Johnson.

[vincecarter4pres]

I really am starting to sour on all FA's unless the plan is Porter as a small ball 4. Lin/Russell is reportedly our backcourt, meaning LeVert is the starting 3. We have a relatively strong and cheap bench and next year no one of importance up for a new contract accept possibly Lin, meaning we'll still be players next summer and all this year, in free agency or trade, respectively.

Let it play out as is for now unless a great trade comes up. Maybe even something solid like Danny Green and a pick for Goodwin/Harris/cap space.

Ingles doesn't move the needle. Olynick is solid, but more center than power forward. Gallo would actually make sense but he's always injured, older and wants 4 years and $80 to $95 million. Redick wants to start.

Stand pat. No value contracts which clog the cap long term. Redick would be nice even for 2 years and $40+ million, but again, he wants to start and cannot start at the 3.

I'll trust Marks, but I don't see value for us in FA unless Washington were bluffing and let Porter walk.

Please no to KCP.