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DarkXaero wrote:I'm bracing myself for us to offer the same max deal to Porter and him actually accepting it over Kings offer sheet.
Yea, I think after the Russell trade and Allen pick, the 4 is our most obvious need. I see RHJ's future as a sixth man, high energy guy, not as a starter unless he improves his offense drastically. After Lin likely leaves after the coming season, we'll need a PG or a SF, depending on where Russell's future is. I do really like JaMychal Green as a RFA target if the contract is reasonable. He's a modern PF in this league and that makes him pretty valuable. I'm sure he's on our radar.vincecarter4pres wrote:I just don't know if I see the point in going after a pure wing for big money for us, unless it's a star and unreasonable get, like a Gordon Hayward.
If things actually workout development-wise for our most important young guys, chances are Russell and LeVert are the permanent/long term starting 2 and 3's. Allen the 5. The jury is out on RHJ if he stays the starting 4 beyond this season and although Lin is not actually old, he is older and there's a good chance he walks after this season.
So the big target is a modern 4, who can switch on D to perimeter players and eventually, maybe next summer, a long term solution at the point if Lin is elsewhere.
That is why to me, the ONLY restricted free agents who are worth signing this summer for us, are Otto Porter and JaMychal Green.
Green is actually REALLY interesting and we haven't discussed him much at all. He could easily make a statistical jump just by being in this system, at this pace, if given minutes in the low 30's. Say an impactful 14/9/2/1/1 kind of guy who is efficient and fits in seamlessly. I actually like the idea of him a lot.
DarkXaero wrote:Yea, I think after the Russell trade and Allen pick, the 4 is our most obvious need. I see RHJ's future as a sixth man, high energy guy, not as a starter unless he improves his offense drastically. After Lin likely leaves after the coming season, we'll need a PG or a SF, depending on where Russell's future is. I do really like JaMychal Green as a RFA target if the contract is reasonable. He's a modern PF in this league and that makes him pretty valuable. I'm sure he's on our radar.vincecarter4pres wrote:I just don't know if I see the point in going after a pure wing for big money for us, unless it's a star and unreasonable get, like a Gordon Hayward.
If things actually workout development-wise for our most important young guys, chances are Russell and LeVert are the permanent/long term starting 2 and 3's. Allen the 5. The jury is out on RHJ if he stays the starting 4 beyond this season and although Lin is not actually old, he is older and there's a good chance he walks after this season.
So the big target is a modern 4, who can switch on D to perimeter players and eventually, maybe next summer, a long term solution at the point if Lin is elsewhere.
That is why to me, the ONLY restricted free agents who are worth signing this summer for us, are Otto Porter and JaMychal Green.
Green is actually REALLY interesting and we haven't discussed him much at all. He could easily make a statistical jump just by being in this system, at this pace, if given minutes in the low 30's. Say an impactful 14/9/2/1/1 kind of guy who is efficient and fits in seamlessly. I actually like the idea of him a lot.
Rich Rane wrote:I think we're all missing the point here. vc4pres needs to stop watching games.
vincecarter4pres wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:624 wrote:Sacramento offered the Porter the max. We're out of that sweepstakes. Probably good for us
Actually he still has to accept Sac. Maybe he would accept ours instead
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Makes for sense to Otto Porter to sign the max offer sheet for us rather than Sacramento.
No doubt were going to offer the same thing.
Brooklyn is a much better place to play than Sac. Also its going to be much easier to play in the East. And Porter would fit with us a little better.
The one thing I didn't think of when I made that other post, maybe Porter really does want out of Washington and does want Sacto, so he hasn't signed the sheet yet hoping the two teams can workout a S&T?
Hope not, but that could be it.
DarkXaero wrote:Yea, I think after the Russell trade and Allen pick, the 4 is our most obvious need. I see RHJ's future as a sixth man, high energy guy, not as a starter unless he improves his offense drastically. After Lin likely leaves after the coming season, we'll need a PG or a SF, depending on where Russell's future is. I do really like JaMychal Green as a RFA target if the contract is reasonable. He's a modern PF in this league and that makes him pretty valuable. I'm sure he's on our radar.vincecarter4pres wrote:I just don't know if I see the point in going after a pure wing for big money for us, unless it's a star and unreasonable get, like a Gordon Hayward.
If things actually workout development-wise for our most important young guys, chances are Russell and LeVert are the permanent/long term starting 2 and 3's. Allen the 5. The jury is out on RHJ if he stays the starting 4 beyond this season and although Lin is not actually old, he is older and there's a good chance he walks after this season.
So the big target is a modern 4, who can switch on D to perimeter players and eventually, maybe next summer, a long term solution at the point if Lin is elsewhere.
That is why to me, the ONLY restricted free agents who are worth signing this summer for us, are Otto Porter and JaMychal Green.
Green is actually REALLY interesting and we haven't discussed him much at all. He could easily make a statistical jump just by being in this system, at this pace, if given minutes in the low 30's. Say an impactful 14/9/2/1/1 kind of guy who is efficient and fits in seamlessly. I actually like the idea of him a lot.
We made an offer for Marvin Williams last summer, JaMychal Green is a somewhat similar player with his size, productivity, and ability to shoot 3s. Green had a super efficient season, posting a TS% of 60.1%. He shot well from 3 pt (although on low volume), he's a good FT shooter, and shoots over 50% from the field overall.Born_Ready wrote:DarkXaero wrote:Yea, I think after the Russell trade and Allen pick, the 4 is our most obvious need. I see RHJ's future as a sixth man, high energy guy, not as a starter unless he improves his offense drastically. After Lin likely leaves after the coming season, we'll need a PG or a SF, depending on where Russell's future is. I do really like JaMychal Green as a RFA target if the contract is reasonable. He's a modern PF in this league and that makes him pretty valuable. I'm sure he's on our radar.vincecarter4pres wrote:I just don't know if I see the point in going after a pure wing for big money for us, unless it's a star and unreasonable get, like a Gordon Hayward.
If things actually workout development-wise for our most important young guys, chances are Russell and LeVert are the permanent/long term starting 2 and 3's. Allen the 5. The jury is out on RHJ if he stays the starting 4 beyond this season and although Lin is not actually old, he is older and there's a good chance he walks after this season.
So the big target is a modern 4, who can switch on D to perimeter players and eventually, maybe next summer, a long term solution at the point if Lin is elsewhere.
That is why to me, the ONLY restricted free agents who are worth signing this summer for us, are Otto Porter and JaMychal Green.
Green is actually REALLY interesting and we haven't discussed him much at all. He could easily make a statistical jump just by being in this system, at this pace, if given minutes in the low 30's. Say an impactful 14/9/2/1/1 kind of guy who is efficient and fits in seamlessly. I actually like the idea of him a lot.
One could only hope that Green is on the Nets radar. If the Nets have done their research they will see that JaMychal fits the "grit" culture. He's a younger and meaner version of Trevor Booker, but I think he's better in space than Booker. Not sure what he shot from the field % wise- but he plays with a chip on his shoulder so to speak and this roster needs more types that carry such characteristics.
DarkXaero wrote:We made an offer for Marvin Williams last summer, JaMychal Green is a somewhat similar player with his size, productivity, and ability to shoot 3s. Green had a super efficient season, posting a TS% of 60.1%. He shot well from 3 pt (although on low volume), he's a good FT shooter, and shoots over 50% from the field overall.Born_Ready wrote:DarkXaero wrote:Yea, I think after the Russell trade and Allen pick, the 4 is our most obvious need. I see RHJ's future as a sixth man, high energy guy, not as a starter unless he improves his offense drastically. After Lin likely leaves after the coming season, we'll need a PG or a SF, depending on where Russell's future is. I do really like JaMychal Green as a RFA target if the contract is reasonable. He's a modern PF in this league and that makes him pretty valuable. I'm sure he's on our radar.
One could only hope that Green is on the Nets radar. If the Nets have done their research they will see that JaMychal fits the "grit" culture. He's a younger and meaner version of Trevor Booker, but I think he's better in space than Booker. Not sure what he shot from the field % wise- but he plays with a chip on his shoulder so to speak and this roster needs more types that carry such characteristics.
DarkXaero wrote:I'll take that, he only has one more fully guaranteed season. There's no use for him on the court for us but I'll do it for the pick.
Rich Rane wrote:I think we're all missing the point here. vc4pres needs to stop watching games.
Prokorov wrote:steady wrote:Kaiser30 wrote:Doesn't mean he has accepted their offer sheet and couldn't prefer a max offer sheet with the Nets.
Nevertheless, I don't really want to chase Porter when he's 99.9 % getting matched.
And what would be the point of offering the sheet now when the 48 hr clock won't start running until 7/6 anyway. .??
Let Sac do this and tie up a big chunk of their cap. Space - it only. Akers Nets remaining cap space that much more valuable
Because they probably wanted to beat the nets to an offer sheet. once porter signs an offer sheet he is off the market.
"tying up cap space" i dont think is really an issue. there really arent many/any key free agents left and those guys probably wont go until the RFA market settles anyway. which is why you havent heard any offers linked to patterson, olynk, ilyasova, mirotic. those guys are plan B for teams th at miss on RFAs or lose their own RFAs
CalamityX12 wrote:damn missed out on TJ... oh well, like him at Minny.
(although I felt disappointed with his short OKC stint)
Prokorov wrote:The raptors owner came out and said he wold go into the luxury tax if needed.
Carroll isnt some huge albatross of a contract. 2 years 30 million for a useful 2 way guy?
We would get EITHER a first or one of there ok prospects (Poetl, Bruno, Noguiera). not both. probable a prospect or firsrt rounder and then a second rounder.
We arent dealing with Magic anymore. we wont be able to fleece masai. in fact he is probably looking to see if he can more carroll without giving up an asset at all. calling all the sucker GMs first
