Official Melo Trade Thread: WOJ BOMB UPDATE PG 21: Will Waive NTC for HOU and CLE

[Wolfgang630]

I wish we could flip him but on second thought ainge is a cheapo so screw him let him draft those 100 draft picks.

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That's definitely the biggest worry. Cheap ass won't trade a pick from what it seems like. Idk I feel we have to do it and see if he changes his mind. Maybe he will get more pressure because he has a solid team.

I think he's worried about gsw and is trying to wait till curry turns 40 by than he will have 1k lottery to find his superteam.

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I know by the time Curry turns 40 he'll have the 2030 draft to himself lol

[No-Man]

Houston is impossible, they aren't gonna pay up for unloading Ryno and getting Melo, like 2 1st round picks, and they are a worse team if they give NY Ariza&Gordon for Melo, Ariza was a big deal for CP3 to sign there also, and then there is the D'Antoni factor.

It makes no sense.

Cleveland does, not for Love ofc, but they can add Osman if signed for 2-3m$ as part of the tax payer MLE, Felder, and Frye+Shump and that works $$ wise, Frye as a big that can shoot and doesn't have an awful contract is easily moveable by NY to a 3rd team, might be able to get something for him too, Shump can be moved as well.

Not saying it will happen, but that's easily the most realistic option out there right now, maybe the Cavs will include a future asset too, not sure about 1st round pick, but maybe some 2nds, although they don't have all of theirs.

That return will be fine by me, NY needs to lose and the tank race in the East is tough, with Melo you are winning 35 games and getting the 9-10th pick, Indiana, Chicago, Atlanta and Brooklyn are gonna be so trash that if you want a shot at a top5 pick you need to unload him.

Getting Osman, Felder, cap relief, maybe something of some value for Frye and Shump... that'd do it.

[Jimmit79]

That's definitely the biggest worry. Cheap ass won't trade a pick from what it seems like. Idk I feel we have to do it and see if he changes his mind. Maybe he will get more pressure because he has a solid team.

I think he's worried about gsw and is trying to wait till curry turns 40 by than he will have 1k lottery to find his superteam.

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I know by the time Curry turns 40 he'll have the 2030 draft to himself lol

That would be hilarious he will need 4 summer league teams fight off to win spots on roster.

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[NBA Fan 1234]

To the people who keep saying "I wonder how Melo fans will feel about this," y'all do realize that basically EVERYONE wants to trade Melo, right? Nobody is saying "build around him" or "don't trade him" - that's a strawman argument made up to put down those who aren't anti-Melo.

Anyways, do not turn this isn't a bash Melo fan thread. We're all Knicks fans and want what's best for the FRANCHISE, not any one player.

Also, Houston probably won't trade Ariza who apparently helped get Paul there OR Capella, who is their starting C...so...the pipe dreams can stop. We'd be getting Anderson, young players, and 2 firsts if it happens - I think we'd need a third team, because I can't see Mills wanting to get rid of Melo but accept Anderson's horrid contract without a bunch of assets coming back. That's a special kind of stupid, like cutting your nose to spite your face.

[camillepd]

The Knicks will get Love from the Cavs.

[JM88]

Chris Hayes on ESPN says cavs are willing to move love for Melo

So where does Love then land? I don't want him here.

I'm sure you can atleast move Love for expiring contract and a pick

Or we could keep Love until at least the trade deadline. Not helpful for tanking, but he is not the kind of player that elevates the team out of the lottery. The bonus will be, that i think his stats would increase into pretty much his Minny stats, and likely increase his value.

My preference would be to move him immediately if we can get some decent value return. But even if that is not possible, i would be thrilled, for the reasons stated above, if we got Love for Melo.

[No-Man]

The Knicks will get Love from the Cavs.

Oh I sure hope so, but that'd be beyond moronic for Cleveland.

I read the report, I just don't think it makes much sense, Cleveland needs both Love and Melo to have a chance at a ring and they actually have the better offer for Melo even without Love, unless Houston includes 2 1sts+Anderson, which probably isn't realistic, soooo... why would they give up Love?

[Mecca]

I'm sorry a lot of you guys simply don't get it.

The only series that matter for Cleveland is the FINALS vs. GSW. Love has been mediocre in consecutive finals appearances..

Melo is a better matchup vs. Golden State. He can slow the game down, get a bucket late on his own, and play off drive and kicks from Bron/Kyrie

[Clyde Frazier]

Read on Twitter

This guy is such a **** tool.

[mpharris36]

on Clutchfans the rockets man insider who seems pretty reputable seems like its either going to be Melo to HOU or Love to HOU in a multi player trade. I have to assume in that case pick(s) or Capella or some kind of package including anderson go to another team.

[FemaleDogPlease]

Knicks aren't getting Love. If Love was offered Melo would have already been traded.

Cleveland is probably offering trash and future picks.

[thebuzzardman]

Welp, it boils down to Melo going to 2 destinations neither of which are really great for the Knicks.

Houston: Anderson = cap hell, Houston probably doesn't deal 2 #1's, so that deal sucks
Cleveland: Won't deal Love (doesn't make sense); I wouldn't WANT Love (unless flipped to Boston; doubtful) and Cleveland would then have to offer a bag of it's misfit toys, some with years on their contract (Shump 2 years). Osman would be interesting - is he really any better than Kuz though?

*edit
I flip flop on Anderson because IF Houston offers the 2020/2022 picks, the 2nd one, even if lottery protected, should maybe be just outside the lottery/decent, and that's not a bad grab for Melo. But it replaces Melos cap space and extends it another year, getting in the way of the Knicks being able to take on smaller pieces for picks, not unlike the supposed TWoves offer of OKC #1 for that ex knick stiff C whose name I can't remember right now (more coffee!)
Not that the Knicks can't make that deal swapping Melo for Anderson, just reduces a year of that sort of flexibility in the future.

[nedleeds]

If they give us Gordon and Ariza we run and we run fast lol. They would have terrible surrounding pieces.

They wouldn't trade those two players because they are better than Melo. Ariza can shoot and play defense. Gordon is a better shooter and will actually come off the bench without crying about it. It's a bad trade for them, and those 2 combined make less than Melo.

[mpharris36]

Knicks aren't getting Love. If Love was offered Melo would have already been traded.

Cleveland is probably offering trash and future picks.

I think a 3rd team is a little harder to find or even a 4th team. Denver was interested in Love they now have Milsap so that idea is out the window.

I think CLE would trade Love for Melo if they can get an additional asset back (maybe a bench player) to better round out there roster. Maybe something along the lines of KOQ a good backup big.

[F N 11]

The people that didn't want to trade Melo for nothing will be upset. However This is the reality. We would be blessed to get back something good.

[Wolfgang630]

Why wouldn't Cleveland trade Love for Melo? What if the Knicks gave them another player along with Melo?

[thebuzzardman]

Why wouldn't Cleveland trade Love for Melo? What if the Knicks gave them another player along with Melo?

Love: Shoots from the outside, like Melo. Can post up, something Melo doesn't do anymore. Rebounds better than Melo at PF, which is what Melo is now and is 5 years younger. Any other questions?

[No-Man]

Osman would be interesting - is he really any better than Kuz though?

Yes, he can actually play D

[Billy Goat]

Why wouldn't Cleveland trade Love for Melo? What if the Knicks gave them another player along with Melo?

Unless Bron's just being Bron, I dont see how swapping Love for Melo improves them at all. Love has a specific role there while Melo would just be another guy camping out on the wing while Lebron drives. They just brought back Korver and JR got a deal last year to do the same thing...

[mpharris36]

Why wouldn't Cleveland trade Love for Melo? What if the Knicks gave them another player along with Melo?

earlier it was probably CLE as the only team Melo would waive his NTC. So CLE didn't have to compete against anyone. Now that HOU is in the picture and both teams can't really improve outside of trading for Melo at this point. We can pin both teams against each other and try to pry as much value as possible.

This has been the situation we have been hoping for for a few months now.