Trade Ideas thread

[Biggsohnasty]

Yeah his contract is pretty ugly. Didn't realize just how bad that was.

Though I'd still argue that he could help this team a heck of a lot more than Aldrich. Plus if the team is gearing up for a big 2019 summer, his expiring contract could be valuable at said time. It might look bad now but it doesn't necessarily hinder team from making moves and when it's an expiring, it could be a movable piece.

[Krapinsky]

Aldrich for Knight doesn't work unless we're adding more salary some how.

I don't think Aldrich for Lee works either based on the cap numbers I am looking at post Teague + Gibson signings.

[the_bruce]

ind in: aldrich, bjelica, okc pick
ind out: stephenson, big al

min in: stephenson, big al
min out: aldrich, bjelica, okc pick

ind cuts salary next season and grabs a pick for next season

min upgrades players with contracts that fit into 2 year timeline, stephenson played a bit for thibs last season, but was mostly injured during his tenure. Neither are "ideal" fits, but have decent contracts. Adding the pick might not be necessary as this trade cuts 2m this season and 12m next.

towns/al/patton
gibson/dieng
butler/stephenson
wiggins
teague/jones

[shrink]

Thibs may be on a two year plan. Two years left on Jimmy Butler, signed Taj for two years (may have paid a little more to keep the deal short, and Teague has two guaranteed years, and a player option to get out on Year 3. If things don't go well, and Jimmy wants out, Thibs may want to clear the boards and rebuild around Wiggins and Towns.

So find me a shooter, on a two year deal, who makes less than $12.3 mil next year?

[moss_is_1]

ind in: aldrich, bjelica, okc pick
ind out: stephenson, big al

min in: stephenson, big al
min out: aldrich, bjelica, okc pick

ind cuts salary next season and grabs a pick for next season

min upgrades players with contracts that fit into 2 year timeline, stephenson played a bit for thibs last season, but was mostly injured during his tenure. Neither are "ideal" fits, but have decent contracts. Adding the pick might not be necessary as this trade cuts 2m this season and 12m next.

towns/al/patton
gibson/dieng
butler/stephenson
wiggins
teague/jones

Huge pass. I'd rather have Belly than either of those guys, and not going to add the pick.

[the_bruce]

Thibs may be on a two year plan. Two years left on Jimmy Butler, signed Taj for two years (may have paid a little more to keep the deal short, and Teague has two guaranteed years, and a player option to get out on Year 3. If things don't go well, and Jimmy wants out, Thibs may want to clear the boards and rebuild around Wiggins and Towns.

So find me a shooter, on a two year deal, who makes less than $12.3 mil next year?

Jeremy Lin is the only contract I can think of that fits that description.

[moss_is_1]

So find me a shooter, on a two year deal, who makes less than $12.3 mil next year?

Terrence Ross - $10,500,000 - $10,500,000 - 37% career from 3 on 4.5 attempts
Wilson Chandler - $12,016,854 $12,800,562 - would be hard to get, not a great shooter either.
Danny Green - $10,000,000 - $10,000,000 - 3 and D
Austin Rivers - $11,825,000 $12,650,000 - puke 37% from 3 on 4 attempts last year.
Al Farouq Aminu - $7,319,035 $6,957,105 - would be a dream, only 33% from 3 though.
Iman Shumpert - $10,337,079 $11,011,236 - only 34% for his career, good defender at least.
Garrett Temple - $8,000,000 $8,000,000 - 37% from 3
Jared Dudley - $10,000,000 $9,530,000 - almost 40% for his career
Lance Thomas - $6,655,325 $7,119,650 $7,583,975(unguaranteed, not sure how much) - shot 40 and 44% the last 2 years, solid role player.

not a real big list of guys that I found. Could probably get some of those in an Aldrich + OKC 1st deal if you needed to.

[esm1885]

So find me a shooter, on a two year deal, who makes less than $12.3 mil next year?

Terrence Ross - $10,500,000 - $10,500,000 - 37% career from 3 on 4.5 attempts
Wilson Chandler - $12,016,854 $12,800,562 - would be hard to get, not a great shooter either.
Danny Green - $10,000,000 - $10,000,000 - 3 and D
Austin Rivers - $11,825,000 $12,650,000 - puke 37% from 3 on 4 attempts last year.
Al Farouq Aminu - $7,319,035 $6,957,105 - would be a dream, only 33% from 3 though.
Iman Shumpert - $10,337,079 $11,011,236 - only 34% for his career, good defender at least.
Garrett Temple - $8,000,000 $8,000,000 - 37% from 3
Jared Dudley - $10,000,000 $9,530,000 - almost 40% for his career
Lance Thomas - $6,655,325 $7,119,650 $7,583,975(unguaranteed, not sure how much) - shot 40 and 44% the last 2 years, solid role player.

not a real big list of guys that I found. Could probably get some of those in an Aldrich + OKC 1st deal if you needed to.

http://wizofawes.com/2016/08/28/washington-wizards-garrett-temple-sacramento-kings-culture-change/

Wee piece I found on Temple - great locker room guy, was just voted vice president of NBA players association, can defend and hit the 3 off the bench. Could maybe get him for Aldrich + 2 2nds, and save the OKC 1st for another move possibly?

[shrink]

So find me a shooter, on a two year deal, who makes less than $12.3 mil next year?

Terrence Ross - $10,500,000 - $10,500,000 - 37% career from 3 on 4.5 attempts
Wilson Chandler - $12,016,854 $12,800,562 - would be hard to get, not a great shooter either.
Danny Green - $10,000,000 - $10,000,000 - 3 and D
Austin Rivers - $11,825,000 $12,650,000 - puke 37% from 3 on 4 attempts last year.
Al Farouq Aminu - $7,319,035 $6,957,105 - would be a dream, only 33% from 3 though.
Iman Shumpert - $10,337,079 $11,011,236 - only 34% for his career, good defender at least.
Garrett Temple - $8,000,000 $8,000,000 - 37% from 3
Jared Dudley - $10,000,000 $9,530,000 - almost 40% for his career
Lance Thomas - $6,655,325 $7,119,650 $7,583,975(unguaranteed, not sure how much) - shot 40 and 44% the last 2 years, solid role player.

not a real big list of guys that I found. Could probably get some of those in an Aldrich + OKC 1st deal if you needed to.

Great list Moss! Now that I see this, I am optimistic, because I realize that many of these players got three year deals in last year's free agency, so they are often overpaid. A team might just want to get off the contract, and be willing to swap with Aldrich straight up, since he is only guaranteed $9.3 mil, and is mostly an expiring.

Can I ask how you came up with this list? In the past, I would have used storyteller's salary list, which would allow you to scroll through one page that had every team, and every contract on it. Now storyteller is gone, and I'd have to individually look at all 30. Did you do this from memory, or dig through each team, or have a better way to scan the entire nba?

[Streakers33]

Dieng and okc first for Bradley and crowder
Patton, Cole can play back up bigs
Bjelica and euro guy can do back up pf also.


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[KGdaBom]

Dieng and okc first for Bradley and crowder
Patton, Cole can play back up bigs
Bjelica and euro guy can do back up pf also.


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No way in hell is happens but I would love it.

[shrink]

Wilson Chandler - $12,016,854 $12,800,562 (po) - would be hard to get, not a great shooter either.

DEN is trying to get cap space to sign George Hill, and a straight swap for Aldrich would clear $4.7. It would also remove the uncertainty of whether Chandler was going to use his player option next year, when so many other DEN contracts expire. Plus, they are loaded with wing talent, so they wouldn't feel the loss.

I've never been a Wilson Chandler fan, and we may want a more 3-and-d guy than a scorer, but since Thibs doesn't use deep rotation, we do need a higher-level rotation player like Chandler.

[Streakers33]

Dieng and okc first for Bradley and crowder
Patton, Cole can play back up bigs
Bjelica and euro guy can do back up pf also.


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No way in hell is happens but I would love it.

We would need to add more ?


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[Worm Guts]

Dieng and okc first for Bradley and crowder
Patton, Cole can play back up bigs
Bjelica and euro guy can do back up pf also.


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No way in hell is happens but I would love it.

We would need to add more ?


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I don't think it's what they're looking for. They are looking for cap space.

[Streakers33]

Does Ricky to Utah trade create a trade exception?


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[Streakers33]

No way in hell is happens but I would love it.

We would need to add more ?


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I don't think it's what they're looking for. They are looking for cap space.

So they add another player. And we send cole to Atlanta to create the room for the player. ?


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[KGdaBom]

Dieng and okc first for Bradley and crowder
Patton, Cole can play back up bigs
Bjelica and euro guy can do back up pf also.


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No way in hell is happens but I would love it.

We would need to add more ?


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Avery Bradley is IMO a strong starting caliber wing that plays very good defense. Crowder is a good all around 3-4 on a sensational contract. Dieng is a good all around 4-5 on an OK contract. I think they can get a lot more than Dieng and a late first.

[Worm Guts]

Does Ricky to Utah trade create a trade exception?


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I don't really know trade exceptions that well, but I would assume it would have to.

[Neeva]

Bradley is undersized
Good shooter and good defensively though and overachiever like most of Bostons current lineup.

No way in hell is happens but I would love it.

We would need to add more ?


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Avery Bradley is IMO a strong starting caliber wing that plays very good defense. Crowder is a good all around 3-4 on a sensational contract. Dieng is a good all around 4-5 on an OK contract. I think they can get a lot more than Dieng and a late first.

[shrink]

Does Ricky to Utah trade create a trade exception?

No. An exception is created to allow a team over the cap to complete a trade in the future. We were under the cap, so we got cap space.

Another way to think of it, is that a TPE carries a cap hold. If we had $24 mil in cap space, and traded Ricky for a $14 mil TPE, we'd would still only have $24 mil in cap space. Instead, we receive cap space, which is added to bring us to $38.