Where is Jahlil Okafor?

[MR28]

Has anyone noticed Nurkic's success after being traded from Denver to Portland? Could be the same kind of situation for Okafor. For all the posters that want to give away Okafor or even just cut him, you are crazy.

Exactly. A couple "Sixers Twitter" guys went forward with this "Okafor sucks" narrative and a bunch of fans mindlessly followed along with it. It's hilarious.

Yeah. That's why people think he sucks.

[TTP]

Has anyone noticed Nurkic's success after being traded from Denver to Portland? Could be the same kind of situation for Okafor. For all the posters that want to give away Okafor or even just cut him, you are crazy.

Exactly. A couple "Sixers Twitter" guys went forward with this "Okafor sucks" narrative and a bunch of fans mindlessly followed along with it. It's hilarious.

Wait this is what you believe?

All of the data indicates that Okafor has been awful - there's no mindless following. Nurkic had good advanced stats in Denver. Okafor's have been amongst the worst in the league both years.

[the_process]

Has anyone noticed Nurkic's success after being traded from Denver to Portland? Could be the same kind of situation for Okafor. For all the posters that want to give away Okafor or even just cut him, you are crazy.

Exactly. A couple "Sixers Twitter" guys went forward with this "Okafor sucks" narrative and a bunch of fans mindlessly followed along with it. It's hilarious.

Nurkic is a good defender. Also a good rebounder. Things you need from the C spot in the modern NBA. The offense Nurkic showed is a huge bonus.

What Nurkic did with his opportunity weighs exactly zero on what the Sixers will or should get for Okafor.

[sixers hoops]

Has anyone noticed Nurkic's success after being traded from Denver to Portland? Could be the same kind of situation for Okafor. For all the posters that want to give away Okafor or even just cut him, you are crazy.

Exactly. A couple "Sixers Twitter" guys went forward with this "Okafor sucks" narrative and a bunch of fans mindlessly followed along with it. It's hilarious.

Lol. What has he done well?

He can't defend. He can't pass. He's a poor rebounder. He has been an inefficient scorer because he doesn't fit well in an offense that thrives on pace.

Okafor's best asset was his polished post-game coming out of college. In the NBA, he hasn't been able to score efficiently. I think he looks short, slow, and heavy playing center in the pros. His shot always gets blocked. He can't get boards. He can't pass out of doubles.

I was so impressed with his post game coming out of college, I wonder if he could excel with Simmons at point surrounded by shooters. Maybe his knee feels better. He gets in better shape. And creates some value for himself. Prob not tho.

[eagereyez]

Okafor was never out of shape to begin with.

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You can look at his workout pics from last year to see that he wasn't out of shape then either. He is just a low endurance athlete. I wasn't surprised when he was still a slow dude with low energy last year, and I won't be surprised when he's still a slow dude with low energy next year. Expecting him to make serious improvements to his endurance is like expecting McConnell to develop a 42" vert. Any improvement Okafor makes will be modest at best.

[Chris76]

Okafor was never out of shape to begin with.

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You can look at his workout pics from last year to see that he wasn't out of shape then either. He is just a low endurance athlete. I wasn't surprised when he was still a slow dude with low energy last year, and I won't be surprised when he's still a slow dude with low energy next year. Expecting him to make serious improvements to his endurance is like expecting McConnell to develop a 42" vert. Any improvement Okafor makes will be modest as best.

It's easy to say Okafor can't improve, everyone will agree. However, he has shown an elite offensive game with shot creating skills in the post, that are almost unstoppable. He was getting his shot blocked, so he started dunking at the rim. Not sure why he stopped, knee injury, trade talks, but he definitely regressed. Anyway, he has had an offseason to work on his weaknesses, team defense, rebounding, and better fitness. If he improves he and Embiid could be a strong center rotation. For 20 mins a game, he could be a great backup. He has played well in games, for example, he crushed Gortat scoring several baskets in a row, small sample size. Anyway, with an old Amir Johnson signing it looks like his time with the Sixers is over, but I wouldn't be surprised if you see him become an asset for another team.

[sixers78]

Send him to the Atlanta Hawks

[Embiid P]

Picking Okafor was obviously Hinkie's biggest mistake during his time here as GM, but fortunately he acquired enough assets long-term to lessen the blow of at least one of his high picks busting.

Unfortunately for Okafor and his supporters, he has no future here, as the drafting of Pasecniks and the signing of Johnson are the final nails in the coffin. Given that BC was unable to move him on draft night, I imagine that his value is negative around the league. Thus he may either be forced to release Okafor or surrender an asset just for another team to take him.

Like any bad relationship, it's time to cut our losses and move on.

[76ciology]

Oversupply of passable centers. Valanciunas can now be had for something cheap. Overpay a center and you'll just lower your team's upside.

Even if Okafor lives up to his potential and we didn't select Embiid, i'm 100% sure he's going to be traded. Better pay 20-30M for a perimeter player like Redick then sign Amir, Javale McGee or Dedmon, or select Zizic, Jordan Bell or Abebayo with a low 1st or 2nd round.

Look at how the Kings is finally looking to be in the right direction by going away from heavy focus on DMC (center) and shifting to a more perimeter game.

And this is the bottom line, with Okafor living up to the hype or being a bust.

[LloydFree]

Picking Okafor was obviously Hinkie's biggest mistake during his time here as GM, but fortunately he acquired enough assets long-term to lessen the blow of at least one of his high picks busting.

Unfortunately for Okafor and his supporters, he has no future here, as the drafting of Pasecniks and the signing of Johnson are the final nails in the coffin. Given that BC was unable to move him on draft night, I imagine that his value is negative around the league. Thus he may either be forced to release Okafor or surrender an asset just for another team to take him.

Like any bad relationship, it's time to cut our losses and move on.

I don't want him cut. I don't want Brooklyn or the Lakers picking him up while the Celtics own their picks. Give him to Atlanta for a 3rd round pick.

[Embiid P]

Picking Okafor was obviously Hinkie's biggest mistake during his time here as GM, but fortunately he acquired enough assets long-term to lessen the blow of at least one of his high picks busting.

Unfortunately for Okafor and his supporters, he has no future here, as the drafting of Pasecniks and the signing of Johnson are the final nails in the coffin. Given that BC was unable to move him on draft night, I imagine that his value is negative around the league. Thus he may either be forced to release Okafor or surrender an asset just for another team to take him.

Like any bad relationship, it's time to cut our losses and move on.

I don't want him cut. I don't want Brooklyn or the Lakers picking him up while the Celtics own their picks. Give him to Atlanta for a 3rd round pick.

[eagereyez]

Okafor was never out of shape to begin with.

[img]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ6HsJdCnIIAmTGZSo4hnCse0OIkY-9V7MMCytZI7bdbU2-koYAnA][/img]

You can look at his workout pics from last year to see that he wasn't out of shape then either. He is just a low endurance athlete. I wasn't surprised when he was still a slow dude with low energy last year, and I won't be surprised when he's still a slow dude with low energy next year. Expecting him to make serious improvements to his endurance is like expecting McConnell to develop a 42" vert. Any improvement Okafor makes will be modest as best.

It's easy to say Okafor can't improve, everyone will agree. However, he has shown an elite offensive game with shot creating skills in the post, that are almost unstoppable. He was getting his shot blocked, so he started dunking at the rim. Not sure why he stopped, knee injury, trade talks, but he definitely regressed. Anyway, he has had an offseason to work on his weaknesses, team defense, rebounding, and better fitness. If he improves he and Embiid could be a strong center rotation. For 20 mins a game, he could be a great backup. He has played well in games, for example, he crushed Gortat scoring several baskets in a row, small sample size. Anyway, with an old Amir Johnson signing it looks like his time with the Sixers is over, but I wouldn't be surprised if you see him become an asset for another team.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was playing in China in a few years. I think he's a bust on the level of Milicic and Bennett.

[spikeslovechild]

Has anyone noticed Nurkic's success after being traded from Denver to Portland? Could be the same kind of situation for Okafor. For all the posters that want to give away Okafor or even just cut him, you are crazy.

Exactly. A couple "Sixers Twitter" guys went forward with this "Okafor sucks" narrative and a bunch of fans mindlessly followed along with it. It's hilarious.

Lol. What has he done well?

He can't defend. He can't pass. He's a poor rebounder. He has been an inefficient scorer because he doesn't fit well in an offense that thrives on pace.

Okafor's best asset was his polished post-game coming out of college. In the NBA, he hasn't been able to score efficiently. I think he looks short, slow, and heavy playing center in the pros. His shot always gets blocked. He can't get boards. He can't pass out of doubles.

I was so impressed with his post game coming out of college, I wonder if he could excel with Simmons at point surrounded by shooters. Maybe his knee feels better. He gets in better shape. And creates some value for himself. Prob not tho.

I think people are mistaking can't for won't. He won't defend. He won't compete for rebounds. He won't set hard screens. He won't run the floor. He won't get in motion without the ball on offense.

Call me crazy but I still think the talent is there. I have NBATV I see every opposing team broadcast drool over what he can do. Of course they ignore what he won't do because it makes more sense to play up their own players then credit their success to Okafor lack of effort.

The point is he has some pretty special set of skills and has an exceptional NBA body. Whether he chooses to become something in the NBA is totally upto him.

[spikeslovechild]

Okafor was never out of shape to begin with.

[img]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ6HsJdCnIIAmTGZSo4hnCse0OIkY-9V7MMCytZI7bdbU2-koYAnA][/img]

You can look at his workout pics from last year to see that he wasn't out of shape then either. He is just a low endurance athlete. I wasn't surprised when he was still a slow dude with low energy last year, and I won't be surprised when he's still a slow dude with low energy next year. Expecting him to make serious improvements to his endurance is like expecting McConnell to develop a 42" vert. Any improvement Okafor makes will be modest as best.

It's easy to say Okafor can't improve, everyone will agree. However, he has shown an elite offensive game with shot creating skills in the post, that are almost unstoppable. He was getting his shot blocked, so he started dunking at the rim. Not sure why he stopped, knee injury, trade talks, but he definitely regressed. Anyway, he has had an offseason to work on his weaknesses, team defense, rebounding, and better fitness. If he improves he and Embiid could be a strong center rotation. For 20 mins a game, he could be a great backup. He has played well in games, for example, he crushed Gortat scoring several baskets in a row, small sample size. Anyway, with an old Amir Johnson signing it looks like his time with the Sixers is over, but I wouldn't be surprised if you see him become an asset for another team.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was playing in China in a few years. I think he's a bust on the level of Milicic and Bennett.

Yeah, Milicic actually played a long time in the NBA at a decent level so from that aspect he was not a bust. Bennett was a straight up bust but he never had the talent to play in the NBA. You could see it. Okafor has had stretches of dominance.

I made this comparison earlier he reminds me alot of Eddy Curry. A guy who you look at his skillset and size and wonder why he doesn't average 20/10. Then you realize he just doesn't love the game. I hope I'm wrong. When he was drafted and after his rookie year I really thought he'd take the next step then his offensive game fell apart and he somehow let his bad habits get even worse on the other end.

I think what annoyed me most is from my perspective he quit on the sixers last year. He basically gave so little effort that he forced the Sixers to bench him. It was Albert Haynesworth esque remember that play where the Titans pancaked him and he just stayed down. The center was like wtf for a cpl of seconds then went on to block another player. Then Gruden said that is a bad thing to put on tape and show the rest of the league. I kind of the opinion that we give him sparse minutes and only expand his role if/when he plays well. If he's out of the league in 2 years so be it. I'm not trading his talent for 2nds unless I have to.

[Chris76]

It's easy to say Okafor can't improve, everyone will agree. However, he has shown an elite offensive game with shot creating skills in the post, that are almost unstoppable. He was getting his shot blocked, so he started dunking at the rim. Not sure why he stopped, knee injury, trade talks, but he definitely regressed. Anyway, he has had an offseason to work on his weaknesses, team defense, rebounding, and better fitness. If he improves he and Embiid could be a strong center rotation. For 20 mins a game, he could be a great backup. He has played well in games, for example, he crushed Gortat scoring several baskets in a row, small sample size. Anyway, with an old Amir Johnson signing it looks like his time with the Sixers is over, but I wouldn't be surprised if you see him become an asset for another team.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was playing in China in a few years. I think he's a bust on the level of Milicic and Bennett.

Yeah, Milicic actually played a long time in the NBA at a decent level so from that aspect he was not a bust. Bennett was a straight up bust but he never had the talent to play in the NBA. You could see it. Okafor has had stretches of dominance.

I made this comparison earlier he reminds me alot of Eddy Curry. A guy who you look at his skillset and size and wonder why he doesn't average 20/10. Then you realize he just doesn't love the game. I hope I'm wrong. When he was drafted and after his rookie year I really thought he'd take the next step then his offensive game fell apart and he somehow let his bad habits get even worse on the other end.

I think what annoyed me most is from my perspective he quit on the sixers last year. He basically gave so little effort that he forced the Sixers to bench him. It was Albert Haynesworth esque remember that play where the Titans pancaked him and he just stayed down. The center was like wtf for a cpl of seconds then went on to block another player. Then Gruden said that is a bad thing to put on tape and show the rest of the league. I kind of the opinion that we give him sparse minutes and only expand his role if/when he plays well. If he's out of the league in 2 years so be it. I'm not trading his talent for 2nds unless I have to.

Okafor does have some bad habits, but most of his weaknesses are from lack of team defense. He never focused on helping others or rim protection. He can fix this by getting better position, sounds easy, but someone who has never focused on it will struggle. With practice I think he can improve by moving his feet faster to get to the right spot, Illasova was great at this. Not sure why everyone wants him to fail, he could be very valuable at end of games, good pressure scorer.

[Simmons25]

Okafor does have some bad habits, but most of his weaknesses are from lack of team defense. He never focused on helping others or rim protection. He can fix this by getting better position, sounds easy, but someone who has never focused on it will struggle. With practice I think he can improve by moving his feet faster to get to the right spot, Illasova was great at this. Not sure why everyone wants him to fail, he could be very valuable at end of games, good pressure scorer.

I don't think Okafor will be in at the end of games. Joel Embiid will be.

I just don't see a fit for Okafor in this team. Backup center behind Embiid? Maybe... although I would rather Richaun Holmes every day of the week. It's just a pity we literally cannot give Okafor away he is rated so poorly by other NBA teams.

[Kirk Van Houten]

The hate on his guy is insane. A lot of his problems where due to his conditioning, how many games did he start like a house on fire only slow down. He's clearly been in the gym, slimmed down a tonne. I hope he hangs around this year so he has a chance to prove everyone wrong.


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[Unbreakable99]

The hate on his guy is insane. A lot of his problems where due to his conditioning, how many games did he start like a house on fire only slow down. He's clearly been in the gym, slimmed down a tonne. I hope he hangs around this year so he has a chance to prove everyone wrong.


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I don't understand why some people say others are hating on Okafor when they are just stating facts. Saying Okafor hasn't been a good player so far is accurate. If it wasn't then Okafor would have played more and not been passed over by Holmes and the recently departed Long. Okafor needs to be off this team as soon as possible.

[rzzzzz]

I don't understand why some people say others are hating on Okafor when they are just stating facts. Saying Okafor hasn't been a good player so far is accurate. If it wasn't then Okafor would have played more and not been passed over by Holmes and the recently departed Long. Okafor needs to be off this team as soon as possible.

you don't think his bum knee for the past year and a half hasn't had an effect on his playing time? or trade potential? i don't get why he needs to be gone asap. yeah, early on he had a gun pulled on him, he punched out a drunk Celtic fan, and he raced across the Ben Frank. seemed like he took it hard, and even the Liberty Ballers have to admit he's been a solid citizen ever since, including not whining about the whole getting sent back to Philly prior to not being traded fiasco. some folks actually liked some of the games he had his rookie year. as for me, the only thing that raises a Prokafor reaction is the unnecessary negativity. personally, i got strong doubts he's ever going to play again. but if he heels, and gets the chance to improve on where his game was when he went down, he might be worth something. it ain't personal Sonny. it's strictly business.

[51X3RF4N]

http://knicks.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Knicks-76ers-have-discussed-Jahlil-Okafor-trade--53424576

Not sure if this was discussed yet on our forum. Hadn't seen it before.

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