Miami HEAT Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Sardine Central 2.0

Zasterror · Post #821 » by **Zasterror** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:48 pm

DayofMourning wrote:Looks like we lost him based on the respected tweets I've been reading on the Celtics forum. Oh well.

Let's talk about some Ersan Ilyasova boys.

I'm on the Celtics forum and I don't see nothing of the sort

Daffy · Post #822 » by **Daffy** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:48 pm

OtW wrote:The fact is, no matter how good Riley's sales pitch and gameplan are to maximize Hayward, the personal connection he had with Stevens and BOS's perceived flexibility with assets matter greatly. Even if Ainge sits on his hands and does nothing, he looks like a threat in a trade for nearly every disgruntled star player going forward. Miami would be capped out with limited mobility with whoever the signed on a max contract. Riley can say "Ainge doesn't get you players, I will" (which is true track record-wise), but that talk only goes so far without pics, limited space, and not many young assets. Sure, Spo can maximize Hayward, but what else can we offer team-wise in terms of mobility going forward? We were outsiders from the beginning. Nothing wrong with that. I would be ecstatic to sign Hayward but the cards were never really in our favor. It would say a lot about Riley and this team to pry him away from Utah and Boston.

The man has a point.

fsuizzy · Post #823 » by **fsuizzy** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:48 pm

OtW wrote:The fact is, no matter how good Riley's sales pitch and gameplan are to maximize Hayward, the personal connection he had with Stevens and BOS's perceived flexibility with assets matter greatly. Even if Ainge sits on his hands and does nothing, he looks like a threat in a trade for nearly every disgruntled star player going forward. Miami would be capped out with limited mobility with whoever the signed on a max contract. Riley can say "Ainge doesn't get you players, I will" (which is true track record-wise), but that talk only goes so far without pics, limited space, and not many young assets. Sure, Spo can maximize Hayward, but what else can we offer team-wise in terms of mobility not going forward?

You really think if Hayward signs here Riley is capped out? Hahaha say Goodbye to TJ, Ellington won't be re-signed, McBob-Gone. And that is just your appetizer. This team will be build around Whiteside and Hayward. Everyone else is expendable.

Post #824 » by **KingDavid** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:50 pm

fsuizzy wrote:Do you want bad news, your first Miami Heat Report retweeted that report on ESPN saying Hayward to Boston likely. Barry Jackson.

Either join the team with the best record in the East and a lot of draft picks or stay where you're comfortable. I have no clue why he would choose us with those options on the table.

JLop · Post #825 » by **JLop** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:50 pm

Relax, guys. It's going to be Miami. :wink:

Rapaz · Post #826 » by **Rapaz** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:51 pm

Zasterror wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:Looks like we lost him based on the respected tweets I've been reading on the Celtics forum. Oh well.

Let's talk about some Ersan Ilyasova boys.

I'm on the Celtics forum and I don't see nothing of the sort

OtW · Post #827 » by **OtW** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:52 pm

fsuizzy wrote:
OtW wrote:The fact is, no matter how good Riley's sales pitch and gameplan are to maximize Hayward, the personal connection he had with Stevens and BOS's perceived flexibility with assets matter greatly. Even if Ainge sits on his hands and does nothing, he looks like a threat in a trade for nearly every disgruntled star player going forward. Miami would be capped out with limited mobility with whoever the signed on a max contract. Riley can say "Ainge doesn't get you players, I will" (which is true track record-wise), but that talk only goes so far without pics, limited space, and not many young assets. Sure, Spo can maximize Hayward, but what else can we offer team-wise in terms of mobility not going forward?

You really think if Hayward signs here Riley is capped out? Hahaha say Goodbye to TJ, Ellington won't be re-signed, McBob-Gone. And that is just your appetizer. This team will be build around Whiteside and Hayward. Everyone else is expendable.

That can certainly happen. But how quick can we clear those players, and for who? Tyler's contact does not spike until next season. McBob is a given. Ellington can be dangled depending on team needs, but he fits our drive-and-kick offense perfectly.

Mos_Heat · Post #828 » by **Mos_Heat** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:52 pm

Bishop45 wrote:Don't care for Hayward rn but all this hub he's making makes it seem like he's not returning, Utah fans will probably resent him for the wait if he doesn't return

it's gonna be bad for Salt Lake guys, seven years of rebuild and one playoff run.

HeatFanLifer · Post #829 » by **HeatFanLifer** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:53 pm

Zasterror wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:Looks like we lost him based on the respected tweets I've been reading on the Celtics forum. Oh well.

Let's talk about some Ersan Ilyasova boys.

I'm on the Celtics forum and I don't see nothing of the sort

Breaking news (I.e. Twitter) is notorious for getting facts wrong anyways.

fsuizzy · Post #830 » by **fsuizzy** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:53 pm

On that Kevin Smith Tweet-Apparently the the Celts are in SLC for the Summer league games. The big question is how Smitty knows this when HE is in ORL. Also, Hayward is in San Diego. He would be at his own announcement IMO.

Enso · Post #831 » by **Enso** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:53 pm

HEATlanta wrote:LeBron and Wade stole the soul of this organization...Riley doesn't have an edge anymore, Micky is a boob and won't get involved in basketball...heck even Andy is losing weight! Screw LeBron and Wade!

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lol

Post #832 » by **IggieCC** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:54 pm

Bishop45 wrote:Don't care for Hayward rn but all this hub he's making makes it seem like he's not returning, Utah fans will probably resent him for the wait if he doesn't return

sounds familiar BISH exactly about a year ago

Lilseb93 · Post #833 » by **Lilseb93** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:54 pm

Heat3 · Post #834 » by **Heat3** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:54 pm

fsuizzy wrote:On that Kevin Smith Tweet-Apparently the the Celts are in SLC for the Summer league games. The big question is how Smitty knows this when HE is in ORL. Also, Hayward is in San Nopego. He would be at his own announcement IMO.

just tweeting for attention while saying nothing. if he had a story to break he'd tweet about it. not something vague.

BlueHeat · Post #835 » by **BlueHeat** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:55 pm

Riley has lost his touch. What a failure of an offseason.

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HIF · Post #836 » by **HIF** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:56 pm

Heat3 wrote:
fsuizzy wrote:On that Kevin Smith Tweet-Apparently the the Celts are in SLC for the Summer league games. The big question is how Smitty knows this when HE is in ORL. Also, Hayward is in San Nopego. He would be at his own announcement IMO.

just tweeting for attention while saying nothing. if he had a story to break he'd tweet about it. not something vague.

Being a tweeter is all about getting followers. Addiction to attention.

Heat_Fan_87 · Post #837 » by **Heat_Fan_87** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:56 pm

expect he goes to boston, that way your not disappointed if he does, if he comes here it would be a total shock, and then off to celtics forum

Heatwok · Post #838 » by **Heatwok** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:56 pm

Heat_Fan_87 wrote:HAVE NO FEAR FELLAS, WE HAVE LUKE BABBIT'S BIRD RIGHTS, WE ARE FINE.

lmao

OtW · Post #839 » by **OtW** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:56 pm

Here' to hoping Hayward tells the team's who are a "no" first so Riley can get on with Plan B and secure JJ/Dion and a sit down with some other potential fits, in the event we are a "no".

HIF · Post #840 » by **HIF** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:57 pm

BlueHeat wrote:Riley has lost his touch. What a failure of an offseason.

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Because he may not have gotten Hayward?

Really?

Some fans have lost it.