2017 Nets Offseason Thread II

[Keith Van Horn]

so absolute radio silence on Otto Porter meeting with the Nets... no leaks on the Brooklyn ship!
But shouldn't we have heard how it went and if the Nets made an offer at least??

[vincecarter4pres]

so absolute radio silence on Otto Porter meeting with the Nets... no leaks on the Brooklyn ship!
But shouldn't we have heard how it went and if the Nets made an offer at least??

I think this is how they operate now.

It does make me think he didn't sign it though, I'm not sure if that news could have been kept under wraps, someone from Otto's camp probably would have leaked it, maybe even just out of excitement.

[NetSymptom]

so absolute radio silence on Otto Porter meeting with the Nets... no leaks on the Brooklyn ship!
But shouldn't we have heard how it went and if the Nets made an offer at least??

I think this is how they operate now.

It does make me think he didn't sign it though, I'm not sure if that news could have been kept under wraps, someone from Otto's camp probably would have leaked it, maybe even just out of excitement.

Maybe they are trying to negotiate a sign and trade

[vincecarter4pres]

so absolute radio silence on Otto Porter meeting with the Nets... no leaks on the Brooklyn ship!
But shouldn't we have heard how it went and if the Nets made an offer at least??

I think this is how they operate now.

It does make me think he didn't sign it though, I'm not sure if that news could have been kept under wraps, someone from Otto's camp probably would have leaked it, maybe even just out of excitement.

Maybe they are trying to negotiate a sign and trade

Very possible.

[hookshot199]

I come as a friend.

As we all know, Boston is on pins and needles about Hayward. I don't see the fit, but will leave that for another time. My question: Would there be any interest in poaching Kelly Olynyk? He's not my favorite player but is a 7-footer, is a .360-.370 three ball shooter, has been a decent rotation player. Because of the Celtics cap situation - they have to re-sign IT and Avery Bradley next June - the Nets might be able to get him for reasonable money (say, $10-$15 mil/year x three). Of course, reasonable money is in the eyes of the beholder. And worst case scenario, since the Celtics are shorthanded in the front court, force the Cs to match.

Your thoughts>

[Netaman]

I'm not shocked about the silence since he can't officially start the 48 hours for a few more days. He could be considering both teams offers or it could be negotiations with Washington. Although Porter is a solidly better player, I can't imagine Washington will be able to get RHJ for him and avoid tying up $25M of their cap. That seems too good to be true for them. I'm hoping it's more like Kilpatrick and a small +, he'd replace more of Porter's lost offense than RHJ but obviously none of the defense and a lot less upside.

[vincecarter4pres]

I'm not shocked about the silence since he can't officially start the 48 hours for a few more days. He could be considering both teams offers or it could be negotiations with Washington. Although Porter is a solidly better player, I can't imagine Washington will be able to get RHJ for him and avoid tying up $25M of their cap. That seems too good to be true for them. I'm hoping it's more like Kilpatrick and a small +, he'd replace more of Porter's lost offense than RHJ but obviously none of the defense and a lot less upside.

Was thinking about this more and more myself since last night and all the stats on RHJ's D and just thinking honestly about his substantial growth the 2nd half of last year. How devoid of assets and just young high ceiling players we are. How he missed so much of his rookie year and how raw he was coming out of college. How young he is for a 3rd year player. I'm with you, I don't think Marks would even give him up for Porter. They would want both of them, or they'd let him sign and leave the ball in Washington's court. If Markinson lost him, oh well, move on to another target, a salary dump, and/or next off-season and continue building from within.

It's funny, cause here we are as a bottom feeder team, well us and Sacto and we're all fawning over Porter(or at least intrigued by the prospects of him) and on the other side of the pond in the good ole District of Columbia, their star player is completely throwing Porter under the bus and running him over again in reverse for good measure and although their brass keeps desperately claiming they'll match any offer, they didn't max him themselves like they did with Beal to keep him off the market. Everyone knows they don't want to match and are only going to because they have literally no other choice since they gave out the Mahinmi contract and have pretty much zero young assets.

I'm making my final statement of opinion on this one. I wouldn't want to give up RHJ in a Porter S&T. I wouldn't be heartbroken if it happened, but I wouldn't be thrilled and wouldn't pursue it. I wouldn't mind if we sign Porter and land him. But I wouldn't be upset if Washington matched and we moved on to plans B through E.

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[TheBrooklynKidd]

Is that how one stretches the truth?

OTOH, why are you so sure DRuss is better offensively than Lin?

I don't. I just look at what he did and use logic.

That's what you think is happening but it isn't really what's going on. So you're saying Luke put DRuss at the 2 is self-serving in detriment to the team?

Na, Harris is too slow to play SG, he's strong enough to guard SFs. At 6'6 he's not really undersized nowadays. (I was saying this at the beginning of the season and Kenny's action says the same) Harris could be said to be trash on a good team, but on last year's team, that's totally wrong, do you honestly believe that Foye is better than him? At the latter part of the season it was more about development anyways, how much pt did Scola get? Harris definitely would have played more if he wasn't injured.

Ya, when they were looking at Porter vs Foye. Now they got Russell it's a totally different ballgame. And if they get KCP, or JJ? They don't really mind having LVJ at SF.

It's a negligible consideration. Especially now that versatility and small ball is in vogue. You definitely don't want liability tho and he's not.

Sorry, I don't respond to ad hominem arguments. OTOH, what you want and what's gonna happen doesn't necessarily coincide. What's good for Lin could be good for the teams future as well. Facilitating PGs are different from other positions, it takes time to mature. You see Lowry with a bunch of young guys, Nash, Kidd etc.

We shall see what happens with the free agency, if they don't get Porter this might be the perimeter for the future.

What's good for Lin isn't going to be good for the future because Lin won't be in this teams future just like how you won't be commenting on this board when he's traded or leaves.

That's not necessarily the case even tho it's your belief. As I was saying, it's not uncommon to have an older PG with a younger roster. Who knows? Maybe he'll retire in a decade as a Net and I'll post for many decades here?

LeVert is fine at small forward but he's best at SG.

Not necessarily so. Guys like Iggy and Kawaii are listed at 6'6 and 6'7 and play SF fine. LBJ is only 6'8.

And you pointing out Harris flaws further proves my point that LeVert was the only person on the roster capable of playing sf.

Just cuz JHar is flawed doesn't mean he's not capable. Pretty much the entire roster was deeply flawed last season. Acy played SF before and Kenny didn't play him much there. There's KJ as well. Booker can play a bit there. RHJ of course.

Also your idea that Harris is too slow for SG is just false as he is listed as a shooting guard

Just cuz he's listed there doesn't mean he really is one, at least not according to Kenny's actions.

and whenever he played next to LeVert he was guarding SG.

Um....that could be cuz Kenny wants LVJ to play SF?

He was also trash last year, extremely one dimensional and constantly chucking up contested ill advised 3s.

That's not wrong, on a normal roster. With arguably the most important player down and a 20 games losing streak running, it was a different story. It could be that Kenny wanted them to keep shooting? Both for fluidity's sake and development? He wasn't really extremely one dimensional anyways, he had some pleasantly surprising moments with defense, passing, slashing and hustle. I remember Prok the poster was praising his D.

Randy foye started cause he at least could handle the ball and not have tunnel vision every time he caught it.

That's possible, but it could also be that cuz Kenny wanted LVJ to play SF.

Small ball is in but you clearly don't understand what that means. Teams are looking for big 6'8 and 6'9 guys to play at the 3 and 4 instead of 7 footers at the 4 it has nothing to do with having an undersized small forward.

When were most of the 4s in the league 7 footers? That has never been the case.

I think the originator of small lineup is MDA:

Nash-Bell-Richardson(6'6)-Marion(6'7)-Amare

We're talkin' 'bout a 6'7 PF here. LVJ's fine, again, he's not really undersized at the 3.

Prok addressed the PG offense comment the only thing funny about it is how your blind love for Lin effects your rational judgement. And it's incredibly clear that your arguments are based on your Linsecurities about his minutes and shots as opposed to the team doing well.

Already responded. Again, ad hominem is no-no.

In what world is Lin a pass first pg

It's pretty understandable that you have this query cuz there are two camps that constantly debate about this. I am squarely in the pass first camp, as is his shooting coach who had been working with him for a long time, I think he said it best:

“Jeremy, on the other hand, has never had a shooter’s mindset. That’s something very hard to develop. He’s a pass-first point guard. He’s more interested in setting up his teammates in a position where they can score.

“Another big difference between (a certain PG) and Jeremy is Jeremy makes sure he gives players easy shots. He creates those shots in penetration. (a certain PG) doesn’t work at doing that. If a guy is open, (a certain PG) will throw it to them. But he doesn’t work to get them open. Lin knows if he draws a double team somebody has to be open and he has the vision to find them. A great point guard gives other people advantages when they shoot. Steve Nash was like that. He made everybody around him better.”

http://hoopshabit.com/2016/02/15/doc-scheppler-interview-talking-jeremy-lin-kemba-walker-and-more/

Anyway Lin isn't in this teams future he's just gonna be a journey man for the future like his entire career unless Kenny decides to keep him around as a veteran 6th man once we get a real sf. But hopefully he trades him next season so that we can get a valuable piece for the future and all you Lin fans can take your agendas to another board.

Maybe, maybe not. Markinson might disappoint you tho, sorry.

Ok im gonna make my points on why LeVert is a SG abundantly clear. I understand that it threatens Jeremy Lins spot but that's what happens when youre an average veteran on a team with young guards with great potential.

1. Kenny is quoted saying LeVert is a "guard" and that he hopes he could "move down a position and play some 1"
2. Marks is quoted saying "I think we know the 3 position for us is certainly one that needs to addressed" and you know he wasn't endorsing Foye as the 2 of the future.
3. No wing player on the Nets was taller than LeVert or capable of guarding players at sf which is the ONLY reason he played SF last season
4. LeVert is much to skinny and his shoulders are too small to guard small forward full time he was constantly pushed around last year by bigger forwards despite his overall great defensive IQ. And when he was forced to guard PFs as the secondary defender of that position, it was horrible because they had such a size advantage over him.

All of these quotes show that they see LeVert as a combo guard with defensive versatility and would like to acquire a real SF although in the short term playing him at the 3 is fine.

Like I said I would be fine with Jeremy on this team (and the Lin fans I guess )but his ultimate role is going to be 6th man. When Russell and LeVert are without a doubt better than him, which isn't far away and could even happen next season and when they get a real SF Lin will be relegated to the bench which is fine. There's enough passing and creating capability between those two guards to overcome Lins so called pass first benefits.

[Prokorov]

Winslow only played 18 games last season. And all of them are at the beginning of the last season, when the heat are kind of trying to figure things out.
In his rookie season, he palyed about 25 min/game in the playoffs. He got those minutes solely for defensive reasons.
Saying RHJ is better than Winslow doesn't convince me for that.

Well convince this board otherwise then, other than you saying Winslow is better...

Don't put words in my mouth.
What I said was "RHJ isn't better than Winslow."

oh come on now... how is you saying "RHJ isnt better then winslow" not the same as saying "winslwo is better"

either way... whether you think winslow is better or they are equal you have provided nothing to convice or prove us that is the case. its just because you said so. meanwhile myself and other have provided mountains of evidence as you why RHJ is better.

[Prokorov]

i think it is absurd to Pay Gallinari 22 million a year and 3 years... and im shocked anyone here is upset we arent singing him to that kind of deal.

We are dodging bullets left and right: Gibson, Galanari, McLemore, potentially porter if he goes with sacramento's offer. Just need to stay clear of THJ/KCP and anything over 12M to green and we are in good shape

[Prokorov]

I come as a friend.

As we all know, Boston is on pins and needles about Hayward. I don't see the fit, but will leave that for another time. My question: Would there be any interest in poaching Kelly Olynyk? He's not my favorite player but is a 7-footer, is a .360-.370 three ball shooter, has been a decent rotation player. Because of the Celtics cap situation - they have to re-sign IT and Avery Bradley next June - the Nets might be able to get him for reasonable money (say, $10-$15 mil/year x three). Of course, reasonable money is in the eyes of the beholder. And worst case scenario, since the Celtics are shorthanded in the front court, force the Cs to match.

Your thoughts>

We have talked about him. I'd love him at 10-12M. more then that i would pass. The front office seems to be all set on bigs with: Mozgov/hamilton/allen/booker/acy/nicholson

we look to be going for SG or SF/PF tweener

[Prokorov]

I'm not shocked about the silence since he can't officially start the 48 hours for a few more days. He could be considering both teams offers or it could be negotiations with Washington. Although Porter is a solidly better player, I can't imagine Washington will be able to get RHJ for him and avoid tying up $25M of their cap. That seems too good to be true for them. I'm hoping it's more like Kilpatrick and a small +, he'd replace more of Porter's lost offense than RHJ but obviously none of the defense and a lot less upside.

As we have been discussing the past couple days... it makes some sense for the Nets to include RHJ in a deal for porter. If we max porter, then extending RHJ in a couple years really puts us in a bind cap wise. And if we really think they will match on porter, we need to entice them with a real asset.

If we make a trade with them id expect RHJ or Allen to be involved

[vincecarter4pres]

Well convince this board otherwise then, other than you saying Winslow is better...

Don't put words in my mouth.
What I said was "RHJ isn't better than Winslow."

oh come on now... how is you saying "RHJ isnt better then winslow" not the same as saying "winslwo is better"

either way... whether you think winslow is better or they are equal you have provided nothing to convice or prove us that is the case. its just because you said so. meanwhile myself and other have provided mountains of evidence as you why RHJ is better.

And the funny part is, what's so audacious to say RHJ is better?

Because he was drafted exactly 13 slots lower 2 drafts ago?

Because there was about a 9 month period on RealGM where Heat fans and General Boarders beat everyone in the head with, "Winslow is gonna be a supa-stah!", and other assorted "how good he is" diatribes?

Because he played in the playoffs his rookie season?

I actually still like Winslow. It's only going into year 3 and he's shown some nice flashes and abilities. But he's so disgustingly inefficient, such an abysmal shooter, so limited on offense in general and is a quite good, but not great defender.

You certainly don''t give up on Winslow yet, but I don't see what there's such to get all hot under the collar about?

[Papi_swav]

No way I'm giving RHJ up, he's probably my favorite Net player, I love his herky jerky style of play. Check his defensive stats since he came into the league, he's a future all first NBA defense team, I rather stick with RHJ than to get Porter tbh.

[vincecarter4pres]

i think it is absurd to Pay Gallinari 22 million a year and 3 years... and im shocked anyone here is upset we arent singing him to that kind of deal.

We are dodging bullets left and right: Gibson, Galanari, McLemore, potentially porter if he goes with sacramento's offer. Just need to stay clear of THJ/KCP and anything over 12M to green and we are in good shape

I actually like THJ at a reasonable deal/S&T the more I think about it.

Atlanta supposedly not willing to go above $10 to $12 million a season depending on number of years.

They're in no man's land. If we strikeout on Porter, it's not a bad idea to see how THJ feels about signing here for 3 years and between say, $33 to $38 million, then just to be safe and to keep cap open for dumps/trades, offer Booker/1 of Whitehead, Goodwin, Skil, Dinwiddie or Harris and the remaining in TPE.

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[vincecarter4pres]

What's good for Lin isn't going to be good for the future because Lin won't be in this teams future just like how you won't be commenting on this board when he's traded or leaves.

That's not necessarily the case even tho it's your belief. As I was saying, it's not uncommon to have an older PG with a younger roster. Who knows? Maybe he'll retire in a decade as a Net and I'll post for many decades here?

LeVert is fine at small forward but he's best at SG.

Not necessarily so. Guys like Iggy and Kawaii are listed at 6'6 and 6'7 and play SF fine. LBJ is only 6'8.

And you pointing out Harris flaws further proves my point that LeVert was the only person on the roster capable of playing sf.

Just cuz JHar is flawed doesn't mean he's not capable. Pretty much the entire roster was deeply flawed last season. Acy played SF before and Kenny didn't play him much there. There's KJ as well. Booker can play a bit there. RHJ of course.

Also your idea that Harris is too slow for SG is just false as he is listed as a shooting guard

Just cuz he's listed there doesn't mean he really is one, at least not according to Kenny's actions.

and whenever he played next to LeVert he was guarding SG.

Um....that could be cuz Kenny wants LVJ to play SF?

He was also trash last year, extremely one dimensional and constantly chucking up contested ill advised 3s.

That's not wrong, on a normal roster. With arguably the most important player down and a 20 games losing streak running, it was a different story. It could be that Kenny wanted them to keep shooting? Both for fluidity's sake and development? He wasn't really extremely one dimensional anyways, he had some pleasantly surprising moments with defense, passing, slashing and hustle. I remember Prok the poster was praising his D.

Randy foye started cause he at least could handle the ball and not have tunnel vision every time he caught it.

That's possible, but it could also be that cuz Kenny wanted LVJ to play SF.

Small ball is in but you clearly don't understand what that means. Teams are looking for big 6'8 and 6'9 guys to play at the 3 and 4 instead of 7 footers at the 4 it has nothing to do with having an undersized small forward.

When were most of the 4s in the league 7 footers? That has never been the case.

I think the originator of small lineup is MDA:

Nash-Bell-Richardson(6'6)-Marion(6'7)-Amare

We're talkin' 'bout a 6'7 PF here. LVJ's fine, again, he's not really undersized at the 3.

Prok addressed the PG offense comment the only thing funny about it is how your blind love for Lin effects your rational judgement. And it's incredibly clear that your arguments are based on your Linsecurities about his minutes and shots as opposed to the team doing well.

Already responded. Again, ad hominem is no-no.

In what world is Lin a pass first pg

It's pretty understandable that you have this query cuz there are two camps that constantly debate about this. I am squarely in the pass first camp, as is his shooting coach who had been working with him for a long time, I think he said it best:

“Jeremy, on the other hand, has never had a shooter’s mindset. That’s something very hard to develop. He’s a pass-first point guard. He’s more interested in setting up his teammates in a position where they can score.

“Another big difference between (a certain PG) and Jeremy is Jeremy makes sure he gives players easy shots. He creates those shots in penetration. (a certain PG) doesn’t work at doing that. If a guy is open, (a certain PG) will throw it to them. But he doesn’t work to get them open. Lin knows if he draws a double team somebody has to be open and he has the vision to find them. A great point guard gives other people advantages when they shoot. Steve Nash was like that. He made everybody around him better.”

http://hoopshabit.com/2016/02/15/doc-scheppler-interview-talking-jeremy-lin-kemba-walker-and-more/

Anyway Lin isn't in this teams future he's just gonna be a journey man for the future like his entire career unless Kenny decides to keep him around as a veteran 6th man once we get a real sf. But hopefully he trades him next season so that we can get a valuable piece for the future and all you Lin fans can take your agendas to another board.

Maybe, maybe not. Markinson might disappoint you tho, sorry.

Ok im gonna make my points on why LeVert is a SG abundantly clear. I understand that it threatens Jeremy Lins spot but that's what happens when youre an average veteran on a team with young guards with great potential.

1. Kenny is quoted saying LeVert is a "guard" and that he hopes he could "move down a position and play some 1"
2. Marks is quoted saying "I think we know the 3 position for us is certainly one that needs to addressed" and you know he wasn't endorsing Foye as the 2 of the future.
3. No wing player on the Nets was taller than LeVert or capable of guarding players at sf which is the ONLY reason he played SF last season
4. LeVert is much to skinny and his shoulders are too small to guard small forward full time he was constantly pushed around last year by bigger forwards despite his overall great defensive IQ. And when he was forced to guard PFs as the secondary defender of that position, it was horrible because they had such a size advantage over him.

All of these quotes show that they see LeVert as a combo guard with defensive versatility and would like to acquire a real SF although in the short term playing him at the 3 is fine.

Like I said I would be fine with Jeremy on this team (and the Lin fans I guess )but his ultimate role is going to be 6th man. When Russell and LeVert are without a doubt better than him, which isn't far away and could even happen next season and when they get a real SF Lin will be relegated to the bench which is fine. There's enough passing and creating capability between those two guards to overcome Lins so called pass first benefits.

If you're looking at LeVert as the 2 the problem is it's not Lin's spot whose threatened, it's actually LeVert, because Russell is probably not a full time, long term point guard, if he's a starter. He starts at the 2 and can slide to some 1.

Even if Lin is still a journey man and traded, or not retained, or moved to the bench in the short term, they'll probably be looking for a long term solution at the point, looking at Russell as the 2, as long as he works out, unless he is eventually switched to the Manu role, who ironically is his idol on the court.

So, maybe LeVert actually slides into that 6xth man role, considering his versatility, that he can play 1 through 3 and that's fine, he was only the 20th overall pick and on top of that, a guy like Manu is a HOFer and some 6xth men are tremendously better than your standard issue Jamal Crawford, JR Smith, chucker fare.

But if LeVert has to be a 2, his spot is the one who's really challenged. Lin was never likely to be the long term solution as a starting 1 no matter what.

[hookshot199]

I come as a friend.

As we all know, Boston is on pins and needles about Hayward. I don't see the fit, but will leave that for another time. My question: Would there be any interest in poaching Kelly Olynyk? He's not my favorite player but is a 7-footer, is a .360-.370 three ball shooter, has been a decent rotation player. Because of the Celtics cap situation - they have to re-sign IT and Avery Bradley next June - the Nets might be able to get him for reasonable money (say, $10-$15 mil/year x three). Of course, reasonable money is in the eyes of the beholder. And worst case scenario, since the Celtics are shorthanded in the front court, force the Cs to match.

Your thoughts>

We have talked about him. I'd love him at 10-12M. more then that i would pass. The front office seems to be all set on bigs with: Mozgov/hamilton/allen/booker/acy/nicholson

we look to be going for SG or SF/PF tweener

Thanks for responding. I still think you could steal him. Good luck.

[TheBrooklynKidd]

That's not necessarily the case even tho it's your belief. As I was saying, it's not uncommon to have an older PG with a younger roster. Who knows? Maybe he'll retire in a decade as a Net and I'll post for many decades here?

Not necessarily so. Guys like Iggy and Kawaii are listed at 6'6 and 6'7 and play SF fine. LBJ is only 6'8.


Just cuz JHar is flawed doesn't mean he's not capable. Pretty much the entire roster was deeply flawed last season. Acy played SF before and Kenny didn't play him much there. There's KJ as well. Booker can play a bit there. RHJ of course.


Just cuz he's listed there doesn't mean he really is one, at least not according to Kenny's actions.


Um....that could be cuz Kenny wants LVJ to play SF?


That's not wrong, on a normal roster. With arguably the most important player down and a 20 games losing streak running, it was a different story. It could be that Kenny wanted them to keep shooting? Both for fluidity's sake and development? He wasn't really extremely one dimensional anyways, he had some pleasantly surprising moments with defense, passing, slashing and hustle. I remember Prok the poster was praising his D.


That's possible, but it could also be that cuz Kenny wanted LVJ to play SF.

When were most of the 4s in the league 7 footers? That has never been the case.

I think the originator of small lineup is MDA:

Nash-Bell-Richardson(6'6)-Marion(6'7)-Amare

We're talkin' 'bout a 6'7 PF here. LVJ's fine, again, he's not really undersized at the 3.

Already responded. Again, ad hominem is no-no.

It's pretty understandable that you have this query cuz there are two camps that constantly debate about this. I am squarely in the pass first camp, as is his shooting coach who had been working with him for a long time, I think he said it best:


http://hoopshabit.com/2016/02/15/doc-scheppler-interview-talking-jeremy-lin-kemba-walker-and-more/


Maybe, maybe not. Markinson might disappoint you tho, sorry.

Ok im gonna make my points on why LeVert is a SG abundantly clear. I understand that it threatens Jeremy Lins spot but that's what happens when youre an average veteran on a team with young guards with great potential.

1. Kenny is quoted saying LeVert is a "guard" and that he hopes he could "move down a position and play some 1"
2. Marks is quoted saying "I think we know the 3 position for us is certainly one that needs to addressed" and you know he wasn't endorsing Foye as the 2 of the future.
3. No wing player on the Nets was taller than LeVert or capable of guarding players at sf which is the ONLY reason he played SF last season
4. LeVert is much to skinny and his shoulders are too small to guard small forward full time he was constantly pushed around last year by bigger forwards despite his overall great defensive IQ. And when he was forced to guard PFs as the secondary defender of that position, it was horrible because they had such a size advantage over him.

All of these quotes show that they see LeVert as a combo guard with defensive versatility and would like to acquire a real SF although in the short term playing him at the 3 is fine.

Like I said I would be fine with Jeremy on this team (and the Lin fans I guess )but his ultimate role is going to be 6th man. When Russell and LeVert are without a doubt better than him, which isn't far away and could even happen next season and when they get a real SF Lin will be relegated to the bench which is fine. There's enough passing and creating capability between those two guards to overcome Lins so called pass first benefits.

If you're looking at LeVert as the 2 the problem is it's not Lin's spot whose threatened, it's actually LeVert, because Russell is probably not a full time, long term point guard, if he's a starter. He starts at the 2 and can slide to some 1.

Even if Lin is still a journey man and traded, or not retained, or moved to the bench in the short term, they'll probably be looking for a long term solution at the point, looking at Russell as the 2, as long as he works out, unless he is eventually switched to the Manu role, who ironically is his idol on the court.

Actually no I see him and LeVert playing as guards in general and sharing Point duties which Kenny has praised their ability and potential to both do.