OKC Thunder Offseason 2017: The Reshapening

Balkman32 · Post #2181 » by **Balkman32** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:47 pm

Knrstz wrote:What is a realistic contract for Patterson?

I doubt we offer more than the tax payers mid Level.

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Balkman32 · Post #2182 » by **Balkman32** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 3:48 pm

Old Man Game wrote:
OkcMagic wrote:
slick_watts wrote:
2-3, at best. you think westbrook is not going to have any noticeable decline until age 36?

Nope, especially since he's developing a three and will have more space to hit them with George on the team.

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You think George re-signs here next Summer?

I do. He Lakers are. It ready to compete. He could sign there when he is 30 then they might be ready to compete. Ball and Ingram are just too young.

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Post #2183 » by **ThunderBolt** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:10 pm

Balkman32 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:What is a realistic contract for Patterson?

I doubt we offer more than the tax payers mid Level.

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Is that actually what he's worth or are you basing it on what we can do with our current situation?

Balkman32 · Post #2184 » by **Balkman32** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:16 pm

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Hot damn. So I guess the Bucks are gonna dump Middleton to sign Rose?

I think they try to get off Monroe rather that a core guy in Middleton.

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spearsy23 · Post #2185 » by **spearsy23** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:29 pm

Knrstz wrote:
Balkman32 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:What is a realistic contract for Patterson?

I doubt we offer more than the tax payers mid Level.

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Is that actually what he's worth or are you basing it on what we can do with our current situation?

The money hasn't been there this off-season, so it's possible that's what he's worth. Personally, I'd think it takes at least the full MLE though and he may even get a bit higher offer than that.

Balkman32 · Post #2186 » by **Balkman32** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:34 pm

Andre Roberstan wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:Durant essentially giving Joe Jacob almost term million bucks is something.

I have feelings on this

Just crazy. We all know he will get that $10 million. It's a wink wink deal. He is saving the owners an additional $15 million in taxes.

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Balkman32 · Post #2187 » by **Balkman32** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:35 pm

bondom34 wrote:Should have drafted Horford in 07

Over Kd?

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Balkman32 · Post #2188 » by **Balkman32** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:38 pm

Knrstz wrote:Rudy Gay is scheduled to meet with Clippers tomorrow. We are going to mess around and not have a power forward.

With the Clippers signing Gallo I would think he has less interest. They have plenty of front court players.

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Balkman32 · Post #2189 » by **Balkman32** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:39 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
slick_watts wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
We can't start Adams, Roberson, and LRMAM. It barely worked with ibaka and a significantly better version of Paul George.

do you think taj gibson last year was significantly better than LRMAM on offensive impact?

'barely worked' with ibaka? those starting units were like +20pp100 lol.

For us? Absolutely. For Chicago? No clue. But he is definitely a better offensive player on his own than mbah a moute.

And by barely worked I was talking about the process, not the results. Ibaka gave us just enough spacing, and cupcake could score on anyone at will, so it worked. George isn't that caliber and we won't survive this conference without a third player to put pressure on defenses.

I think this is where Adams, Kanter, McDermott, and Adrines come in and help on offense.

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Balkman32 · Post #2190 » by **Balkman32** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:43 pm

spearsy23 wrote:At this point I honestly think we could miss the playoffs if we don't hit on a significant free agent. A healthy gay as a third option would ensure playoffs, Patterson probably does too, anybody else I think you're hoping to take a chance and need two risks to pay off ie Evans being healthy and huestis surpassing expectations while someone like Anthony tolliver just keeps the position warm enough to not be a complete liability.

Stop it. George and Westbrook can both take over games. If we bring back Roberson we will have a great core. Abrines, McDermott, Kanter, and Adams will all get better. They should use the $5.1 mid level and $4.9 trade exception to add a point guard and wing/stretch 4.

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Balkman32 · Post #2191 » by **Balkman32** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:44 pm

spearsy23 wrote:Ersan ilyasova still out there?

He is. Maybe he would have interest in a vet min. He actually would be a pretty good fit here.

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Balkman32 · Post #2192 » by **Balkman32** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:46 pm

getrichordie wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:So this is potentially interesting for those hoping for Rudy Gay. Can't imagine they want Gallo and Gay out in LAC

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Ohhhh :] I wonder who else is looking at Gay. Have to think Miami would look into him if they miss out on Hayward. They have a better shot of signing him :[

I think both Boston and Miami have interest in Gay if they don't get Hayward.

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Balkman32 · Post #2193 » by **Balkman32** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:52 pm

OKCThunder wrote:If the opportunity presented itself, and Carmelo was willing to come to OKC, do we we take the risk and trade Adams, a solid center?

The most you give up for Melo is Kanter and Singler. The Knicks get a young guy who can score around the rim and the Thunder get another scorer.

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Balkman32 · Post #2194 » by **Balkman32** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 4:59 pm

Knrstz wrote:
Balkman32 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:What is a realistic contract for Patterson?

I doubt we offer more than the tax payers mid Level.

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Is that actually what he's worth or are you basing it on what we can do with our current situation?

I would say yes to both. If we offer more than the $5.1 million we hard cap ourselves. Presti loves to have flexibility. I doubt he puts us in a hard cap situation.

If we want to add a guy who makes more we should look @ a trade.

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NetsWorld · Post #2195 » by **NetsWorld** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 5:00 pm

Balkman32 wrote:
OKCThunder wrote:If the opportunity presented itself, and Carmelo was willing to come to OKC, do we we take the risk and trade Adams, a solid center?

The most you give up for Melo is Kanter and Singler. The Knicks get a young guy who can score around the rim and the Thunder get another scorer.

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If NYK do a buyout and resign him for two years and we trade for him, we go for it. He can still flat out shoot and score. We would definitely contend with the Warriors with a core of Melo, George and Westbrook.

spearsy23 · Post #2196 » by **spearsy23** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 5:07 pm

OKCThunder wrote:
Balkman32 wrote:
OKCThunder wrote:If the opportunity presented itself, and Carmelo was willing to come to OKC, do we we take the risk and trade Adams, a solid center?

The most you give up for Melo is Kanter and Singler. The Knicks get a young guy who can score around the rim and the Thunder get another scorer.

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If NYK do a buyout and resign him for two years and we trade for him, we go for it. He can still flat out shoot and score. We would definitely contend with the Warriors with a core of Melo, George and Westbrook.

We could contend with Cleveland with that core, not golden state.

Post #2197 » by **ThunderBolt** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 5:26 pm

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Post #2199 » by **ThunderBolt** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 5:40 pm

Andre Roberstan wrote:

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Can't blame him. I really wish I knew what we were doing right now.

Thunder Up · Post #2200 » by **Thunder Up** » Tue Jul 4, 2017 6:19 pm

Knrstz wrote:
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Can't blame him. I really wish I knew what we were doing right now.

Waiting for Russell to tell us that he loves us