Miami HEAT Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Sardine Central 2.0

[Altered_Beast]

this board can be so fickle lmao, yesterday gordon was a sure fire all star 20+ ppg scorer that would put us in the ECF. Today hes at best a 2nd to 3rd option and a bum

I've been pretty consistent about not thinking the *team* you can build around Hayward with the available salary is much better than the alternative. Hayward is a good - not great - NBA player and I can see players that we have now able to match his level. I'd rather have Hayward the Rudy Gay or Danilo Gallinari. Let's flip your observation around. Wouldn't you have preferred to get Butler? I would. What about Paul George? What about Kevin Durant? Where does Hayward fit here? At the top? I don't think so.

Butler and George were unrealistic though. Both nabbed in trades when we have no tradeable assets besides TJ and giving up dragic/winslow wouldve been a risky move. Also the bulls wanted butler out of the east probably wouldnt have been trade partners with us and with PG you ran the risk of a rental for a season before he goes to LA to be the man. Hayward was by and large the best free agent of this class many people underrate him because hes in utah and white but the guy can easily put up 25+ here. I think hes worth the max and was worth fighting to get him. If we miss out hey we can still get dion who up until the second half of last year had been a bust his whole career and JJ was a journeyman. But hey this board is so convinced that with those 2 dudes its more than enough to be great. If we miss on hayward it will be a bummer but tbh i dont see us making it to the ecf, maybe the second round id like to see how winslow improves and if bam can contribute immediately

[gom]

If Miami whiffs on Hayward, hope this organization will finally come to grips with the need to rebuild and get our franchise player in the draft FFS.

The Heat aren't landing any Whales thru FA under the new CBA and just can't help to think, with this coaching staff, what they can do with a player like Josh Jax or DSJ talent, similar with what they did for DWade when he got here.

SMDH

What I'm most afraid of is missing Hayward and then - in desperation - giving a big deal to Rudy Gay or someone like that. We need to sign our guys and develop our young players.

[fsuizzy]

Well he isn't going to Jazz, their coach supposedly said no. And our reporters and doubtful. Which leaves one question, WTF are you doing PAT? There have been multiple free agents and you were content with re-signing bench players, and most likely overpaying them. You're at your house just chillin aren't you?

[Heat_Fan_87]

time to resign our boys

[MettaWorldPanda]

I could already see the Celtics fans coming here've trolling us.

Phuck em. Phuck em all to hell

[Lilseb93]

What it comes down to is I would like Hayward here, but if we don't get him we didn't miss out on a LeBron and ultimately next season wasn't do or die based on Hayward's decision anyways. It was just fun getting into the whole chase and Twitter investigation. Especially in my first time on this board.

This isn't going to ruin my night. I'm still RIDIN IN THE HEAAATTT!!

[Heat_Fan_87]

Well he isn't going to Jazz, their coach supposedly said no. And our reporters and doubtful. Which leaves one question, WTF are you doing PAT? There have been multiple free agents and you were content with re-signing bench players, and most likely overpaying them. You're at your house just chillin aren't you?

you mad at pat for hayward going to play with his college coach?

[Bourne85]

Not sure Pat is down with that

Who's Pat? The Pat I knew wouldn't sign Granger and Mcbob, let Wade leave for nothing. Pat has dementia. Sooner he is gone the better.

what are you saying dude? i can't stand this new era of heat bandwagon fan, caused by Lebron

Lol ok "Riley is God"

[HeatFanLifer]

Yeah, I was going to say the same yesterday. It was the fact that Celtics fans wanted him so badly that made me want to see the Heat sign him. That's not a good reason, though. If you look at how the salary cap is constrained, our existing contracts, and the state of the other teams... it doesn't make much sense. I'll let the smarter NBA people figure it out though. If Riley+Spo+James Johnson+Whiteside etc are all fans of the idea, then I'm probably wrong.

It's not a good reason if it's based around what Celtics fans want. I was more thinking in terms of the teams in the Heats way to the ECF's. The weaker Boston is, the better it is for the Heat.

[daniel3]

If Miami whiffs on Hayward, hope this organization will finally come to grips with the need to rebuild and get our franchise player in the draft FFS.

The Heat aren't landing any Whales thru FA under the new CBA and just can't help to think, with this coaching staff, what they can do with a player like Josh Jax or DSJ talent, similar with what they did for DWade when he got here.

SMDH

Half the east is rebuilding, we're going to receive even more competition in the race to the bottom sadly. Especially given we don't even have a 1st round pick for 2 of the next 4 drafts.

[Seabass777]

Read on Twitter

[Enso]

I don't care what the C's fans say

Watch on YouTube

[Heat3]

Who's Pat? The Pat I knew wouldn't sign Granger and Mcbob, let Wade leave for nothing. Pat has dementia. Sooner he is gone the better.

what are you saying dude? i can't stand this new era of heat bandwagon fan, caused by Lebron

Lol ok "Riley is God"

same wade that is clinging to a loser team to cash checks?

[QUIZ]

I don't care what the C's fans say

Watch on YouTube

LeBron still doing this to them.

[Heatwok]

I could already see the Celtics fans coming here've trolling us.

Phuck em. Phuck em all to hell

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8nqdvG70K1r5j928o1_500.gif

[MettaWorldPanda]

Well he isn't going to Jazz, their coach supposedly said no. And our reporters and doubtful. Which leaves one question, WTF are you doing PAT? There have been multiple free agents and you were content with re-signing bench players, and most likely overpaying them. You're at your house just chillin aren't you?

you mad at pat for hayward going to play with his college coach?

Exactly. Stevens is like a father figure to Hayward. It was my lone biggest fear that I posted countless of times.

[Bourne85]

what are you saying dude? i can't stand this new era of heat bandwagon fan, caused by Lebron

Lol ok "Riley is God"

same wade that is clinging to a loser team to cash checks?

Yep that's him. How was Kobes last couple years? Injured. Didn't matter.

[OtW]

Read on Twitter

What connections does Chad have with Hayward? Feel like he is just a twitter troll.

[Rapaz]

With George Hill agreeing to a three-year, $57 million contract with Sacramento (according to multiple reports), the Lakers - who had been talking to Hill about a one-year contract - still have $17 million in cap space and could possibly offer much or all of that to Waiters. The Lakers also have been linked to Rajon Rondo.

For now, both Waiters and Johnson remain uncommitted, and the Heat is expected to circle back to both whether it lands Hayward or not.

Rudy Gay remains interested in the Heat and looms as a possibility if Hayward eschews the Heat.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article159581434.html

[Heat3]

Lol ok "Riley is God"

same wade that is clinging to a loser team to cash checks?

Yep that's him. How was Kobes last couple years? Injured. Didn't matter.

and what in the hell does kobe have to do with the Heat?