OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble

Post #1 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:20 pm

Starting a new thread cause the last one is well over 100 pages.

Continue.

Post #2 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:22 pm

What about targeting Avery Bradley? We could let Dre walk and then sign a vet minimum pg.

Post #3 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:23 pm

Topics at end of last thread:

• Summer league guys
• Trading for Smarf
• Salary matching
• Why retired mods suck
• just checking if bondom reads this

Thabo Sefolosha · Post #4 » by **Thabo Sefolosha** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:23 pm

Love the new title

spearsy23 · Post #5 » by **spearsy23** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:23 pm

Monte ellis? *ducks*

Pillendreher · Post #6 » by **Pillendreher** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:24 pm

Knrstz wrote:What about targeting Avery Bradley? We could let Dre walk and then sign a vet minimum pg.

Nah. Too small and about to be way more expensive than Dre.

spearsy23 · Post #7 » by **spearsy23** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:26 pm

Knrstz wrote:What about targeting Avery Bradley? We could let Dre walk and then sign a vet minimum pg.

Targeting him with what? We don't have picks or cap space.

Post #8 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:28 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
Knrstz wrote:What about targeting Avery Bradley? We could let Dre walk and then sign a vet minimum pg.

Nah. Too small and about to be way more expensive than Dre.

Does he make enough of a difference to be worth it? If he does then move Adams at seasons end. I feel like we need to be aggressive if we want to have any shot at retaining George. This isn't terribly far away.

Curry - Westbrook
George -Durant
Bradley- Thompson
Patterson- Green
Adams- Pachulia

Post #9 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:30 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:What about targeting Avery Bradley? We could let Dre walk and then sign a vet minimum pg.

Targeting him with what? We don't have picks or cap space.

Ferguson, Grant and Chicago 2018 pick. That gives Ainge an asset, cheap salary and almost a late first round pick. They key is if we could move Kanter to
Open space for Bradley.

ts23_ · Post #10 » by **ts23_** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:31 pm

First page.

Let's get Smart :crazy:

Pillendreher · Post #11 » by **Pillendreher** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:32 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:What about targeting Avery Bradley? We could let Dre walk and then sign a vet minimum pg.

Targeting him with what? We don't have picks or cap space.

Yeah. They might have to dump Smart, but they won't just give Bradley away for nothing.

Post #12 » by **bondom34** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:36 pm

spearsy: RE SL Game: Semaj w/ the 7 TOs :lol:

Post #13 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:37 pm

Knrstz wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:What about targeting Avery Bradley? We could let Dre walk and then sign a vet minimum pg.

Targeting him with what? We don't have picks or cap space.

Ferguson, Grant and Chicago 2018 pick. That gives Ainge an asset, cheap salary and almost a late first round pick. They key is if we could move Kanter to
Open space for Bradley.

Salaries aren't even anywhere in the realm of matching. And moving Kanter doesn't open enough space.

Dn4sty · Post #14 » by **Dn4sty** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:44 pm

Knrstz wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
Knrstz wrote:What about targeting Avery Bradley? We could let Dre walk and then sign a vet minimum pg.

Nah. Too small and about to be way more expensive than Dre.

Does he make enough of a difference to be worth it? If he does then move Adams at seasons end. I feel like we need to be aggressive if we want to have any shot at retaining George. This isn't terribly far away.

Curry - Westbrook
George -Durant
Bradley- Thompson
Patterson- Green
Adams- Pachulia

Getting Bradley would have to via a 3 way deal. Maybe using the TPE to pick up a trade piece and then packaging it to a 3rd team who could help fill in the picks necessary to get Boston to move Bradley

Mudiay (TPE) and Kanter to Hawks
Bulls 2018 2nd, and Future 2nd to Boston
Bradley to OKC

I doubt Boston thinks that is enough value for Bradley. Maybe you add Grant to Boston, but thats still doubtful.

Post #15 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:45 pm

Andre Roberstan wrote:
Knrstz wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:Targeting him with what? We don't have picks or cap space.

Ferguson, Grant and Chicago 2018 pick. That gives Ainge an asset, cheap salary and almost a late first round pick. They key is if we could move Kanter to
Open space for Bradley.

Salaries aren't even anywhere in the realm of matching. And moving Kanter doesn't open enough space.

So basically even though Bradley makes only $4 million more than Smart, there isn't anyway to make it work?

Thunder Up · Post #16 » by **Thunder Up** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:48 pm

I don't understand why everyone wants to move Kanter so badly (unless it somehow nets you a very good two-way player)
He will be something OKC needs very badly against 95% of the league through the regular season, and in the playoffs with the right personnel around him defensively (which we now have with 2Pat and PG13)

If they can magically snag Smart for a second rounder or two then I would be impressed... I would think some teams would go bidding higher than that on his services

Balkman32 · Post #17 » by **Balkman32** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:48 pm

If the Thunder can get Smart for some 2nd round picks it would be great. He is a RFA next year. I think we should try to keep the young players on the roster.

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Pillendreher · Post #18 » by **Pillendreher** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:49 pm

Thunder Up wrote:I don't understand why everyone wants to move Kanter so badly (unless it somehow nets you a very good two-way player)
He will be something OKC needs very badly against 95% of the league through the regular season, and in the playoffs with the right personnel around him defensively (which we now have with 2Pat and PG13)

If they can magically snag Smart for a second rounder or two then I would be impressed... I would think some teams would go bidding higher than that on his services

Because Kanter sucks and is a waste of money. That's why.

Thunder Up · Post #19 » by **Thunder Up** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:50 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
Thunder Up wrote:I don't understand why everyone wants to move Kanter so badly (unless it somehow nets you a very good two-way player)
He will be something OKC needs very badly against 95% of the league through the regular season, and in the playoffs with the right personnel around him defensively (which we now have with 2Pat and PG13)

If they can magically snag Smart for a second rounder or two then I would be impressed... I would think some teams would go bidding higher than that on his services

Because Kanter sucks and is a waste of money. That's why.

Very false

Post #20 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:51 pm

Knrstz wrote:
Andre Roberstan wrote:
Knrstz wrote:
Ferguson, Grant and Chicago 2018 pick. That gives Ainge an asset, cheap salary and almost a late first round pick. They key is if we could move Kanter to
Open space for Bradley.

Salaries aren't even anywhere in the realm of matching. And moving Kanter doesn't open enough space.

So basically even though Bradley makes only $4 million more than Smart, there isn't anyway to make it work?

Quick and dirty trade calculator.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BEMHYuYxQNCmr0IKPThoFlmFP8eIrSOAPYtaRuAjb5Q/edit?usp=sharing

175% of outgoing salary plus 100,000 dollars to make it work.