Fantasy Trade Thread

[the_process]

Boston is in trouble and you want to give them 2 assets to help them.

Fultz
Redick
Simmons
Embiid
Okafor

This lineup could be incredible. Embiid could be the ultimate PF for short durations, teams would not be able to stop them. The defense could be very strong.

I didn't know people like you still existed. There's been more confirmed sightings of Passenger Pigeons in the past 3 months than Prokafors.

What team would have a front court to stop them?

Playing Embiid on the perimeter chasing 4's wastes his best talent.

Okafor can be stopped by any team that knows how to run PNR's.

[Chris76]

I didn't know people like you still existed. There's been more confirmed sightings of Passenger Pigeons in the past 3 months than Prokafors.

What team would have a front court to stop them?

Playing Embiid on the perimeter chasing 4's wastes his best talent.

Okafor can be stopped by any team that knows how to run PNR's.

If Okafor gets better position for team defense, his offense will be worth the gamble. I agree, Embiid is better at the 5, but don't you think he could be a great 4 (like Porzinga), also this is for short durations. Teams don't have 2 bigs that could deal with Simmons, Embiid, and Okafor.

[Unbreakable99]

What team would have a front court to stop them?

Playing Embiid on the perimeter chasing 4's wastes his best talent.

Okafor can be stopped by any team that knows how to run PNR's.

If Okafor gets better position for team defense, his offense will be worth the gamble. I agree, Embiid is better at the 5, but don't you think he could be a great 4 (like Porzinga), also this is for short durations. Teams don't have 2 bigs that could deal with Simmons, Embiid, and Okafor.

Yeah. Great idea. Let's move our best player in his best position to accommodate a lesser player who can't protect the rim or rebound. I thought this idea died months ago.

[Chris76]

Playing Embiid on the perimeter chasing 4's wastes his best talent.

Okafor can be stopped by any team that knows how to run PNR's.

If Okafor gets better position for team defense, his offense will be worth the gamble. I agree, Embiid is better at the 5, but don't you think he could be a great 4 (like Porzinga), also this is for short durations. Teams don't have 2 bigs that could deal with Simmons, Embiid, and Okafor.

Yeah. Great idea. Let's move our best player in his best position to accommodate a lesser player who can't protect the rim or rebound. I thought this idea died months ago.

Sure, it's not a great idea to try Embiid at the 4, but having an option to have a strong lineup against certain match ups is intriguing. I would like to see it fail before writing it off too early. Do you think Embiid can't play PF, for short durations? Anyway, Okafor/Holmes and Dario could be a promising combination for the 2nd unit, most teams don't have backup bigs that could stop Okafor's offense. It's just an extra option that BB could utilize, if it works well.

[Unbreakable99]

If Okafor gets better position for team defense, his offense will be worth the gamble. I agree, Embiid is better at the 5, but don't you think he could be a great 4 (like Porzinga), also this is for short durations. Teams don't have 2 bigs that could deal with Simmons, Embiid, and Okafor.

Yeah. Great idea. Let's move our best player in his best position to accommodate a lesser player who can't protect the rim or rebound. I thought this idea died months ago.

Sure, it's not a great idea to try Embiid at the 4, but having an option to have a strong lineup against certain match ups is intriguing. I would like to see it fail before writing it off too early. Do you think Embiid can't play PF, for short durations? Anyway, Okafor/Holmes and Dario could be a promising combination for the 2nd unit, most teams don't have backup bigs that could stop Okafor's offense. It's just an extra option that BB could utilize, if it works well.

No I don't want to see Embiid play any position except center. It's absurd to even suggest that would be a good idea. Embiid is arguable the best defensive center in the league. Would you want Gobert guarding PFs. Think of how that sounds.

[clownclownclown]

Okafor for Hollis-Jefferson?
Between Mozgov and Hamilton, Okafor might turn out to be quite the revelation for them and we get ~3.5 million toward the Covington fund/RHJ.

[Chris76]

Yeah. Great idea. Let's move our best player in his best position to accommodate a lesser player who can't protect the rim or rebound. I thought this idea died months ago.

Sure, it's not a great idea to try Embiid at the 4, but having an option to have a strong lineup against certain match ups is intriguing. I would like to see it fail before writing it off too early. Do you think Embiid can't play PF, for short durations? Anyway, Okafor/Holmes and Dario could be a promising combination for the 2nd unit, most teams don't have backup bigs that could stop Okafor's offense. It's just an extra option that BB could utilize, if it works well.

No I don't want to see Embiid play any position except center. It's absurd to even suggest that would be a good idea. Embiid is arguable the best defensive center in the league. Would you want Gobert guarding PFs. Think of how that sounds.

Gobert has no offense 5 ft from the basket, Embiid is gifted like Porzingas. Embiid could play the 4, if the team benefited from it. Anyway, having 2 sharp shooters at the perimeter and 3 bigs, Simmons, Embiid, and Okafor, for an overwhelming size could be promising. For example, Okafor and Embiid would overpower Tristan Thompson and Kevin Love, Embiid could easily cover Love on the perimeter, for short durations.

[Unbreakable99]

Sure, it's not a great idea to try Embiid at the 4, but having an option to have a strong lineup against certain match ups is intriguing. I would like to see it fail before writing it off too early. Do you think Embiid can't play PF, for short durations? Anyway, Okafor/Holmes and Dario could be a promising combination for the 2nd unit, most teams don't have backup bigs that could stop Okafor's offense. It's just an extra option that BB could utilize, if it works well.

No I don't want to see Embiid play any position except center. It's absurd to even suggest that would be a good idea. Embiid is arguable the best defensive center in the league. Would you want Gobert guarding PFs. Think of how that sounds.

Gobert has no offense 5 ft from the basket, Embiid is gifted like Porzingas. Embiid could play the 4, if the team benefited from it. Anyway, having 2 sharp shooters at the perimeter and 3 bigs, Simmons, Embiid, and Okafor, for an overwhelming size could be promising. For example, Okafor and Embiid would overpower Tristan Thompson and Kevin Love, Embiid could easily cover Love on the perimeter, for short durations.

So let me get this straight. You want to take arguably the best defensive player off from his best position and away from the basket to guard PFs to make room for a non rim protecting non rebounding center in Okafor? Is that what you're saying?

[Chris76]

No I don't want to see Embiid play any position except center. It's absurd to even suggest that would be a good idea. Embiid is arguable the best defensive center in the league. Would you want Gobert guarding PFs. Think of how that sounds.

Gobert has no offense 5 ft from the basket, Embiid is gifted like Porzingas. Embiid could play the 4, if the team benefited from it. Anyway, having 2 sharp shooters at the perimeter and 3 bigs, Simmons, Embiid, and Okafor, for an overwhelming size could be promising. For example, Okafor and Embiid would overpower Tristan Thompson and Kevin Love, Embiid could easily cover Love on the perimeter, for short durations.

So let me get this straight. You want to take arguably the best defensive player off from his best position and away from the basket to guard PFs to make room for a non rim protecting non rebounding center in Okafor? Is that what you're saying?

I'm trying to prove a point that Okafor could be an unique option in certain situations. Whether it's Embiid or Simmons at the 4, most people see no benefit with Okafor and I think it's a mistake without given him a chance on a team that wants to win, now. Embiid and Okafor could be a dominating center rotation that other teams would have a difficult time defending.

[MatthewGeigerII]

the hawks center position on their depth chart is atrocious now... could be a player for jah? going young it seems..

assets we could try and get...

all their own 1sts

2018 first round draft pick from Minnesota
Minnesota's 1st round pick to Atlanta protected for selections 1-14 in 2018, 1-14 in 2019 and 1-14 in 2020; if Minnesota has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Atlanta by 2020, then Minnesota will instead convey its 2020 2nd round pick and 2021 2nd round pick to Atlanta [Atlanta-Minnesota, 2/10/2015]

2019 first round draft pick from Cleveland
Cleveland's 1st round pick to Atlanta protected for selections 1-10 in 2019 and 1-10 in 2020; if Cleveland has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Atlanta by 2020, then Cleveland will instead convey its 2021 2nd round pick and 2022 2nd round pick to Atlanta [Atlanta-Cleveland, 1/7/2017]

Jamal Crawford - 1 year $14 mil :/ ... would be another nice vet off the bench but would need a 1st with him to take on $.

bellinelli - 1 year - 6 mil.

bembry?


i would try to get some picks for jah (maybe take on an expiring to get the better pick)

[TTP]

Gobert has no offense 5 ft from the basket, Embiid is gifted like Porzingas. Embiid could play the 4, if the team benefited from it. Anyway, having 2 sharp shooters at the perimeter and 3 bigs, Simmons, Embiid, and Okafor, for an overwhelming size could be promising. For example, Okafor and Embiid would overpower Tristan Thompson and Kevin Love, Embiid could easily cover Love on the perimeter, for short durations.

So let me get this straight. You want to take arguably the best defensive player off from his best position and away from the basket to guard PFs to make room for a non rim protecting non rebounding center in Okafor? Is that what you're saying?

I'm trying to prove a point that Okafor could be an unique option in certain situations. Whether it's Embiid or Simmons at the 4, most people see no benefit with Okafor and I think it's a mistake without given him a chance on a team that wants to win, now. Embiid and Okafor could be a dominating center rotation that other teams would have a difficult time defending.

Were you living at the International Space Station the last two years or something?

Okafor has been given nearly two years worth of chances. Okafor has been awful with all of his chances. We tried Embiid and Okafor together and it was a predictable disaster.

Give Okafor a chance
Team that wants to win

Pick one.

[Vince5693]

Fultz / TJ / bayless
Bradley / reddick/ tlc
Crowder / roco/ korkmaz
Simmons / saric / bolden
Embiid / Holmes / okafor

I'd hate to help the celtics but this would be an amazing lineup.

[shlo]

Fultz / TJ / bayless
Bradley / reddick/ tlc
Crowder / roco/ korkmaz
Simmons / saric / bolden
Embiid / Holmes / okafor

I'd hate to help the celtics but this would be an amazing lineup.

I'd love to get Crowder.

[the_process]

Fultz / TJ / bayless
Bradley / reddick/ tlc
Crowder / roco/ korkmaz
Simmons / saric / bolden
Embiid / Holmes / okafor

I'd hate to help the celtics but this would be an amazing lineup.

Covington starts over Crowder IMO. Bradley would be backing up Fultz and Redick. And Okafor would be going out to BOS.

Okafor and 2020 PHI 1st for Crowder and Bradley. There is no way Boston isn't getting wrecked in a deal they have to do to get Hayward.

[Vince5693]

Fultz / TJ / bayless
Bradley / reddick/ tlc
Crowder / roco/ korkmaz
Simmons / saric / bolden
Embiid / Holmes / okafor

I'd hate to help the celtics but this would be an amazing lineup.

Covington starts over Crowder IMO. Bradley would be backing up Fultz and Redick. And Okafor would be going out to BOS.

Okafor and 2020 PHI 1st for Crowder and Bradley. There is no way Boston isn't getting wrecked in a deal they have to do to get Hayward.

No point in them taking on okafor salary

[Chris76]

So let me get this straight. You want to take arguably the best defensive player off from his best position and away from the basket to guard PFs to make room for a non rim protecting non rebounding center in Okafor? Is that what you're saying?

I'm trying to prove a point that Okafor could be an unique option in certain situations. Whether it's Embiid or Simmons at the 4, most people see no benefit with Okafor and I think it's a mistake without given him a chance on a team that wants to win, now. Embiid and Okafor could be a dominating center rotation that other teams would have a difficult time defending.

Were you living at the International Space Station the last two years or something?

Okafor has been given nearly two years worth of chances. Okafor has been awful with all of his chances. We tried Embiid and Okafor together and it was a predictable disaster.

Give Okafor a chance
Team that wants to win

Pick one.

Okafor played with terrible guards, TJ,Sergio, and others were bad at defense, the whole team was bad, too judge him on those games is unfair. I admit he looked bad when he stopped trying for whatever reason. If, Okafor turns it around, there's rumors of him getting in better shape, he can be a valuable asset. Why throw that away for peanuts, when he could prove in a few games if he fits or not. Anyway, Okafor played well in a few games, he showed he can score when not being doubled. Also, the space station has League Pass.

[Baller1234a]

Fultz / TJ / bayless
Bradley / reddick/ tlc
Crowder / roco/ korkmaz
Simmons / saric / bolden
Embiid / Holmes / okafor

I'd hate to help the celtics but this would be an amazing lineup.

What are we getting back?

Bradley and Crowder for saric and roco

Basically crowder for saric
Bradley for roco

[TTP]

I'm trying to prove a point that Okafor could be an unique option in certain situations. Whether it's Embiid or Simmons at the 4, most people see no benefit with Okafor and I think it's a mistake without given him a chance on a team that wants to win, now. Embiid and Okafor could be a dominating center rotation that other teams would have a difficult time defending.

Were you living at the International Space Station the last two years or something?

Okafor has been given nearly two years worth of chances. Okafor has been awful with all of his chances. We tried Embiid and Okafor together and it was a predictable disaster.

Give Okafor a chance
Team that wants to win

Pick one.

Okafor played with terrible guards, TJ,Sergio, and others were bad at defense, the whole team was bad, too judge him on those games is unfair. I admit he looked bad when he stopped trying for whatever reason. If, Okafor turns it around, there's rumors of him getting in better shape, he can be a valuable asset. Why throw that away for peanuts, when he could prove in a few games if he fits or not. Anyway, Okafor played well in a few games, he showed he can score when not being doubled. Also, the space station has League Pass.

More like the guards played with a terrible center in Okafor. You use those guards as a constant to compare lineups involving Okafor and Embiid/Noel/Holmes/Long. Why are the others succeeding with the same guards?

Lol @ the bolded. So we should just ignore two years of evidence for every player on the roster because the team was bad?

I've already told you why but I can't make you understand it. Because we need to make a decision on Okafor's option in October, and I'm skeptical that he will continue to be an asset if we pick up his 4th year option. I also don't think he's a valuable asset now and don't think he's worth the roster spot he'd be taking. You want to keep him on the off chance that he turns into a non-rebounding version of Enes Kanter, a player that can't be on the court vs the best teams in the league?

[Vince5693]

Fultz / TJ / bayless
Bradley / reddick/ tlc
Crowder / roco/ korkmaz
Simmons / saric / bolden
Embiid / Holmes / okafor

I'd hate to help the celtics but this would be an amazing lineup.

What are we getting back?

Bradley and Crowder for saric and roco

Basically crowder for saric
Bradley for roco

I wouldn't give up Roco or saric. It would have to be a 1 way trade our way to relieve some cap for them

[Cheatergriffin]

I'm trying to prove a point that Okafor could be an unique option in certain situations. Whether it's Embiid or Simmons at the 4, most people see no benefit with Okafor and I think it's a mistake without given him a chance on a team that wants to win, now. Embiid and Okafor could be a dominating center rotation that other teams would have a difficult time defending.

Were you living at the International Space Station the last two years or something?

Okafor has been given nearly two years worth of chances. Okafor has been awful with all of his chances. We tried Embiid and Okafor together and it was a predictable disaster.

Give Okafor a chance
Team that wants to win

Pick one.

Okafor played with terrible guards, TJ,Sergio, and others were bad at defense, the whole team was bad, too judge him on those games is unfair. I admit he looked bad when he stopped trying for whatever reason. If, Okafor turns it around, there's rumors of him getting in better shape, he can be a valuable asset. Why throw that away for peanuts, when he could prove in a few games if he fits or not. Anyway, Okafor played well in a few games, he showed he can score when not being doubled. Also, the space station has League Pass.

Everybody every year gets in better shape. Its not his offense that anyone is concerned about other than the fact hes a black hole and clogs the lane. His defense and rebounding as a big along with effort is plain and simple some of the worst ive ever seen.

I think ur being extremely optimistic and trying to make a point, even if he does score say 20pts its gonna be when we are down by 20 and jah gets his empty stats.

Is he in a unique situation? Yes, but not for positive reasons. Hes the 3rd pick in an nba draft who is 2 years away from his contract year and people cant wait for him to leave or be traded even with the embiid injury concerns. Ill take the 2nd rd pick from bowling green everyday over the 3rd pick from duke.

If he is ever a player in the league it will be on a brooklyn type squad where he puts up stats that look good on a ppg stat sheet, but only until once u dived into +/- or advanced metrics you will see the real picture.

I really dont understand how people havent seen the reality of jah yet.