Knicks sign Hardaway

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #901 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:39 am

Mecca wrote:
DaGawd wrote:Hardaway Jr is gonna serve a lot of crow on this board...and GB

Dudes have not watched him hoop since he was a Knick. His improvement this year was spectacular. Dude can very well become a core piece.

Is that why the Hawks are going to let him walk freely out the door? Do you think he fits well with Frank when neither are great ball handlers?

Mecca · Post #902 » by **Mecca** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:39 am

poeman wrote:Ok after calming down...Some serious thoughts.

Hardaway Jr has really improved with Atlanta and he can be a solid scoring option. Dude literally is a player that can shoot it well, I think Dotson and him will thrive with Frank.

But the money is def $50 million overspent.

This leads me to believe, Knicks are going to trade Melo and Courtney Lee who is a GREAT trade asset. We need space and I think with Melo going out Lee will get us picks within a Melo trade

I felt like that was inevitable. You can't make this move without moving Lee AND Melo.

THJ is our #2 scorer next year.

Post #903 » by **K_ick_God** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:39 am

Why do we have to deal with this Brickley guy now?

F N 11 · Post #904 » by **F N 11** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:39 am

Reddick got 23. THJr is 24 for 8 more months. He could be 27 and a free agent. Not a bad deal I guess. At least he's young.

poeman · Post #905 » by **poeman** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:39 am

Crabbe got 4 years $74.3 million last year
Evan Turner got 4 years $70 million last year

I guess that is the market for supporting shooting guards that can be a starter

AmazingJason · Post #906 » by **AmazingJason** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:39 am

Mecca wrote:
DaGawd wrote:Hardaway Jr is gonna serve a lot of crow on this board...and GB

Dudes have not watched him hoop since he was a Knick. His improvement this year was spectacular. Dude can very well become a core piece.

Where is he going to play? Right now he's the backup to Lee.

I have a feeling we're going to dump Lee for nothing.

Not to mention, are we really going into the season with Baker, Frank and Randle as our PGs? Because at this juncture, none of them can even bring the ball up the court without issues.

NYKnicksFTW · Post #907 » by **NYKnicksFTW** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:39 am

Jay10 wrote:
NYKnicksFTW wrote:
Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:Idk why you guys are mad.

This only helps the tank!!!!

http://www.tankathon.com/

How does it help the tank? By tying up money for the next 4 years? Sorry, if we're going to tank, I'd rather tank AND have cap flexibility.

Is it really tying up money if Lee, O'Quinn, and Carmelo might not be on the roster on opening night?

Melo needs to be traded, but Lee and O'Quinn are on really cap friendly deals. Not that they shouldn't be traded as well, but they're hardly albatrosses on our cap space.

F N 11 · Post #908 » by **F N 11** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:39 am

KnicksGod wrote:Why do we have to deal with this Brickley guy now?

He was a former assistant and well known Melo supporter.

Mecca · Post #909 » by **Mecca** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:40 am

Knicks_Fan2 wrote:
Mecca wrote:
DaGawd wrote:Hardaway Jr is gonna serve a lot of crow on this board...and GB

Dudes have not watched him hoop since he was a Knick. His improvement this year was spectacular. Dude can very well become a core piece.

Is that why the Hawks are going to let him walk freely out the door? Do you think he fits well with Frank when neither are great ball handlers?

Give Frank a year to get his handle right. He's going to need to learn how to play on ball.

DLTGWH · Post #910 » by **DLTGWH** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:40 am

Take a deep breath everyone. Better to lose with young talent than with old has beens.

mwm78 · Post #911 » by **mwm78** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:40 am

Bklyn&company wrote:So if we sign THJr... is that our off season? Seems like Mills was serious about no DRose... good. Is Melo still getting traded? Is Lee going or stay? Can we get Noah out of here?

Melo could still possibly be traded if a legit offer comes about.
Lee I would guess is also available if THJR is a Knick and ATL doesn't match
Noah is going no where!

Mecca · Post #912 » by **Mecca** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:40 am

AmazingJason wrote:
Mecca wrote:
DaGawd wrote:Hardaway Jr is gonna serve a lot of crow on this board...and GB

Dudes have not watched him hoop since he was a Knick. His improvement this year was spectacular. Dude can very well become a core piece.

Where is he going to play? Right now he's the backup to Lee.

Lee and Melo are gone.

Greenie · Post #913 » by **Greenie** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:40 am

mwm78 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:im going to bed, sleeping on it, and I better wake up with some kind of clue why this offer was made...

maybe you will wake up and ATL matched the offer

Polk377 · Post #914 » by **Polk377** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:40 am

MP4LIFE wrote:Only trolls are supporting this move around the forum.

The actual people who understand ball know his is terrible.

Don't assume people are trolling because they like this move. A lot of us actually liked Hardaway Jr when he was here. He was a first team all rookie-selection with us and was one of the only bright spots on that miserable team. He can flat out score and does it well from 3, taking it to the basket, off the dribble, spot up, off screens, he can do it all. I think right now he is better than guys like Reddick, Crabbe, Porter and many others who just got paid more than him.

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #915 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:40 am

ctorres wrote:Knicks probably see a lot of Allan Houston- like qualities in THjr. He will be a 25, 26, 27, and 28 years of age during the next 4 seasons. This is the right time to invest in his future.

He will be a potential trade asset too if his stats are where I project them to be.

Potential trade asset at $20 million per season and, at best, a barely average defensive player nah. Why invest in his future when he will be exiting his prime when our youth will be entering their prime?

3toheadmelo · Post #916 » by **3toheadmelo** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:41 am

if he can put up those post all star numbers next season ill be satisfied

Mecca · Post #917 » by **Mecca** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:41 am

Polk377 wrote:
MP4LIFE wrote:Only trolls are supporting this move around the forum.

The actual people who understand ball know his is terrible.

Don't assume people are trolling because they like this move. A lot of us actually liked Hardaway Jr when he was here. He was a first team all rookie-selection with us and was one of the only bright spots on that miserable team. He can flat out score and does it well from 3, taking it to the basket, off the dribble, spot up, off screens, he can do it all. I think right now he is better than guys like Reddick, Crabbe, Porter and many others who just got paid more than him.

You seriously think THJ who I like is better than Otto Porter?

wow is all I have to say.

Greenie · Post #918 » by **Greenie** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:41 am

poeman wrote:Crabbe got 4 years $74.3 million last year
Evan Turner got 4 years $70 million last year

I guess that is the market for supporting shooting guards that can be a starter

I'm trying to tell people.
Bazmore makes more.

Dkillanyk4lyf · Post #919 » by **Dkillanyk4lyf** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:41 am

robillionaire wrote:
Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:Idk why you guys are mad.

This only helps the tank!!!!

http://www.tankathon.com/

How does it help the tank? THJ is a good player, we will win some games solely because of him

Thjr is is not good enough to get you wins.

All he'll do is make the loses more interesting.

We are going to be the worst team in the league next year, and this signing only enhances that goal.

Post #920 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:41 am

K P 6 wrote:Reddick got 23. THJr is 24 for 8 more months. He could be 27 and a free agent. Not a bad deal I guess. At least he's young.

Is this seriously the logic that people use to analyze transactions?