Knicks sign Hardaway

[adjacent2bench]

Not worried about the money

Just worried about the tank...

[Garbagelo]

If you were given a choice between THJ or Evan Fournier, who would you choose?

[Kurt Rambis]

Are we gonna get Shumpert back too?

[Kurt Rambis]

Not worried about the money

Just worried about the tank...

Hardaway would help tank though. Cant defend, can't rebound & chucker. If he win one for us, he can lose five.

[FutureKnicksGM]

**** Tim is going to get hot and win us some games, derailing the tank. We could have been Brooklyn bad. SMH.

[DowNY]

Knicks fans overrate all their young players so that likely would have happened.

Under no circumstance is this a good move.

The Knicks, in classic Knicks fashion, overpaid for a mediocre shooting guard who only does one thing well.

There are certain people on this forum who like to be contrarians and go against the grain, though. They'll blindly support this move as a result and try to convince you that because Tim Hardaway Jr is 25 years old and went from a D-Leaguer to a rotation player that this justifies his $71 million contract.

This is an average starter contract now. People have to deal with it. Time to move with the times.
The only thing to doubt is if he's ready for that starting SG role.

Courtney Lee deal was a super bargain last season & that was because he took less to play with Rose/Noah/Melo, thought it was a win now team & he's is over 30 & valued the extra year more than $$ per season.

Look at Crabbe ($19M per), Bazemore ($16.9M this season) & I bet KCP get more than this. Timmy is better than those players if we basing everything on the now, not 2 years ago or 3/4 yrs ago when he was here.

Hell, a player like Chandler Parsons is getting $23M.
Harrison Barnes is getting $22M.
Victor Oladipo at $22Mil.
Ryan Anderson at $19M.
Wesley Matthews at $17.5M.

I'm sorry, Tim Hardaway is better than Wesley Matthews right now. He's all around better, he's younger & healthier. He's better than Crabbe & his $19M too. He's in that Oladipo bracket imo & if he was playing on a good team like OKC, he would've got a similar contract like Oladipo.

An average starter contract is $10 - $12 million, not nearly $20 million for a guy who has done nothing in his career but be mediocre, and hasn't even started much himself.

Chandler Parsons and Ryan Anderson are some of the worst contracts in the league. Surprised you didn't mention Deng and Noah too. If your best argument to defend a contract is to compare it to some of the worst in the league and say "hey, it's not as bad as THIS!" then your argument has already failed.

Where are you coming up with the idea that Hardaway Jr is a good player? Never shot above 36% from 3, does nothing offensively but chuck shots, doesn't rebound, doesn't pass, doesn't play defense and is a low IQ player. But he's only 25. Let's throw $18 million at him!

How long are you gonna try and sell yourself on this terrible contract? Until you actually watch Tim on the court and realize he is massively overpaid and we can't trade him anywhere because of his garbage contract and 15% trade kicker? It will be too late then.

Where are you coming up with the idea that Hardaway Jr. is a bum?
When's the last time you've seen him play?

[Knicksfan20]

Why couldn't we just have signed nobody and stuck with sucking? That would have been cool.

[Thugger HBC]

Timmy certainly has improved, but not this much. I don't see the Hawks matching this one, but I surely hope they do.

[Thugger HBC]

Timmy certainly has improved, but not this much. I don't see the Hawks matching this one, but I surely hope they do.

[Fat Kat]

Absolutely disgraceful

[Oscirus]

He saw the contract Marks gave to Otto and emulated it. Except the genius thought he was giving the knicks a discount because it wasn't the max. Mills needs to get the **** off this team for this ****. Not kicked upstairs but sent home for good this time.

[Fat Kat]

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[Dr. Detfink]

This signing just reeks of Dolan using his puppet Wind Mills to sign a player in yet another effort to try and make the playoffs.

[ozwizard8]

Victor Oladipo = $22Mil
Allen Crabbe = $19M
Wesley Matthews = $17.5M
Kent Bazemore = $16.9M

as I said, this is the new norm. $10-12M deal in the old CBA. Deal with it.
I take Tim Hardaway over 3 of those 4 names & depending on this season, he might be pushing Oladipo out the way.

All those players are better than THJr.
Those 4 players better than him but i'd still consider them bad contracts.

4 year deal for THJR is so bad. Its almost J.Noah level bad. He still sucks. I'd rather sign A.Bradley or M.Smart next year.
72m for poor mens Jamal Crawford!
It can kill Porzingis era.

Fire Mills!
Bring a guy like S.Presti, Morey.

[GEOLINK]

Tim Hardaway Jr. isn't a household name. How the hell would Dolan know enough to demand him signed?

[DowNY]

Tbh honest though, Steve Mills should've BEEN gone. Once Phil was hired , Mills should've been shown the door. lmao oh well.

[DowNY]

Victor Oladipo = $22Mil
Allen Crabbe = $19M
Wesley Matthews = $17.5M
Kent Bazemore = $16.9M

as I said, this is the new norm. $10-12M deal in the old CBA. Deal with it.
I take Tim Hardaway over 3 of those 4 names & depending on this season, he might be pushing Oladipo out the way.

All those players are better than THJr.
Those 4 players better than him but i'd still consider them bad contracts.

4 year deal for THJR is so bad. Its almost J.Noah level bad. He still sucks. I'd rather sign A.Bradley or M.Smart next year.
72m for poor mens Jamal Crawford!
It can kill Porzingis era.

Fire Mills!
Bring a guy like S.Presti, Morey.

He beat Bazmeore for his job. Tf you mean all those players are better? When's the last time you've seen Tim play?
The only player out of those 4 I take over him right now is Oladipo.

[DowNY]

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The same tool that craps on Willy Hernangomez

[ozwizard8]

Victor Oladipo = $22Mil
Allen Crabbe = $19M
Wesley Matthews = $17.5M
Kent Bazemore = $16.9M

as I said, this is the new norm. $10-12M deal in the old CBA. Deal with it.
I take Tim Hardaway over 3 of those 4 names & depending on this season, he might be pushing Oladipo out the way.

All those players are better than THJr.
Those 4 players better than him but i'd still consider them bad contracts.

4 year deal for THJR is so bad. Its almost J.Noah level bad. He still sucks. I'd rather sign A.Bradley or M.Smart next year.
72m for poor mens Jamal Crawford!
It can kill Porzingis era.

Fire Mills!
Bring a guy like S.Presti, Morey.

He beat Bazmeore for his job. Tf you mean all those players are better? When's the last time you've seen Tim play?
The only player out of those 4 I take over him right now is Oladipo.

Which game did you watch last year?
I guess he defended some bum and scored with %55 fg in that game.

He's not a good rebounder. Not good defender.
He can score but he's not efficient at all.

Just check his stats. He got slightly better in 4 years.
Go look at Otto Porter's stats and you'll see development.

[omerome]

Ugh. I am already bummed that this team will suck another year, and now I have to watch them suck another year with yet, another overpaid player I don't want. This sucks.