2017 Nets Offseason Thread II

[MrDollarBills]

the only real threat I can think of is ATL having THJR off the books... how much space do they have? Would KCP jump on an offer from them? He did play at GA Tech, right?

Not sure....why would he wait if ATL can offer a nice deal?

i'd rather take this guy for less than max instead of losing out on him because we want to put the wizards in salary cap hell. aw man, Marks kind of f'd up here is my initial view

This is a hot take dude.

[MrDollarBills]

I'd rather roll the cap over and just go with Skil, Whitehead, Harris, Goodwin, hell even resign McDaniels.

I'm a STRONG pass on KCP, I just don't see any value relative to just going with the status quo, even we get KCP at some discounted rate. This would be Marks's first bust for me.

He can defend and hit threes. How would that be a bust?

KCP is better than all five of those players....not sure I follow you?

[Rich Rane]

That's not inside info or anything, its just what everybody is thinking.

Awesome. Doesn't exactly calm the nerves.

[MrDollarBills]

I don't see anyone on the Pistons board really clamoring to keep KCP either.

The Pistons fans were saying during the season that Pope was the only dude that gave a damn while the others dogged it. That's all I need to hear.

[SpeedyG]

I don't see anyone on the Pistons board really clamoring to keep KCP either.

The Pistons fans were saying during the season that Pope was the only dude that gave a damn while the others dogged it. That's all I need to hear.

I've seen posts recently after the Bradley deal that they rather dump Reggie and keep KCP to pair with Bradley.

[steady]

I have a feeling the Nets will promise him around 4/80 if the Wizards match Porter.

I don't think anyone will go over the THJ deal. Could be wrong, but don't see a big bidding war because teams don't have much room.

You're probably right, I just have a bad gut feeling that Marks may get a little too excited that's all lol.

Just my guess but that does not seem to be Marks style.

[Roy Tarpley]

I'd rather roll the cap over and just go with Skil, Whitehead, Harris, Goodwin, hell even resign McDaniels.

I'm a STRONG pass on KCP, I just don't see any value relative to just going with the status quo, even we get KCP at some discounted rate. This would be Marks's first bust for me.

He can defend and hit threes. How would that be a bust?

KCP is better than all five of those players....not sure I follow you?

Wait, aren't you president and CEO of DON"T SPEND A DAMN DIME?

He can defend but is not outstanding at it. He can hit threes but is 33% career, which is worse than Skil and Harris. If we got KCP at $8m/year, then no biggie, except for the playing time for the other players. Basically, I'm saying KCP would be a bust if we pay more than $10m for him.

But if we pay $17m+ for a mediocre KCP AND take away developmental playing time for the others, I just don't understand how it's consistent with the focus on development.

[Roy Tarpley]

I don't see anyone on the Pistons board really clamoring to keep KCP either.

The Pistons fans were saying during the season that Pope was the only dude that gave a damn while the others dogged it. That's all I need to hear.

Being hardworking is fine when you make $3m. You need to show more than just effort for big money.

[MrDollarBills]

I'd rather roll the cap over and just go with Skil, Whitehead, Harris, Goodwin, hell even resign McDaniels.

I'm a STRONG pass on KCP, I just don't see any value relative to just going with the status quo, even we get KCP at some discounted rate. This would be Marks's first bust for me.

He can defend and hit threes. How would that be a bust?

KCP is better than all five of those players....not sure I follow you?

Wait, aren't you president and CEO of DON"T SPEND A DAMN DIME?

He can defend but is not outstanding at it. He can hit threes but is 33% career, which is worse than Skil and Harris. If we got KCP at $8m/year, then no biggie, except for the playing time for the other players. Basically, I'm saying KCP would be a bust if we pay more than $10m for him.

But if we pay $17m+ for a mediocre KCP AND take away developmental playing time for the others, I just don't understand how it's consistent with the focus on development.

I'm the president, but I'm a pragmatist if the Nets are going to spend, i'd rather they do it on a guy that can fit in. KCP has the tools to fit in. He's better than pretty much every other guard outside of Russell/LeVert (who are more skilled than he is). we need two way players.

KCP is 23/24, we'd be developing him too.

[MrDollarBills]

I don't see anyone on the Pistons board really clamoring to keep KCP either.

The Pistons fans were saying during the season that Pope was the only dude that gave a damn while the others dogged it. That's all I need to hear.

Being hardworking is fine when you make $3m. You need to show more than just effort for big money.

you make it seem like this guy is a scrub...I think he'd work out for us especially if its below max. He's a good player, but def needs to improve.

[Lamak]

I like Porter's upside more than KCP

[Roy Tarpley]

Seriously, who are we supposed to sign with these 'pretty' numbers? Porter is one and we won't get him.

KCP can do everything a 3&D wing does. Catch and shoot, defend passing lanes, etc. Is he inefficient? Yes but wasn't that the whole point of hiring Marks and his developmental staff? KCP is 24.

I hated the idea of maxing him. I have no problem signing him outright. We won 20 games and he started on a playoff team and did well. Can we say that about anybody here except Lin?

I'd negotiate anything up to 75-80. Thats my limit.




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Is he really a 3pt shooter if he shoots 33% 3pt career? Hell, Booker shot 34% and 32% 3pt in two years and no one gave him any credit for being a potential 3pt stretch 4.

It's not like we have a hole at SG. Why not focus on PF/SF/C instead? I'm okay with KCP at $10m but unless Marks envisions incredible growth trajectory for KCP, I don't see why you'd spend $17m+ on him.

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[Ror1997]

I don't see anyone on the Pistons board really clamoring to keep KCP either.

They just got Bradley why would they want to overpay to keep OPJ?

During the season, the piston board was full of KCP support. Alot of people said he was the only guy on the team who played like he gave a ****. They were hoping there was a way to keep him without overpaying

There's a difference between supporting a hardworking player who makes 3m/year and signing him for near-max money. I don't see any Piston fan wanting to keep him for 4/80, even before Bradley.

Someone give me a good reason! I feel like I must be missing something. I looked at this college stats at Georgia and they were pretty mediocre too.

What does the amount of money he makes matter to you? Seriously? I'm not trying to be an **** I just don't understand why its so important when as a fan, it should be the last thing I'm worried about.

The only thing that matters is that the Piston fans enjoyed KCP as a player and liked what he brought to the team. That's what they're their to judge. Its not like they enjoyed him as a 10 mpg bench player and we want to start him. We're putting him in the same role, and we can expect the same output and (hopefully) effort.

The reason the piston fans are ok with letting him walk (besides Bradley) is because of his expected salary. And to that i say...

How are we as fans qualified to judge the financial parts of transactions? I just always think it's funny to see people literally judging contracts based on the contract they would've given. Like when did you become a GM?

Im not saying that the salary doesn't matter, or the flexibility doesn't matter. I'm just saying that on this board its factored WAY too much into opinions.

I know the sites called RealGM, but we're not actually RealGMs. They way I see salary and flexibility held in such a high regard I swear some people actually forget that.

We're fans. We should want to see the team improve. We should be happy that our owner didn't get scared by the Billy King disaster and that the money is still flowing.

[moonpie]

How much money could be cleared to offer KCP if Washington doesn't match Porter?

[CalamityX12]

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[CalamityX12]

What does that say about Lin? in the present....

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[Ror1997]

I like Porter's upside more than KCP

I always viewed it as Porter is the better player and better upside, but KCP is a great system fit and can excel/overachieve in the right situation.

[moonpie]

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