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2017 Nets Offseason Thread II 

Post#1881 » by Paradise » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:36 pm

KCP will miss the first 5 games. He will by default not start here but Woj said it's a long term investment.

Nets are likely aiming for a starting five of Russell/KCP/LeVert/Zion/Allen by 2020. KCP will be 28 and entering his prime and a much more experienced part of the culture. It should've been Porter but it didn't work out to our advantage but KCP isn't a scrub. Philly would've jumped on him but we waited it out.


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Post#1882 » by twosevenstreet » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:39 pm

I'm loving the Michael Kay show giving Marks so much credit on the moves he has made
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Post#1883 » by TinmanZBoy » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:39 pm

kastuul wrote:This is so inconsistent.

Kristian Winfield: Woj just said on ESPN The Jump that the Nets are sold on a Jeremy Lin-D’Angelo Russell back court.
7 days ago –

The Brooklyn Nets are planning to be an aggressive pursuer of Caldwell-Pope, angling to pair him in a young backcourt with D’Angelo Russell, league sources told ESPN


the KCP/Russell pairing has more future in it... if the Nets are in developing mode, it makes sense... Lin is the odd man out, but if he performs like there is no tomorrow, he will still be the starting PG ... just look at IT's last couple season in Boston... things could change, ultimately it depends how the player performs
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Post#1884 » by Crunky » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:43 pm

Breeding competition is always good, dont want any player to be complacent.
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Post#1885 » by Born_Ready » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:44 pm

So what happens if Washington doesn't match Otto and KCP is available. Talk about a conundrum.
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Post#1886 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:44 pm

twosevenstreet wrote:I'm loving the Michael Kay show giving Marks so much credit on the moves he has made


Michael Kay has been on the Marks train heavily because the Nets actually run like a professional organization now as opposed to the **** show across town
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Post#1887 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:45 pm

Born_Ready wrote:So what happens if Washington doesn't match Otto and KCP is available. Talk about a conundrum.


sign both :-?
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Post#1888 » by Palmeirense » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:45 pm

IMO this has been a pretty disappointing FA period for us. We couldn't even be players for salary dumps in order to obtain some assets, namely picks.

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Post#1889 » by Palmeirense » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:47 pm

Born_Ready wrote:So what happens if Washington doesn't match Otto and KCP is available. Talk about a conundrum.


Washington has rescinded its rights to Bogie, i'm pretty sure they will match.
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Post#1890 » by Crunky » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:47 pm

Palmeirense wrote:IMO this has been a pretty disappointing FA period for us. We couldn't even be players for salary dumps in order to obtain some assets, namely picks.

Pretty meh.

We got D'lo that's one asset.
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Post#1891 » by kastuul » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:49 pm

TinmanZBoy wrote:
kastuul wrote:This is so inconsistent.

Kristian Winfield: Woj just said on ESPN The Jump that the Nets are sold on a Jeremy Lin-D’Angelo Russell back court.
7 days ago –

The Brooklyn Nets are planning to be an aggressive pursuer of Caldwell-Pope, angling to pair him in a young backcourt with D’Angelo Russell, league sources told ESPN


the KCP/Russell pairing has more future in it... if the Nets are in developing mode, it makes sense... Lin is the odd man out, but if he performs like there is no tomorrow, he will still be the starting PG ... just look at IT's last couple season in Boston... things could change, ultimately it depends how the player performs


If development is more important than winning for the Nets, why the Nets started Randy Foye instead of Whitehead last season?
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Post#1892 » by Palmeirense » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:49 pm

Crunky wrote:
Palmeirense wrote:IMO this has been a pretty disappointing FA period for us. We couldn't even be players for salary dumps in order to obtain some assets, namely picks.

Pretty meh.

We got D'lo that's one asset.


that was prior to the FA period, i'm talking specifically about the FA period.
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Post#1893 » by Hello Brooklyn » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:50 pm

I don't mind signing KCP as long as its a good contract.

We have no talent on this team and we need to start getting guys. There will be virtually no competition for him at this point.

Lets just offer him a 2 or 3 year deal. I would be fine with that.
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Post#1894 » by Born_Ready » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:52 pm

Palmeirense wrote:
Born_Ready wrote:So what happens if Washington doesn't match Otto and KCP is available. Talk about a conundrum.


Washington has rescinded its rights to Bogie, i'm pretty sure they will match.


Ahhh, that I did not know.
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Post#1895 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:53 pm

kastuul wrote:
TinmanZBoy wrote:
kastuul wrote:This is so inconsistent.

Kristian Winfield: Woj just said on ESPN The Jump that the Nets are sold on a Jeremy Lin-D’Angelo Russell back court.
7 days ago –

The Brooklyn Nets are planning to be an aggressive pursuer of Caldwell-Pope, angling to pair him in a young backcourt with D’Angelo Russell, league sources told ESPN


the KCP/Russell pairing has more future in it... if the Nets are in developing mode, it makes sense... Lin is the odd man out, but if he performs like there is no tomorrow, he will still be the starting PG ... just look at IT's last couple season in Boston... things could change, ultimately it depends how the player performs


If development is more important than winning for the Nets, why the Nets started Randy Foye instead of Whitehead last season?


Development doesn't mean that a guy has to start.
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Post#1896 » by Ror1997 » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:54 pm

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And what impact do our conversations about players have on what happens in the NBA? Nothing. They're irrelevant. There is no point in talking players. We do it because we're bored. Whats your point :lol:


Talking about the players is what makes us fans.

We talk about the players because were fans.

We talk about the contracts because were GMs. Oh wait, we're not. So you can't apply that logic. Try again.


I'm not trying to be argumentative but Nets fans on this board have been talking salaries, salary caps, contracts, poison pills, RFA, Natalie Jay, front-loaded payments, etc for a long time. Hell, Prok even has a separate thread on salary caps.

So I'm not sure why you're taking a stand here when I'm basically saying that KCP at $10m is okay but at $17m is not. Hundreds of other people have made similar salary-based arguments for a bunch of UFA and RFA, not sure why you're picking an argument here.


I'm not at all saying salary isn't important. I'm not saying fans shouldn't discuss it.

I'm saying fans shouldnt factor it into their opinion as much as they do.

I can't even tell you how many posts about players there are where the idea is immediately shot down based on salary alone. Usually in the first sentence of the post too. There's all these players we shouldn't sign because of hypothetical future transactions they could mess up.

There's a valid point to be made that trades like DLo for Mosgovs contract don't fall on your lap everyday. There's also a argument to be made that not every GM is Magic Johnson :lol:

Not every salary dump is going to net you DLo. Most salary dumps aren't even going to net you a good prospect. People think that having all this space means we have room to gain all these valuable assets in salary dumps but in reality we wouldnt have anything half as appealing as DLo.

People are more concerned with the finances then how the team will play basketball.
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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread II 

Post#1897 » by Paradise » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:54 pm

kastuul wrote:
TinmanZBoy wrote:
kastuul wrote:This is so inconsistent.

Kristian Winfield: Woj just said on ESPN The Jump that the Nets are sold on a Jeremy Lin-D’Angelo Russell back court.
7 days ago –

The Brooklyn Nets are planning to be an aggressive pursuer of Caldwell-Pope, angling to pair him in a young backcourt with D’Angelo Russell, league sources told ESPN


the KCP/Russell pairing has more future in it... if the Nets are in developing mode, it makes sense... Lin is the odd man out, but if he performs like there is no tomorrow, he will still be the starting PG ... just look at IT's last couple season in Boston... things could change, ultimately it depends how the player performs


If development is more important than winning for the Nets, why the Nets started Randy Foye instead of Whitehead last season?

Because he was never meant to be on the floor. He was expected to be in Long Island and he started for awhile and it hurt his confidence.


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Post#1898 » by Palmeirense » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:54 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:I don't mind signing KCP as long as its a good contract.

We have no talent on this team and we need to start getting guys. There will be virtually no competition for him at this point.

Lets just offer him a 2 or 3 year deal. I would be fine with that.


I don't mind it as well. Just wish we were more aggressive pursuing salary dumps, the market has dried pretty quickly and i doubt major things will happen at this point, wish we could've gotten a pick.
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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread II 

Post#1899 » by TinmanZBoy » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:55 pm

kastuul wrote:
TinmanZBoy wrote:
kastuul wrote:This is so inconsistent.

Kristian Winfield: Woj just said on ESPN The Jump that the Nets are sold on a Jeremy Lin-D’Angelo Russell back court.
7 days ago –

The Brooklyn Nets are planning to be an aggressive pursuer of Caldwell-Pope, angling to pair him in a young backcourt with D’Angelo Russell, league sources told ESPN


the KCP/Russell pairing has more future in it... if the Nets are in developing mode, it makes sense... Lin is the odd man out, but if he performs like there is no tomorrow, he will still be the starting PG ... just look at IT's last couple season in Boston... things could change, ultimately it depends how the player performs


If development is more important than winning for the Nets, why the Nets started Randy Foye instead of Whitehead last season?


I don't know... above just my opinions or guesses, might not be right...
at this point of Lin's career, I am really not worried about if he starts or comes off bench, or even which team he plays for... he has evolved to be an all around good player, the league knows it, he should have his position in this league...
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Re: 2017 Nets Offseason Thread II 

Post#1900 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jul 7, 2017 7:55 pm

All of this Caldwell-Pope talk has me in the mood to take a few shots of Jack Daniels
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