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How much is Hardaway Jr. worth to Atlanta?

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How much is it worth to keep Timothy Hardaway in a Hawks uniform?

Poll ended at Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:05 pm

Keep him at all costs
38
48%
Re-sign him only at a reasonable deal
22
28%
Trade him now
2
3%
I'm willing to let him walk away if it comes to it
18
23%
 
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Re: How much is Hardaway Jr. worth to Atlanta? 

Post#161 » by Geaux_Hawks » Sat Jul 8, 2017 12:07 am

Crunchknicks1 wrote:You guys matching this? What's the word

We liked him at 48 million. 71 million closes the door on matching.
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Post#162 » by Spud2nique » Sat Jul 8, 2017 4:05 pm

Hoopshype is saying we will match THJ by tonight...wtffff??
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Post#163 » by Crunchknicks1 » Sat Jul 8, 2017 4:21 pm

Lol he have to decide not decided lol
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Post#164 » by Spud2nique » Sat Jul 8, 2017 5:06 pm

Ok Woj just said we aren't matching...wheeewwwwww..Ian Begley needs to get his info straight lol..gave me a heart attack on an early Sunday morning..
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How much is Hardaway Jr. worth to Atlanta? 

Post#166 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Jul 8, 2017 6:19 pm

Spud2nique wrote:...gave me a heart attack on an early Sunday morning..



LOL
...it's only Saturday.


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Post#167 » by jayu70 » Sat Jul 8, 2017 6:23 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:...gave me a heart attack on an early Sunday morning..



LOL
...it's only Saturday.


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What is wrongeith you Spud. :lol:
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Post#168 » by Spud2nique » Sat Jul 8, 2017 6:48 pm

jayu70 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:...gave me a heart attack on an early Sunday morning..



LOL
...it's only Saturday.


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What is wrongeith you Spud. :lol:


Lmao..oh my...I have no clue..it's not the first time somebody has asked me this question..this time I blame Ian Begley lol
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Post#169 » by Spud2nique » Sat Jul 8, 2017 6:49 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:...gave me a heart attack on an early Sunday morning..



LOL
...it's only Saturday.


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LOL...reminded me of this movie dirty work from 98 when Farley says HELL YA G SEVOOOOOOONN...and the bartender is like..u pressed G8...(IF U LIKE PINA COLADAS..)
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Post#170 » by ATL Boy » Sat Jul 8, 2017 6:54 pm

So how many of us think that Bud/Wilcox would've matched that deal? Lol


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Post#171 » by Geaux_Hawks » Sat Jul 8, 2017 6:57 pm

ATL Boy wrote:So how many of us think that Bud/Wilcox would've matched that deal? Lol


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Hard to say imo. Really depends on if they would have kept last year's team around(Dwight and Sap).
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Post#173 » by yanksknicks101 » Sat Jul 8, 2017 8:16 pm

Hawks should have saved that knicks from the knicks :'(
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Post#174 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Jul 8, 2017 8:52 pm

ATL Boy wrote:So how many of us think that Bud/Wilcox would've matched that deal? Lol


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I suspect BudCox would have already extended an offer to him long before the 6th of July.

I could see them bidding against themselves and offering 4 years / $60 million on the first day of Free Agency. Similar to what they gave Dennis.


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Post#175 » by ATL Boy » Sat Jul 8, 2017 8:58 pm

I don't think they would've let Tim go no matter what the price. Not after trading a first rounder for him.

In hindsight that trade was yet another failure. THJ had his moments but we basically traded a cost-controlled rookie for 1.5 years of him (and only a few months of actual production).


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Post#176 » by DirtybirdGA » Sat Jul 8, 2017 9:32 pm

I've seen thank you posts for Tim, is Hawks social media waiting for the tenth to do one for Millsap?
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Post#177 » by Geaux_Hawks » Sat Jul 8, 2017 9:37 pm

ATL Boy wrote:I don't think they would've let Tim go no matter what the price. Not after trading a first rounder for him.

In hindsight that trade was yet another failure. THJ had his moments but we basically traded a cost-controlled rookie for 1.5 years of him (and only a few months of actual production).


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My thing is if Bazemore wasn't here with his contract, we might have inched up a few more on matching offers, but I also doubt they would have still tried matching the Knicks offer sheet. See Bazemore really throws things out of whack because If they really wanted to keep THj around, they would have at least extended him when they did Schro and been confident he would have became worth the extension during the season. Their mistake was giving Bazemore 15 million instead of waiting on THj.

Which is why I also don't see it as a failure either. I mean as much as I wouldn't have wanted the Hawks to match the Knicks offer, I think THj will actually play up to that contract. He was coming around last year after the AS break, and I'm sure other teams were going to offer him something lesser than the Knicks after the big names made their moves. Something tells me they really wanted to keep THj, but not at the price the Knicks wanted to acquire him.
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Post#178 » by ATL Boy » Sat Jul 8, 2017 9:55 pm

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ATL Boy wrote:I don't think they would've let Tim go no matter what the price. Not after trading a first rounder for him.

In hindsight that trade was yet another failure. THJ had his moments but we basically traded a cost-controlled rookie for 1.5 years of him (and only a few months of actual production).


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My thing is if Bazemore wasn't here with his contract, we might have inched up a few more on matching offers, but I also doubt they would have still tried matching the Knicks offer sheet. See Bazemore really throws things out of whack because If they really wanted to keep THj around, they would have at least extended him when they did Schro and been confident he would have became worth the extension during the season. Their mistake was giving Bazemore 15 million instead of waiting on THj.

Which is why I also don't see it as a failure either. I mean as much as I wouldn't have wanted the Hawks to match the Knicks offer, I think THj will actually play up to that contract. He was coming around last year after the AS break, and I'm sure other teams were going to offer him something lesser than the Knicks after the big names made their moves. Something tells me they really wanted to keep THj, but not at the price the Knicks wanted to acquire him.

I get how the Bazemore contract handicaps us but this is a new regime with Travis Schlenk. Even if we could've found a team to straight up dump Bazemore's salary on I still don't think Schlenk matches this deal.

In terms of Hardaway playing up to this contract, I doubt that, but there's no way of saying he will/won't for sure at this moment. Even if he does play up to that contract, though, he won't be playing up to it for us. No matter what happens with him from here on out with the Knicks, I think we failed at that trade.


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Post#179 » by Geaux_Hawks » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:33 pm

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ATL Boy wrote:I don't think they would've let Tim go no matter what the price. Not after trading a first rounder for him.

In hindsight that trade was yet another failure. THJ had his moments but we basically traded a cost-controlled rookie for 1.5 years of him (and only a few months of actual production).


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My thing is if Bazemore wasn't here with his contract, we might have inched up a few more on matching offers, but I also doubt they would have still tried matching the Knicks offer sheet. See Bazemore really throws things out of whack because If they really wanted to keep THj around, they would have at least extended him when they did Schro and been confident he would have became worth the extension during the season. Their mistake was giving Bazemore 15 million instead of waiting on THj.

Which is why I also don't see it as a failure either. I mean as much as I wouldn't have wanted the Hawks to match the Knicks offer, I think THj will actually play up to that contract. He was coming around last year after the AS break, and I'm sure other teams were going to offer him something lesser than the Knicks after the big names made their moves. Something tells me they really wanted to keep THj, but not at the price the Knicks wanted to acquire him.

I get how the Bazemore contract handicaps us but this is a new regime with Travis Schlenk. Even if we could've found a team to straight up dump Bazemore's salary on I still don't think Schlenk matches this deal.

In terms of Hardaway playing up to this contract, I doubt that, but there's no way of saying he will/won't for sure at this moment. Even if he does play up to that contract, though, he won't be playing up to it for us. No matter what happens with him from here on out with the Knicks, I think we failed at that trade.


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I was just answering it from Budcox point of view. Yeah, Schlenk obviously wouldn't match since he didn't do it now.

As far as it being a failure, then yeah, in a vacuum the trade was a failure since we have nothing to show for it now.
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Post#180 » by ChuckChilly » Sun Jul 9, 2017 6:24 am

Crazy that this guy is going to make much more money in his NBA career than his pops.

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