Melo Trade Thread #? - We all know nothing (Upd PG 64 - Deal Happening Tonight/Tomorrow?)

[AmazingJason]

I hope if it is Houston that we get the rights to Hartenstein or Qui in the deal. Give me both, Anderson, Long and 2020 1st and I will take it at this point. Anderson is on an awful deal but with this run and gun team we are putting together he can fit and only has 2 seasons left. Harteinstein and Qui are both young, high upside, stashable talent and we get a decent pick if this all falls apart for Houston.

Anderson's deal runs for another 3 years including this season. Melo's deal ends a year early and likely two years, as I think he will opt out to cash in on one big last contract. I'm not sure where we'd have minutes for Anderson if we were to trade for him, either, unless someone gets hurt.

Qi's upside is limited severely, IMO, by his frame. Hartenstein I'm interested in, but I'm still not touching that deal because of Anderson's horrible contract.

Not a big fan of Anderson, but don't we actually have room for a PF? Other than KP who's going to get his fair share of minutes at C, we don't really have a true PF.

[K_ick_God]

If Timmy is worth $18 million then Harden is worth at least $16 million.

[HarthorneWingo]

rockets aren't trading ariza who helped recruit paul.

Paul and Melo are best friends.

as are ariza and paul, which is why paul went to houston to play with his good friend trevor ariza.

Ok, well is Melo better than Ariza?

[Polk377]

I hope if it is Houston that we get the rights to Hartenstein or Qui in the deal. Give me both, Anderson, Long and 2020 1st and I will take it at this point. Anderson is on an awful deal but with this run and gun team we are putting together he can fit and only has 2 seasons left. Harteinstein and Qui are both young, high upside, stashable talent and we get a decent pick if this all falls apart for Houston.

Anderson's deal runs for another 3 years including this season. Melo's deal ends a year early and likely two years, as I think he will opt out to cash in on one big last contract. I'm not sure where we'd have minutes for Anderson if we were to trade for him, either, unless someone gets hurt.

Qi's upside is limited severely, IMO, by his frame. Hartenstein I'm interested in, but I'm still not touching that deal because of Anderson's horrible contract.

Just checked on the trade checker and even with Anderson in the deal Houston would have to give up Gordon or Ariza to make the money work also. I'm not a huge fan of dealing with Houston but they seem like the only game in town right now. Still hoping for a 3rd team to get involved.

[NBA Fan 1234]

I hope if it is Houston that we get the rights to Hartenstein or Qui in the deal. Give me both, Anderson, Long and 2020 1st and I will take it at this point. Anderson is on an awful deal but with this run and gun team we are putting together he can fit and only has 2 seasons left. Harteinstein and Qui are both young, high upside, stashable talent and we get a decent pick if this all falls apart for Houston.

Anderson's deal runs for another 3 years including this season. Melo's deal ends a year early and likely two years, as I think he will opt out to cash in on one big last contract. I'm not sure where we'd have minutes for Anderson if we were to trade for him, either, unless someone gets hurt.

Qi's upside is limited severely, IMO, by his frame. Hartenstein I'm interested in, but I'm still not touching that deal because of Anderson's horrible contract.

I think that Anderson ends up in Portland in the deal. He fits much better with them.

Yeah, this is what I'm thinking.

I posted this yesterday:
NY receives: Leonard (or Davis or Aminu), Harkless, Hartenstein (works without him if Houston wants to keep him), and one (two if no Hartenstein) of Houston's NGC's (Long, Taylor, etc)
Houston receives: Melo
Portland receives: Anderson + first round pick from Houston.

Something along those lines I can see happening.

[reub]

Paul and Melo are best friends.

as are ariza and paul, which is why paul went to houston to play with his good friend trevor ariza.

Ok, well is Melo better than Ariza?

It depends who you ask.

[Jay10]

Honestly, we can look at it this way - We have four starters that we actually drafted!!

G- Frank
SG - Tim
PF - KP
C - Willy

The only thing missing is a SF. We have a star player at SF in Anthony who wants or wanted to be here. Do we remember how long it took to get a top 15 player to play here. In fact not counting Stoudemire who was past his prime when he was here when was the last time we had a big time free agent come here willingly?

I think unless we qet another SF who is young and a fit with our current roster in a trade for Melo then let's ride with him. If they all fit, great we make the playoffs. If we don't do well we'll look to draft a SF. But boughing at the playoffs just because we can't beat golden state or the cavs is sideways thinking. Every other team in the league is in that same boat. I think this might be the year to go for it when everyone else is tanking. Never know what could happen.

If Portland is involved, Harkless might end up being the Small Forward.

[NBA Fan 1234]

I hope if it is Houston that we get the rights to Hartenstein or Qui in the deal. Give me both, Anderson, Long and 2020 1st and I will take it at this point. Anderson is on an awful deal but with this run and gun team we are putting together he can fit and only has 2 seasons left. Harteinstein and Qui are both young, high upside, stashable talent and we get a decent pick if this all falls apart for Houston.

Anderson's deal runs for another 3 years including this season. Melo's deal ends a year early and likely two years, as I think he will opt out to cash in on one big last contract. I'm not sure where we'd have minutes for Anderson if we were to trade for him, either, unless someone gets hurt.

Qi's upside is limited severely, IMO, by his frame. Hartenstein I'm interested in, but I'm still not touching that deal because of Anderson's horrible contract.

Not a big fan of Anderson, but don't we actually have room for a PF? Other than KP who's going to get his fair share of minutes at C, we don't really have a true PF.

KOQ, Kuz, KP, and Lance will likely all see minutes at the 4 next season.

[reub]

Anderson's deal runs for another 3 years including this season. Melo's deal ends a year early and likely two years, as I think he will opt out to cash in on one big last contract. I'm not sure where we'd have minutes for Anderson if we were to trade for him, either, unless someone gets hurt.

Qi's upside is limited severely, IMO, by his frame. Hartenstein I'm interested in, but I'm still not touching that deal because of Anderson's horrible contract.

I think that Anderson ends up in Portland in the deal. He fits much better with them.

Yeah, this is what I'm thinking.

I posted this yesterday:
NY receives: Leonard (or Davis or Aminu), Harkless, Hartenstein (works without him if Houston wants to keep him), and one (two if no Hartenstein) of Houston's NGC's (Long, Taylor, etc)
Houston receives: Melo
Portland receives: Anderson + first round pick from Houston.

Something along those lines I can see happening.

They also have the rights to Xi and to Sergio Llull, who is 29.

[HarthorneWingo]

as are ariza and paul, which is why paul went to houston to play with his good friend trevor ariza.

Ok, well is Melo better than Ariza?

It depends who you ask.

I know. I'm trying to back bNo into a corner.


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[Marty McFly]

If Timmy is worth $18 million then Harden is worth at least $16 million.

if timmy's millions is in Zimbabwe dollars and harden in euros, i agree.

[Polk377]

Anderson's deal runs for another 3 years including this season. Melo's deal ends a year early and likely two years, as I think he will opt out to cash in on one big last contract. I'm not sure where we'd have minutes for Anderson if we were to trade for him, either, unless someone gets hurt.

Qi's upside is limited severely, IMO, by his frame. Hartenstein I'm interested in, but I'm still not touching that deal because of Anderson's horrible contract.

I think that Anderson ends up in Portland in the deal. He fits much better with them.

Yeah, this is what I'm thinking.

I posted this yesterday:
NY receives: Leonard (or Davis or Aminu), Harkless, Hartenstein (works without him if Houston wants to keep him), and one (two if no Hartenstein) of Houston's NGC's (Long, Taylor, etc)
Houston receives: Melo
Portland receives: Anderson + first round pick from Houston.

Something along those lines I can see happening.

That creates a young team with depth I can roll with.

[AmazingJason]

Would be insane if we got the Chinese Porzingis:

Watch on YouTube

Looks more aggressive than KP in his 1st year

[Jay10]

It looks like we forgot about Portland being in cap hell. They will definitely try to include Evan Turner if they are the third team.

[CANiLIVE]

Mike wise says "Holy monster deal. Rockets nearing Melo deal. Daryl Morey just trumped Sam Presti for the role of America's Most Daring GM."

Nearing deal?

[El Poochio]

Thats like a Dream Team squad lol they better pay up

[magnumt]

It looks like we forgot about Portland being in cap hell. They will definitely try to include Evan Turner if they are the third team.

Then I'd want a LT and KOQ swap for Zach Collins.

--Mags

[frothbrain]

if portland doesnt want anderson, rockets could do the trade on aug 28 with their non-guaranteed contracts and eric gordon.

[NBA Fan 1234]

I think that Anderson ends up in Portland in the deal. He fits much better with them.

Yeah, this is what I'm thinking.

I posted this yesterday:
NY receives: Leonard (or Davis or Aminu), Harkless, Hartenstein (works without him if Houston wants to keep him), and one (two if no Hartenstein) of Houston's NGC's (Long, Taylor, etc)
Houston receives: Melo
Portland receives: Anderson + first round pick from Houston.

Something along those lines I can see happening.

They also have the rights to Xi and to Sergio Llull, who is 29.

You mean Qi? He signed a multi-year deal already. Llul was offered a 20+ million dollar deal (I think?). Llul could be a decent stop-gap PG until Frank can take over, but people will have their issues with him...trust me. As for Qi, he doesn't move the needle for me. His frame scares me. Maybe he'll turn out to be a good role player at best? I'm not sure about anything more than that, though.

[Rocket_Raccoon]

So, my friend proposed an interesting trade:

Knicks receive:
Evan Turner
Moe Harkless
(whatever unguaranteed deal(s) from HOU to make salaries match)

Portland receives:
Ryan Anderson
Courtney Lee

Houston Receives:
Carmelo Anthony

This is of course, without any picks thrown in there (yet). How do you feel about that framework?

If POR is able to swap Turner with Lee, that should remove them from receiving any additional assets HOU might have been seeking in order to facilitate a trade with them. If anything I'd like the 2019 2nd they own (the better of the MIN/LAL 2nd rounder) and I consider their part of the deal finished.

Now, this is where things get interesting. I expect a minimum of 2 1st rounders from trading Melo and Lee AND taking on Turner. HOU still gets those "additional assets" and trades them to us. I expect it to be them trading their unguaranteed contracts for a salary dump and a pick. My question is, they still have the cap holds for Bobby Brown and Troy Williams. Can they sign and trade one of them to a one year deal or something for like 6-8 million in combination with their unguaranteed contracts for a salary dump?

In the end we would end up getting:

Moe Harkless
LAL 2019 2nd
HOU 2020 1st

And another 1st rounder somehow. I'd say we should get the 2018 2nd HOU owns (worst of CHA/MEM/MIA) and the rights to Hartenstein as well.