Melo Trade Thread #? - We all know nothing (Upd PG 64 - Deal Happening Tonight/Tomorrow?)

Bill Pidto · Post #301 » by **Bill Pidto** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:45 pm

Some Knicks fan: Willy is too slow. Maybe we should deal him to the Rockets with Melo..

Jimmit79 · Post #302 » by **Jimmit79** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:45 pm

You guys should be prepared the return won't be that great.

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Wolfgang630 · Post #303 » by **Wolfgang630** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:45 pm

Nothing's going to happen today *sighs*

AllanHoustonFan · Post #304 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:45 pm

AmazingJason wrote:CP3
Harden
Ariza
Melo
Capela

Gordon
Dekker
Nene

Dekker is a Clipper now

VirginiaKnickFan · Post #305 » by **VirginiaKnickFan** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:45 pm

poeman wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Probably not going to end well...Ewing/Chandler trade all over again.

Ewing was a expiring...I agree we cannot take extended contract for a player option Melo at the end of the season but still if we can get picks then its better then what we got for Ewing.

Knicks trade franchise center Patrick Ewing, acquiring Glen Rice, Luc Longley, and Travis Knight. They added $90 million in payroll through 2004

Please, I just ate.

Jimmit79 · Post #306 » by **Jimmit79** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:46 pm

Bill Pidto wrote:Some Knicks fan: Willy is too slow. Maybe we should deal him to the Rockets with Melo..

Nah that's a CAA guy.

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3toheadmelo · Post #307 » by **3toheadmelo** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:46 pm

AmazingJason wrote:CP3
Harden
Ariza
Melo
Capela

Gordon
Dekker
Nene

expect a couple vets to join them on discounts as well

gonna be a fun team

VirginiaKnickFan · Post #308 » by **VirginiaKnickFan** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:46 pm

Jimmit79 wrote:You guys should be prepared the return won't be that great.

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Ya think.

AmazingJason · Post #309 » by **AmazingJason** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:46 pm

AllanHoustonFan wrote:
AmazingJason wrote:CP3
Harden
Ariza
Melo
Capela

Gordon
Dekker
Nene

Dekker is a Clipper now

F*ckin Google.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #310 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:48 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
AmazingJason wrote:CP3
Harden
Ariza
Melo
Capela

Gordon
Dekker
Nene

expect a couple vets to join them on discounts as well

gonna be a fun team

You think it'll be fun? I think it'll be a trainwreck to watch. They'll win, of course, but it'd be more because they're just more talented than opposing teams. Harden isolates and pounds the **** out of the ball, CP3 kills time like no other as well, and Melo is going to want his isolations. It can work, but I think it'll end up being a "you go, he goes, I go" situation like it was in Miami with LeBron in the first year...only without the talent/defense.

On top of that, the amount of flops Paul and Harden have each game is going to be nauseating. ON THE FLIP SIDE, it's going to be funny watching Paul's reactions when Harden's guy scores on him...again...and again...and again...and again.

JM88 · Post #311 » by **JM88** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:48 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
JM88 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Yeah, this is what I'm thinking.

I posted this yesterday:
NY receives: Leonard (or Davis or Aminu), Harkless, Hartenstein (works without him if Houston wants to keep him), and one (two if no Hartenstein) of Houston's NGC's (Long, Taylor, etc)
Houston receives: Melo
Portland receives: Anderson + first round pick from Houston.

Something along those lines I can see happening.

I was thinking somewhat the same, but with all of the unguaranteed contracts going to Portland.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y76uflgx
Both Houston and NYK could throw in a second rounder or two to sweaten the pot fo r Portland as well.

According to the rumors leading up to the draft, Portland was desperate to trade the players because they don't wanna pay this much in the luxury tax. In both yours and mine proposal, Portland trades away players that are no more than rotational pieces for them, while adding Anderson who would likely be more valuable on the court to them than any of the players they trade away. And then there is the unguaranteed contracts, which simply saves them 5,2 million in salary this year. I believe that means a lot to Portland right now,

For Houston, this trade is huge win. They get rid of Anderson and gets Melo without trading away significant players right now.

For the Knicks, we only add young players. Harkless and Aminu are not great deals, but they are not terrible either. I'd pick Aminu over Lance every day for instance. It also pretty much fills out the bench with young players who should be eager to prove their worth. Including Hartenstein who may actually be the most valuable asset of any player in this trade. The trade also works without adding Vonleh or Napier, if Portland values them more highly than i think they do.

I like this trade a lot for all three teams and Melo, who goes to a very good team without them giving up too good a player in the short term.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y89a3jjr

This works also - I think they would rather keep Vonleh than trade him because he's still super young with lots of potential and was a legitimate rotation big last year.

I wonder if they'd be interested in parting with pick(s) if we include Lee for Turner.

In the end, i would accept that deal too, although i do believe it should be within the realm of possibility to get Vonleh and/or Hartenstein added. I do agree with you about Vonleh, but i added him because he could have trouble getting significant minutes with Collins, Swanigan,, Nurkic, and Anderson all on the team. Anderson is a much better player than Vonleh right now, and i think the three others are considered their primary investments of the frontcourt. Oh, and they do have even more depth with Ezeli and Leonard as well, though they should clearly be behind Vonleh on the depth chart. I would at least ask for him.

I think they would be willing to give us a first rounder if we traded them Lee for Turner. Not sure i think it is a good idea to take on that contract for a late first rounder. We don't really need Lee, but he should be tradeable for a while and i do think he has very good value to the development of our young players.

camillepd · Post #312 » by **camillepd** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:51 pm

Melo is not going to Houston at the end of the day, Melo is getting traded to the Cavs for Love.

nykinoz · Post #313 » by **nykinoz** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:51 pm

Realistically, which teams can use Ryan Anderson and fit him in???

Polk377 · Post #314 » by **Polk377** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:52 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
AmazingJason wrote:CP3
Harden
Ariza
Melo
Capela

Gordon
Dekker
Nene

expect a couple vets to join them on discounts as well

gonna be a fun team

If this is with Knicks taking back Anderson than Houston would still have to add Gordon or Ariza to make the money work.

VirginiaKnickFan · Post #315 » by **VirginiaKnickFan** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:53 pm

camillepd wrote:Melo is not going to Houston at the end of the day, Melo is getting traded to the Cavs for Love.

Doubt it. If he goes to Cavs they aren't giving up Love.

3toheadmelo · Post #316 » by **3toheadmelo** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:54 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
AmazingJason wrote:CP3
Harden
Ariza
Melo
Capela

Gordon
Dekker
Nene

expect a couple vets to join them on discounts as well

gonna be a fun team

You think it'll be fun? I think it'll be a trainwreck to watch. They'll win, of course, but it'd be more because they're just more talented than opposing teams. Harden isolates and pounds the **** out of the ball, CP3 kills time like no other as well, and Melo is going to want his isolations. It can work, but I think it'll end up being a "you go, he goes, I go" situation like it was in Miami with LeBron in the first year...only without the talent/defense.

On top of that, the amount of flops Paul and Harden have each game is going to be nauseating. ON THE FLIP SIDE, it's going to be funny watching Paul's reactions when Harden's guy scores on him...again...and again...and again...and again.

yeah it could be like that for sure. that's why i feel like cleveland was the best fit for him. but i think this is gonna be fun. cp3 + melo is a dream come true. of course harden is going to hinder that a bit with his on ball mentality but i feel like they're gonna make this work.

defense wise it's probably gonna suck but its gonna be fun seeing golden state and houston go at it lol

battabing10 · Post #317 » by **battabing10** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:54 pm

drekwins wrote:
battabing10 wrote:
VirginiaKnickFan wrote:
All this leverage? Not even close. Denver played the Knicks (Dolan's) lust for Melo. What Houston and Morey would give up wouldn't be near as much.

Melo clearly wanted to come to the Knicks. It was an open secret. So the Knicks had all the leverage.

The Rockets clearly want Melo and Melo is willing to do away with his NTC to make it happen.

The Knicks have all the leverage.

Also, not true. Melo wanted to come to New York. He was also bein courted by Brooklyn. If he were a free agent, the Knicks would have had leverage. Instead, Melo was open to Brooklyn and the Knocks felt pressure to get a deal done by the deadline in order to get him. Otherwise, they would have waited. This gave up all of their leverage.

Please. He would be a one-year rental in Brooklyn. One-year rentals happen.

nykinoz · Post #318 » by **nykinoz** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:55 pm

Utah has a glaring need for Ryan Anderson with Hayward gone, he would fit beautifully there

VirginiaKnickFan · Post #319 » by **VirginiaKnickFan** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:56 pm

nykinoz wrote:Utah has a glaring need for Ryan Anderson with Hayward gone, he would fit beautifully there

With Rubio to dish him the ball on fast breaks.

JM88 · Post #320 » by **JM88** » Sat Jul 8, 2017 10:57 pm

Polk377 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
AmazingJason wrote:CP3
Harden
Ariza
Melo
Capela

Gordon
Dekker
Nene

expect a couple vets to join them on discounts as well

gonna be a fun team

If this is with Knicks taking back Anderson than Houston would still have to add Gordon or Ariza to make the money work.

That is only necessary if Melo does not waive his trade kicker, which i think he would be willing to do in order to keep Gordon and Ariza around. If that is the case, the unguaranteed contracts would be enough to balance the salaries.