JM88 wrote:Knickstape1214 wrote:JM88 wrote:
I was thinking somewhat the same, but with all of the unguaranteed contracts going to Portland.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y76uflgx
Both Houston and NYK could throw in a second rounder or two to sweaten the pot fo r Portland as well.
According to the rumors leading up to the draft, Portland was desperate to trade the players because they don't wanna pay this much in the luxury tax. In both yours and mine proposal, Portland trades away players that are no more than rotational pieces for them, while adding Anderson who would likely be more valuable on the court to them than any of the players they trade away. And then there is the unguaranteed contracts, which simply saves them 5,2 million in salary this year. I believe that means a lot to Portland right now,
For Houston, this trade is huge win. They get rid of Anderson and gets Melo without trading away significant players right now.
For the Knicks, we only add young players. Harkless and Aminu are not great deals, but they are not terrible either. I'd pick Aminu over Lance every day for instance. It also pretty much fills out the bench with young players who should be eager to prove their worth. Including Hartenstein who may actually be the most valuable asset of any player in this trade. The trade also works without adding Vonleh or Napier, if Portland values them more highly than i think they do.
I like this trade a lot for all three teams and Melo, who goes to a very good team without them giving up too good a player in the short term.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y89a3jjr
This works also - I think they would rather keep Vonleh than trade him because he's still super young with lots of potential and was a legitimate rotation big last year.
I wonder if they'd be interested in parting with pick(s) if we include Lee for Turner.
In the end, i would accept that deal too, although i do believe it should be within the realm of possibility to get Vonleh and/or Hartenstein added. I do agree with you about Vonleh, but i added him because he could have trouble getting significant minutes with Collins, Swanigan,, Nurkic, and Anderson all on the team. Anderson is a much better player than Vonleh right now, and i think the three others are considered their primary investments of the frontcourt. Oh, and they do have even more depth with Ezeli and Leonard as well, though they should clearly be behind Vonleh on the depth chart. I would at least ask for him.
I think they would be willing to give us a first rounder if we traded them Lee for Turner. Not sure i think it is a good idea to take on that contract for a late first rounder. We don't really need Lee, but he should be tradeable for a while and i do think he has very good value to the development of our young players.
Oh, I'd ask for both guys absolutely...but I think it might be hard pressed to end up with them. You're right about the depth Portland has (although I think they cut Fes before his contract became guaranteed), but he's the only guy who is a good defender / can be besides Collins. Nurk is a beast in the post, but he's not the most fleet of foot guarding in space; Leonard, lol; Swanigan is more athletic than he appears, but I don't think he'll end up as good a defender on the perimeter as someone like Vonleh is (I LOVE Swanigan, though - I wanted us to try and find a way to get him with a KOQ trade for a late first); Collins, I love, and has amazing footwork...but he's more of a 5 than a 4. Anderson doesn't bother with defense, either. Then there are injury concerns for Nurk and Anderson.
Can it be done? Absolutely. Will it? I think the odds are slightly against it.http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y95k9sl3
Add in Hartenstein from Houston and 1-2 first round picks (maybe 1 from each team)? WAY too many moving parts for it to happen, but it's an interesting thought - I think I'd need the picks to do it, to be honest.
