Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017

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Who will dominate?

Markelle Fultz
61
12%
Lonzo Ball
60
12%
Jayson Tatum
131
26%
Josh Jackson
24
5%
De'Aaron Fox
52
10%
Lauri Markkanen
17
3%
Dennis Smith JR
53
10%
Zach Collins
9
2%
Donovan Mitchell
52
10%
Other Players
51
10%
 
Total votes: 510

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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#1001 » by JellosJigglin » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:10 am

akhan786 wrote:
prime1time wrote:
akhan786 wrote:I really liked what I saw from both rooks.

On Ball:
He is is going to be a great player but not in a way everyone was probably thinking he was going to be. He like ALL rookies will need around 2 years before they are truly effective in the League. I think the hype made it seem like he was going to dominant from day 1, but that's unrealistic. He's a poor shooter and hella skinny. I don't see why he can't improve those by year 3, and bring a really fun brand of basketball back to LA.

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The prettiest wing scorer I've seen in SL since Melo. *Insert obvious caveat that it's only SL doe*. At the very least his technique leaves you speechless with both his moves and footwork. Similar to Ball, I don't think we'll see where his trajectory is truly going to go until Year 3, but right now I think Brad Stevens is excited to develop a talent like him. He has all the moves, but with age I think he will be more efficient in converting them. He had both good and bad plays on defense, but his rebounding has been a surprise so hopefully he can get significant PT.

KD?


KD's game is pretty in a different way. I'd describe KD's game as effortless while Tatum has an advanced arsenal of moves.


I see a little bit of Kobe in Tatum's footwork. Especially that turnaround J.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#1002 » by bennjuiced34 » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:10 am

One thing Fox has on Wall is defense. Fox is gonna be a problem for offensive players. What'd he have, like 4 steals last night? I think Fox is more of a combo guard anyway.

The open court is the only area I see both Wall and Fox similar. Just from sheer speed and ability to finish at the rim.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#1003 » by CoreyGallagher » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:11 am

Fultz has to have the least amount of minutes played by a lottery pick, I have no idea what we're doing with him. He's been in and out this entire first half, 6 minutes played in 18 minutes.
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Re: Lonzo Ball Puts up 11 Pts, 11 Rebs, and 11 Ast in Second Summer League Game 

Post#1004 » by ISayshowmee » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:11 am

Kazoom, that triple double oh so so quietly done........
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#1005 » by Patsfan1081 » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:11 am

XXBKXX wrote:Jaylen brown being showed up by the rook.. I don't think there's room for both of them.. wouldn't surprise me if they traded him.. you would expect jaylen to be dominating SL like Ingram did.. He's all athleticism with marginal skill at best...

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Like Ingram did? Everyone was saying Brown is too good for the summer league after the first game, now after tonight he's an athlete with mariginal skill. Typical real GM hyperbole :roll: He had the second best ts% in his draft class(non centers), played good defense his rookie season, and was forced into guarding Lebron in the conferance finals as a rookie. As a "project" who's biggest issue coming in was his outside shot he shot 45/34 as a rookie compared to Ingram's 40/29. Playing great or playing horrible, forming a opinion off a summer league game doesn't make a lick of sense.
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Re: Lonzo Ball Puts up 11 Pts, 11 Rebs, and 11 Ast in Second Summer League Game 

Post#1006 » by Wonderllama » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:12 am

Looks like Lonzo is not a bust anymore. People were outright stupid to call him that after ONE summer league game.
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Re: Lonzo Ball Puts up 11 Pts, 11 Rebs, and 11 Ast in Second Summer League Game 

Post#1007 » by Don Ford » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:13 am

Boneman2 wrote:
KobeBryant24 wrote:Jaylen and Tatum vs Lonzo .... lucky BI didnt play :)


Kuzma overlooked here


Absolutely, Kuzma had 31 pts with 9 rebs and all of the talk was about Tatum and Lonzo. It is still summer league but he's looking like a good draft pick by the Lakers, especially at #27
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Post#1008 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:15 am

Good response. That's how it's done. Too many haters
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#1009 » by FinNasty » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:15 am

Damn Bam... so you're for real? Post up hook shots, drives to the hole, coast to coast plays?

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Post#1010 » by PierceFan4ever » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:16 am

CoreyGallagher wrote:Fultz has to have the least amount of minutes played by a lottery pick, I have no idea what we're doing with him. He's been in and out this entire first half 6 minutes played in 18 minutes.


Lol if I was the Sixers I don't blame then considering what has happened in the past. I think it's fine, we all want to see these top rookies play but better to be safe I guess in limiting his minutes somewhat.
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Re: Lonzo Ball Puts up 11 Pts, 11 Rebs, and 11 Ast in Second Summer League Game 

Post#1011 » by SamSepiol » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:16 am

Lana Del Rey wrote:His shot is still a mess. I expect there to be some major improvements by the beginning of the regular season. Some of his misses were horrible.

Lonzo's performance showed good BBIQ. Smart player and he has the tools to improve.


Yeah you can really feel his feel for the game. Such a natural player on the court, but his shot isn't pretty. And he doesn't have the quickest first step. So we'll see how those two affect his game. You don't need a shot or a quick first step to be a successful point in this league, but he better to be as good as the hype.
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Re: Lonzo Ball Puts up 11 Pts, 11 Rebs, and 11 Ast in Second Summer League Game 

Post#1012 » by InsanityKills » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:16 am

"It's one game"

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#LonzoBust

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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#1013 » by FlatearthZorro » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:16 am

XXBKXX wrote:Jaylen brown being showed up by the rook.. I don't think there's room for both of them.. wouldn't surprise me if they traded him.. you would expect jaylen to be dominating SL like Ingram did.. He's all athleticism with marginal skill at best...

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Brown looks out of control. He's trying to do too MUCH. Ingram dominated 1 GAME Brown had 29/12 on ~60% from the field in his 1st SL game this year and a better rookie campaign. Anyhow Brown need to relax and play to his strengths.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#1014 » by Patsfan1081 » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:16 am

Sign5 wrote:Tatum will be an all-star but Jaylen still looks like a bust to me.


Still? So he looked like a bust last season?
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Re: Lonzo Ball Puts up 11 Pts, 11 Rebs, and 11 Ast in Second Summer League Game 

Post#1015 » by King4Day » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:17 am

So glad he didn't end up in phoenix. This back and forth of if he's good or not is already growing old.
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Re: Lonzo Ball Puts up 11 Pts, 11 Rebs, and 11 Ast in Second Summer League Game 

Post#1016 » by City of Trees » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:17 am

Yesterday's overreaction was ridiculous.

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Re: Lonzo Ball Puts up 11 Pts, 11 Rebs, and 11 Ast in Second Summer League Game 

Post#1017 » by Ben-N1ce » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:17 am

tundraknight wrote:The next Jason Kidd CONFIRMED.


Better defender too.
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Re: Lonzo Ball Puts up 11 Pts, 11 Rebs, and 11 Ast in Second Summer League Game 

Post#1018 » by chitownsports4ever » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:17 am

To me Ball looks as though he shouldve stayed one more year at UCLA to refine his scoring and defensive game . I think it wouldve served him to pay his sophomore year as the primary scoring threat and to get after it on defense.
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Re: Lonzo Ball Puts up 11 Pts, 11 Rebs, and 11 Ast in Second Summer League Game 

Post#1019 » by KrazySixersD » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:18 am

he still showed 0 ability to beat his man off the dribble, and has again shown he is not a good shooter.. when teams play his weaknesses in the regular season, he's going to be in trouble.. sure the assists will be there as he is going to do nothing but pass, and his rebounding has been well, but his defense is atrocious and he has 0 ability to beat someone off the dribble in the half court

34 min for a weak triple double in summer league while still showing weak in the biggest areas... ya.. hasnt put anything to bed
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Re: Lonzo Ball Puts up 11 Pts, 11 Rebs, and 11 Ast in Second Summer League Game 

Post#1020 » by cellar-door » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:20 am

He scored 11 points on 13 shots, 38.5% from the floor and couldn't defend. Everyone knew his passing was legit, his rebounding was a nice add in this game. Overall though, he still looks deeply flawed on both ends, the MCW/Rondo triple double doesn't change that much.

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