Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017

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Who will dominate?

Markelle Fultz
61
12%
Lonzo Ball
60
12%
Jayson Tatum
131
26%
Josh Jackson
24
5%
De'Aaron Fox
52
10%
Lauri Markkanen
17
3%
Dennis Smith JR
53
10%
Zach Collins
9
2%
Donovan Mitchell
52
10%
Other Players
51
10%
 
Total votes: 510

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Post#1461 » by Neeva » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:06 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:Damn some people in the Knicks board are having second thoughts lol
they should they drafted a project that may never get done.
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Post#1462 » by GreenBloodedC » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:06 am

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Post#1463 » by bs_and_cs » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:06 am

Jayson Tatum is fun.

Period. I'm glad the Celtics took him for that reason alone (although it helps that he looks very talented too).
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Post#1464 » by PierceFan4ever » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:08 am

Tatum is looking scary. Making difficult shots look easy
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Post#1465 » by Spens1 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:08 am

would it be a stretch to say that Tatum is a bit like a young Carmelo Anthony. They share similar strengths and weaknesses on the floor. Both can score from anywhere and are so hard to defend, both not the greatest defenders though but it doesn't really matter when they score that much.
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Post#1466 » by bs_and_cs » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:11 am

Spens1 wrote:would it be a stretch to say that Tatum is a bit like a young Carmelo Anthony. They share similar strengths and weaknesses on the floor. Both can score from anywhere and are so hard to defend, both not the greatest defenders though but it doesn't really matter when they score that much.


I mmean it's tough on a kid when you compare them to a future hall of famer like Melo.

But they do look very similar.
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Post#1467 » by Spens1 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:18 am

bs_and_cs wrote:
Spens1 wrote:would it be a stretch to say that Tatum is a bit like a young Carmelo Anthony. They share similar strengths and weaknesses on the floor. Both can score from anywhere and are so hard to defend, both not the greatest defenders though but it doesn't really matter when they score that much.


I mmean it's tough on a kid when you compare them to a future hall of famer like Melo.

But they do look very similar.


yeah i know its rough to start off with but he's honestly polished offensively. Seen a lot more out of him than Jackson (though Jackson probably will be the better 2 way player long term).
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#1468 » by MartinToVaught » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:26 am

I have no idea where we found this Jamil Wilson guy, but he's a beast right now.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#1469 » by MartinToVaught » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:34 am

I know it's "just summer league," but IMO, with the way Brice Johnson has been playing, he needs to get some minutes in the real games.
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Post#1470 » by thamadkant » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:35 am

bs_and_cs wrote:Phoenix is going to regret passing on DSJ for a long time.



why?

they drafted BPA at 4.

They did try to trade for another pick but failed.



And Suns have a clutter of PGs... if anyone will regret it, its KNICKS...
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Post#1471 » by thamadkant » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:38 am

Big_C_KU wrote:I think you can say that Josh Jackson has looked the worst of any of the players picked in the top 15 so far. Maybe even top 20.



he's had an 18/9 game and 15/10 game, with good defense and passing.

His hustle and defense will translate... all the other players lighting up shots and scoring 20-25 points are more likely NOT to repeat those against NBA level defense.
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Post#1472 » by thamadkant » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:42 am

People here judging high offensive performances as clear indicators will likely be disappointed come regular season when green light to ball dominate and shoot will be restricted to the stars.

What I look for in these games are the little things... the smart movement, passes, hustle, defensive awareness and overall energy/effort.... these will translate to the NBA immediately.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#1473 » by zimpy27 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:43 am

Neeva wrote:
PierceFan4ever wrote:Damn some people in the Knicks board are having second thoughts lol
they should they drafted a project that may never get done.


It's summer league, let's see a season before we judge mistakes.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#1474 » by Pointgod » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:49 am

Dennis Smith Jr is what happens when GMs fall for narratives over actual talent. Every negative thing I heard about this kid questioned his "attitude" or his team losing. Like none of that matters in the NCAA when the talent is there. DSJ had top 3 pick potential you'd think any team outside of the top 3 would take a chance on him. Knicks and Bulls especially screwed up passing on him.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#1475 » by FlatearthZorro » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:51 am

Pointgod wrote:Dennis Smith Jr is what happens when GMs fall for narratives over actual talent. Every negative thing I heard about this kid questioned his "attitude" or his team losing. Like none of that matters in the NCAA when the talent is there. DSJ had top 3 pick potential you'd think any team outside of the top 3 would take a chance on him. Knicks and Bulls especially screwed up passing on him.


My 2nd fav player in the draft. Danny wanted to get him too, couldn't find a pick. I knew people were wrong on him. Sick athelte with pretty decent skills. Watch him be better than guys in the top 5.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#1476 » by Higgs Boston » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:51 am

Tatum made an assist OMG
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#1477 » by LoveTheNBA23 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:57 am

Higgs Boston wrote:Tatum made an assist OMG


Haha That's funny because I thought the same thing. Don't think he's had one since Utah summer league.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#1478 » by KingFox » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:04 am

azcatz11 wrote:DSJ looks like a man out there - he is so athletic and smooth. He makes Lonzo look like a little boy highschooler. I bet the Lakers are pissed they took Ball over DSJ :lol:

Oh God, you guys are gonna say this about every PG that has a decent summer league game :lol: stop

I think they made the right choice with Ball (for them)
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#1479 » by Old Man Game » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:08 am

Every shot by Brown outside of a dunk is a shot I'd rather see Tatum take.
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Re: Las Vegas Summer league - July 7-17, 2017 

Post#1480 » by azcatz11 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:09 am

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azcatz11 wrote:DSJ looks like a man out there - he is so athletic and smooth. He makes Lonzo look like a little boy highschooler. I bet the Lakers are pissed they took Ball over DSJ :lol:

Oh God, you guys are gonna say this about every PG that has a decent summer league game :lol: stop

I think they made the right choice with Ball (for them)


No, they didn't. Did you see DSJ tonight? He dominated again. These two are so dramatically different from a ceiling perspective it's like comparing PJ Brown to Kevin Garnett.
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