RingsDontLie wrote:PerkinsFor3 wrote:RingsDontLie wrote:
Nah. Dude looks average imo. Honestly reminds me of Smush Parker and I'm not trying to hate on the guy. They are both around the same height. Smush could look good at times. Dunked over Ben Wallace, had like 4 20+ point games as a laker starter.
But this dude is too small. He's not going to score in the regular season. Won't say he'll be as bad as Smush. Just not sure from that highlight reel. He looks average, and he looks like he's playing at his ceiling.
This type of post will come back to bite you in the ass, just like the posts I quoted earlier. You'll say you dont remember saying this and ignore it.
Thats perfectly fine, but at one point people will get fed up with the ailly hot takes and one sided posting on anything Lakers related.
Im mostly wondering, how can you say it looks like hes playing at his ceiling? Whats the indication there?
Possibly it could. I still stand by my other statements, Ball could be a generational talent. And I expect Ingram to have PG13 type numbers next season. People think I'm crazy here for thinking these things. Many thought Kobe to MJ comparisons were crazy when Kobe first came in the league. Where are they now?
DSJ looks average to me right now. I saw nothing in that summer league game that made me think he was special. Understanding it is just one game. I'm trying to translate that style against real regular season defenses...it just won't fly. He's too small and not exactly IT quick either. He had good movement when getting to the cup, and he's quick and athletic like most pro athletes. Could he be a good role player in this league? Absolutely. If you are looking for a star, I just don't see that.
I just brought up Smush so people are aware of fool's gold. If I had to guess DSJ looks like fool's gold.
Josh Jackson looks awfully slow out there. Not too impressed with him. I'm liking Fultz, Tatum, Ball, and Kuzma right now. I like Kuzma more than all three just because of the bargain aspect. And I like Ball more than Fultz and Tatum because of his style of play especially in this era where the pace is getting back to that faster 80s pace. I am looking forward to showtime basketball part 2 with Ball.
1. How is Ball going to be a "generational talent" lacking the necessary skills to even play the point guard position? You could randomly select someone from the crowd at one of the summer league games and he'd have trouble dribbling around him. He has no mid-range or close-range game because his handle is so basic and we've already seen how easily his shot is blocked, which is what some of us were saying about him months ago pre-draft. Most of his scoring in college was from step-back threes or from off-ball cuts to the rim behind a ball-watching defence. Neither of those will be a steady source of points for him in the NBA.
2. Brandon Ingram had a bad debut season by any metric - yes he improved at the tail end of it but he has a ways to go to even middle of the pack for his position, let alone anywhere near a prime-George, or even a non-prime George for that matter. The only statistic Ingram will approach George this year is likely in turnovers, given George has never really been known to be that big on ball-security.
3. Kobe is an over-rated chucker and shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Michael Jordan. For the majority of the titles he won he wasn't even the best player on his own team, let alone near someone who is arguably the best player of all time.
4. DSJ will be a lot better player in the NBA than Ball will be, injury aside - you can already see him breaking down a defence with his dribble and good PnR execution. His shot mechanics are also a lot better, and that takes into account the fact DSJ is occasionally sloppy, especially in catch and shoot situations where his shot is really a two-parter. DSJ has an actual short and mid-range game that opens up a universe of possibilities for him offensively; Lonzo will be stuck dumping the ball off in the half-court while DSJ will be attacking wrinkles in the defence with his elite first step, excellent ball control and explosive athleticism. In other words DSJ is an actual NBA point-guard, Ball isn't. Comparing DSJ to Smush Parker is about as absurd as stating Brandon Ingram will have "Paul George type numbers this season".
5. Kuzma looks a good pick up but there are a number of players from other teams picked later in the draft who have shone this summer league. You should dial back on the hyperbole a bit at least until they've played some actual NBA games before you've slotted them into the Hall of Fame. You're doing nothing to prick the perception Lakers fans are the most deluded in the NBA.
