2017 Nets Offseason Thread III

[NyCeEvO]

You keep saying Detroit fans love KCP but if you go to their forum they are calling him a brick machine and are not at all sad thats hes leaving.

The same ones that were saying that he was the only one who gave a damn on the court? I see a lot of mixed opinions, and a lot of frustration at how things have happened.

Lol Im just saying that not a single one of them is sad that hes leaving. That alone is telling.

I wouldn't be sad about KCP if I got Bradley in return since he's the player I'd hope KCP could become. It wouldn't surprise me if Bradley receives a richer deal than KCP when he's a free agent at the end of this upcoming season.

[NyCeEvO]

The more I think about it, the less and less I want Marks to sign KCP to anything above $18 million a season and even that's too much. He's a decent young player, but the worst thing Marks could do is lock the team into some crazy 4/92 kind of deal for him. Ideally the market has completely dried up on him and his agent waves the white flag and takes something reasonable like 4/60.

Can he even do that? I thought we had $17mil in cap plus a $4mil room exception.

[hood30]

The more I think about it, the less and less I want Marks to sign KCP to anything above $18 million a season and even that's too much. He's a decent young player, but the worst thing Marks could do is lock the team into some crazy 4/92 kind of deal for him. Ideally the market has completely dried up on him and his agent waves the white flag and takes something reasonable like 4/60.

Exactly...Hope Brooklyn aren't dumb enough to offer this guy huge money when no one is really knocking on his door with a huge contract....There's a reason Detroit are willing to let him go for free.

It's crazy that a guy like KCP could get so much money while putting up weak stats offensively..We're talking about a guy who shot 40%FG and 35% 3PTFG...13ppg on 33 minutes pe game...This is so average and you really want to give this guy 18M for this type of production?...

[imanshar]

I think we should just sign Ilyasova and call it a day. We have too many guards and ball handlers and KCP isn't anything special. The cap space can come handy before trade deadline or even next off-season.

[DarkXaero]

The same ones that were saying that he was the only one who gave a damn on the court? I see a lot of mixed opinions, and a lot of frustration at how things have happened.

Lol Im just saying that not a single one of them is sad that hes leaving. That alone is telling.

I wouldn't be sad about KCP if I got Bradley in return since he's the player I'd hope KCP could become. It wouldn't surprise me if Bradley receives a richer deal than KCP when he's a free agent at the end of this upcoming season.

We should just wait till next FA to sign Bradley to a big deal instead.

[ChokeFasncists]

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Don't think we need him anymore with DMC here. DMC can play PF.

OTOH, who would prefer Vezenkov at .5 mil over Mirotic at 19 mil to be a backup pf?

[ChokeFasncists]

The same ones that were saying that he was the only one who gave a damn on the court? I see a lot of mixed opinions, and a lot of frustration at how things have happened.

Lol Im just saying that not a single one of them is sad that hes leaving. That alone is telling.

I wouldn't be sad about KCP if I got Bradley in return since he's the player I'd hope KCP could become. It wouldn't surprise me if Bradley receives a richer deal than KCP when he's a free agent at the end of this upcoming season.

This is it, Bradley is definitely better than KCP. And they've got Stanley Johnson to replace Morris.

[ChokeFasncists]

I think we should just sign Ilyasova and call it a day. We have too many guards and ball handlers and KCP isn't anything special. The cap space can come handy before trade deadline or even next off-season.

I really wanted Ilyasova, but if DMC can play PF, we don't need him anymore? If he can play center it'd be a different story.

[ChokeFasncists]

Lol Im just saying that not a single one of them is sad that hes leaving. That alone is telling.

I wouldn't be sad about KCP if I got Bradley in return since he's the player I'd hope KCP could become. It wouldn't surprise me if Bradley receives a richer deal than KCP when he's a free agent at the end of this upcoming season.

We should just wait till next FA to sign Bradley to a big deal instead.

That'd be nice, one problem tho, he's even smaller than KCP, we've got a lot of guards but thin up front.

[ChokeFasncists]

bucks fan coming in peace

bucks send: rashad vaughn, john henson
bucks receive: jeremy lin

happy to include something else. what needs to be included?

What's wrong with Henson?

[JoseRizal]

I think we should just sign Ilyasova and call it a day. We have too many guards and ball handlers and KCP isn't anything special. The cap space can come handy before trade deadline or even next off-season.

We can still sign both.

This team still lacks talent. If half of your regular roster is playing in the summer league and not even blowing up the no-names, then expect a dismal showing come regular season. We need to field a respectable lineup if we want ourselves to be taken seriously by other team's players/prospective FAs.

Signing KCP at a reasonable rate 4/60 or 4/70 would give us the talent and the asset. He can either be part of the core or can be easily traded due to his age and contract.

KCP is a 2-way player and much better than THJ or Crabbe. He could be our best perimeter defender and will definitely flourish in Kenny's offense less the pressure of being the first option in Detroit.

He's the best available talent right now, so signing him up will definitely be a positive boost in our lineup. He'll be a starter Day 1 and will be an upgrade on the wing. This will allow CLV to develop further off the bench and gain confidence. Having a guard/wing rotation of Lin, Dlo, KCP & CLV we'll be 2-deep in those positions. That for me is a good problem to have.

[vincecarter4pres]

The more I think about it, the less and less I want Marks to sign KCP to anything above $18 million a season and even that's too much. He's a decent young player, but the worst thing Marks could do is lock the team into some crazy 4/92 kind of deal for him. Ideally the market has completely dried up on him and his agent waves the white flag and takes something reasonable like 4/60.

Can he even do that? I thought we had $17mil in cap plus a $4mil room exception.

I thought we had about $22 million left in cap?

[Paradise]

The more I think about it, the less and less I want Marks to sign KCP to anything above $18 million a season and even that's too much. He's a decent young player, but the worst thing Marks could do is lock the team into some crazy 4/92 kind of deal for him. Ideally the market has completely dried up on him and his agent waves the white flag and takes something reasonable like 4/60.

Can he even do that? I thought we had $17mil in cap plus a $4mil room exception.

I thought we had about $22 million left in cap?

Still haven't touched the MLE.


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[NyCeEvO]

Can he even do that? I thought we had $17mil in cap plus a $4mil room exception.

I thought we had about $22 million left in cap?

Still haven't touched the MLE.


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MLE is different from the Room exception:

HoopsHype explains: What is the NBA mid-level exception?
Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level Exception ($5.628 million in 2016-17):

The largest mid-level exception available to teams is the non-taxpayer mid-level exception, which is available to teams that are under the luxury tax apron, which is always $4 million above the luxury tax line. Players can be signed up to four years with 4.5 percent annual raises each season.

Taxpayer Mid-Level Exception ($3.477 million in 2016-17):

The taxpayer mid-level exception is available to teams above the luxury tax apron, and it works similarly with 4.5 percent raises each season after a fixed starting salary, but one major difference to the non-taxpayer version is that players can only be signed up to three years.

Room Mid-Level Exception ($2.898 million in 2016-17):

“Room” is the lowest of the three mid-level exceptions and available to teams that are under the cap enough to lose the more valuable exceptions. The room exception is also shorter in terms of maximum years, and players can only be signed up to two years.

via http://hoopshype.com/2016/11/04/hoopshype-explains-what-is-the-nba-mid-level-exception/

[TheBrooklynKidd]

Can he even do that? I thought we had $17mil in cap plus a $4mil room exception.

I thought we had about $22 million left in cap?

Still haven't touched the MLE.


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And I doubt we will this season. Roster is pretty much full and we need to maintain space for next offseason if we sign KCP this year.

[vincecarter4pres]

So what's the timeline on when the cap space actually frees up again?

[NyCeEvO]

Lol Im just saying that not a single one of them is sad that hes leaving. That alone is telling.

I wouldn't be sad about KCP if I got Bradley in return since he's the player I'd hope KCP could become. It wouldn't surprise me if Bradley receives a richer deal than KCP when he's a free agent at the end of this upcoming season.

We should just wait till next FA to sign Bradley to a big deal instead.

As others have said, Bradley is 6'2". At that height, he needs to play the 1 unless he's paired with an allstar guard like IT or a much taller guard.

Since Kenny wants multiple ballhandlers in a lineup, I don't see him playing alongside JLin or DAR in the starting lineup. The max I'd be willing to give him is a 5yr/$80mil since I don't want to allocate that much money to a bench player.

I do believe Bradley is probably worth that much, if not more, but due to the makeup of our team, I don't think we can afford to give him more than that if we want to be able to have money for our other starters.

[Netaman]

So what's the timeline on when the cap space actually frees up again?

Wednesday. They had 2 days to do the physical, so that should have happened today or yesterday, and then 2 more days to evaluate the results.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Its getting crazy quiet on KCP.

Seems like teams are not interested except for the Lakers on a one year deal.

[Ror1997]

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