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Negrodamus wrote:I'm sure he "asked" for a selfie and not completely imposed on his personal space to force a selfie with Fultz. Usually people go from gratitude to aggression in a split second.
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Unbreakable99 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:I'm sure he "asked" for a selfie and not completely imposed on his personal space to force a selfie with Fultz. Usually people go from gratitude to aggression in a split second.
CoreyGallagher wrote:I hope the Cavs don't take Embiid because then we'll take Embiid.
Little confused--you're not high on Fultz but you're fully expecting him to become at least as good as McCollum and Brandon frickin Roy? Roy was an all-NBA level guy, efficient 20/5/5 player who really thought the game well and rarely made mistakes. He'd be on the list of the best third options in history. Even McCollum scored a very efficient 23+ pts this season, great chance Fultz never gets to that level. I see Roy as Fultz's reasonable best case scenario, McCollum with better passing would also be an excellent outcome.Unbreakable99 wrote: but if he can become an offensive player on the level of a CJ McCollum or Brandon Roy then that's pretty good for a 3rd option. You sure can do a lot worse than that. I just hope he can become at least as good as CJ. I'll start there as my baseline..
Last I heard that was Roberson's story and the waiter said something different. Not sure if there was proof given either way, but it did seem suspicious that Roberson was talking about a $500 bottle at a place that was basically an independent Applebees (cheap apps-and-cocktails place).Old Man Game wrote: I don't know who has the moral high ground here, I wasn't there. But I do know I hate it when people do **** like this to athletes. Put out a one sided story like this. Just like the guy putting Andre Roberson on blast over the $13 dollar tip on a $487 tab only to find out it was literally one bottle of liquor that was handed across the bar to him and he didn't provide any additional service. GTFO indeed.
Unbreakable99 wrote:Negrodamus wrote:I'm sure he "asked" for a selfie and not completely imposed on his personal space to force a selfie with Fultz. Usually people go from gratitude to aggression in a split second.
And people say Fultz doesn't show as much aggression as he should
europeanfan wrote:People need to stop comparing him with small shooting guards like McCollum. He's already ten times the passer rookie Kyrie or rookie Tony Parker were, and these guys were never called combo guards.
Feels exactly like Harden in OKC, overlooked in the shadow of the other 2 stars when they had him and when they lost him it turned out he could run the point at MVP level... Would have been better to know a bit earlier.
Ericb5 wrote:LloydFree wrote:Old Man Game wrote:Hey guys, just stopping by your forum to check out what the buzz was on mMarkelle. I I can't believe how down so many of you are on him. I think you looks amazing. Hopefully Philly will trade him to the Thunder for a bag of chips or something if you think he's that bad.
For me,
It's not that he's a bad player. He's a good player. It's that it was a stupid trade for a player that isn't better than a number of the guys taken after him. If they traded up to get an other-worldly talent like Simmons or Embiid that's understandable. But Fultz isn't that kind of talent.
Because of the trade-up, he'll be judged against the guys who went behind him and the top 5 pick next year, that they they gave away. It was dumb move, to get what... the next CJ McCollum?
I agree, but as long as Fultz is a star, it's a good trade, even if Tatum/Jackson plus the player drafted with the pick we gave the Celtics also turn into stars. We would lose the trade on points, but win it in the sense that we maximized fit and got a guard that we needed that wasn't otherwise available.
We only need him to be a third banana after all.
Basically the math can work now that we are beyond the asset acquisition phase of the rebuild. Before we had our first star it would have been a bad trade.
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Wilfried wrote:Thing is, it's also important that next year's draft doesn't seem to have a top guard prospect in it.
So the move is very understandeable.
Kobblehead wrote:Wilfried wrote:Thing is, it's also important that next year's draft doesn't seem to have a top guard prospect in it.
So the move is very understandeable.
Obviously guys need to prove it on the court, but Collin Sexton and Trevon Duval could both be Top 10 prospects. Sexton could go as high #1 overall. He's an elite scoring talent that happens to have Derrick Rose athleticism.
76ciology wrote:
Do you think he'll get any attention if he didn't make up that story?
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Ericb5 wrote:LloydFree wrote:Old Man Game wrote:Hey guys, just stopping by your forum to check out what the buzz was on mMarkelle. I I can't believe how down so many of you are on him. I think you looks amazing. Hopefully Philly will trade him to the Thunder for a bag of chips or something if you think he's that bad.
For me,
It's not that he's a bad player. He's a good player. It's that it was a stupid trade for a player that isn't better than a number of the guys taken after him. If they traded up to get an other-worldly talent like Simmons or Embiid that's understandable. But Fultz isn't that kind of talent.
Because of the trade-up, he'll be judged against the guys who went behind him and the top 5 pick next year, that they they gave away. It was dumb move, to get what... the next CJ McCollum?
I agree, but as long as Fultz is a star, it's a good trade, even if Tatum/Jackson plus the player drafted with the pick we gave the Celtics also turn into stars. We would lose the trade on points, but win it in the sense that we maximized fit and got a guard that we needed that wasn't otherwise available.
We only need him to be a third banana after all.
Basically the math can work now that we are beyond the asset acquisition phase of the rebuild. Before we had our first star it would have been a bad trade.
Fischella wrote:I think none of you guys that are pro-Embiid no how basketball works today.. is way easier to win it all with Omer Asik than Olajuwon.
Actually if you ask me which Center I want for my perfect championship caliber team, I will chose Asik hands down
long range bomber wrote:Kobblehead wrote:Wilfried wrote:Thing is, it's also important that next year's draft doesn't seem to have a top guard prospect in it.
So the move is very understandeable.
Obviously guys need to prove it on the court, but Collin Sexton and Trevon Duval could both be Top 10 prospects. Sexton could go as high #1 overall. He's an elite scoring talent that happens to have Derrick Rose athleticism.
I listened to a Chad Ford podcast recently and he suggested that Sexton and Duval both project to be behind this year's crop of PG prospects in Fultz, Ball, Fox and Smith, and potentially even Ntilikina. His point was that teams that have struggled in the last few years trying to find a PG should definitely attempt to get one from the 2017 draft as opposed to the next 2 drafts.
I'm seeing a pattern here.