Melo Thread #????? - Update PG 58 - 4-way scenarios explored (In Georgia?)

El Poochio · Post #341 » by **El Poochio** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:17 pm

#StayMe7o

Fury · Post #342 » by **Fury** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:18 pm

El Poochio wrote:#StayMe7o

More like #LeaveMe7o

camillepd · Post #343 » by **camillepd** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:18 pm

Melo is going to the Cavs not the Rockets.

Fury · Post #344 » by **Fury** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:19 pm

camillepd wrote:Melo is going to the Cavs not the Rockets.

Stop saying that unless you got a source

Knicksrule2k4 · Post #345 » by **Knicksrule2k4** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:20 pm

camillepd wrote:Melo is going to the Cavs not the Rockets.

If we trade Melo for Shumpert and Frye, old Knick rejects.. we should just keep him.. not worth it

F N 11 · Post #346 » by **F N 11** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:21 pm

Knicksrule2k4 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Closer to reality.. how long does it take to make a trade? Sheesh lol

Great another paraphrasing article. This is a nightmare.

Kampuchea · Post #347 » by **Kampuchea** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:22 pm

Let's keep him, he's been a mentor to KP and maybe things will work out with the team now giving Horny full autonomy. Playoffs a possibility.

sushibear · Post #348 » by **sushibear** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:23 pm

Knicksrule2k4 wrote:
camillepd wrote:Melo is going to the Cavs not the Rockets.

If we trade Melo for Shumpert and Frye, old Knick rejects.. we should just keep him.. not worth it

Straight love for melo would work but why would cavs do that. Cavs trade would be harder to pull off.

Knicksrule2k4 · Post #349 » by **Knicksrule2k4** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:24 pm

Kampuchea wrote:Let's keep him, he's been a mentor to KP and maybe things will work out with the team now giving Horny full autonomy. Playoffs a possibility.

He chewed out KP for praising the triangle which at the time was our system and influenced him to turn on the front office. We dont need that kind of mentor

frothbrain · Post #350 » by **frothbrain** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:24 pm

Does anyone seriously believe a trade in which the only significant outgoing player for Houston is Ryan Anderson will return the Knicks anything of value? Mills needs to let this stew until Morey is willing to actually include a valued player such as Eric Gordon.

stuporman · Post #351 » by **stuporman** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:25 pm

god shammgod wrote:there were people who actually left this site over lin....it would be kind of like leaving this site over not re-signing langston galloway

To be fair many of those posters came to the site because of Lin, remember the influx of Lin themed handles rolling through for those few weeks? Also Lin is better than Gallow, Lin has been a pretty productive even with the bouncing around from team to team he's done but more to his popularity is he is a one of a kind cultural icon.

HarthorneWingo · Post #352 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:25 pm

stuporman wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
stuporman wrote:
Exactly, getting assets would be ideal but not fouling up the cap over the immediate future is more important, a healthy fiscal situation is needed to rebuild. He's cost the Knicks so many assets to get him and keep him happy the Knicks should not be concerned about giving him what he wants in leaving if it means the stink of the deal lasts for years on the cap or in costing more assets. It's better to let him opt out and reset that way. Other than a chirpy Jax the Knicks have treated Melo really well but the media has spun it like the Knicks are monsters, they are just incompetent, that's different.

Right. We need to hold firm and be willing to walk away from a deal if we don't get what we want. If nothing materializes, let Melo be come off the bench as 6th man on a rebuilding team. Trust me, he will then come to the table - hat in hand - begging for an immediate buyout.

Except no buyout, he doesn't get what he wants while still getting his money, screw him on that. If he wants out he pushes hard for Houston to get the deal done and cough up what it takes or he opts out after the season, the Knicks don't owe him anything more than that, they don't owe him both his contract money and freedom to go where he wants.

A buyout for just this coming season would be ok though, right?

Greenie · Post #353 » by **Greenie** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:29 pm

drekwins wrote:
Greenie wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:

Is KP, WHG, Frank, and THjr at least not the start of a young core?

They are pieces that may or may not become core players.

I feel what you're saying about everyone besides KP. He's the only guaranteed long-term core guy (barring injury). The others can flop, be dealt, etc. at any time. They still have a lot to prove.

So does KP.
He simply has the highest upside.

Billy Goat · Post #354 » by **Billy Goat** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:30 pm

frothbrain wrote:Does anyone seriously believe a trade in which the only significant outgoing player for Houston is Ryan Anderson will return the Knicks anything of value? Mills needs to let this stew until Morey is willing to actually include a valued player such as Eric Gordon.

If the Knicks goal is to just get rid of him, the buyout is the best choice for the Knicks. Melo isn't going to net you anything of value here.

The well is already poisoned with Mills back in full command...might as well bring Melo back and embrace full MSG chaos like the mid 2000's.

Greenie · Post #355 » by **Greenie** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:31 pm

Knicksrule2k4 wrote:
Kampuchea wrote:Let's keep him, he's been a mentor to KP and maybe things will work out with the team now giving Horny full autonomy. Playoffs a possibility.

He chewed out KP for praising the triangle which at the time was our system and influenced him to turn on the front office. We dont need that kind of mentor

That's a rumor.
I wouldn't put it past the media to make that crap up.

god shammgod · Post #356 » by **god shammgod** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:31 pm

all of these articles say nothing except that the rockets want him and he wants the rockets. wake me up when someone wants ryan anderson. anything that takes this long probably doesn't have a great chance of happening.

Greenie · Post #357 » by **Greenie** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:32 pm

stuporman wrote:
god shammgod wrote:there were people who actually left this site over lin....it would be kind of like leaving this site over not re-signing langston galloway

To be fair many of those posters came to the site because of Lin, remember the influx of Lin themed handles rolling through for those few weeks? Also Lin is better than Gallow, Lin has been a pretty productive even with the bouncing around from team to team he's done but more to his popularity is he is a one of a kind cultural icon.

Lin is better than LG.
Still, that's low expectations for an icon.

El Poochio · Post #358 » by **El Poochio** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:33 pm

Fury wrote:
El Poochio wrote:#StayMe7o

More like #LeaveMe7o

Stay in Houston Four Seasons Hotel though

Fury · Post #359 » by **Fury** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:33 pm

god shammgod wrote:all of these articles say nothing except that the rockets want him and he want the rockets. wake me up when someone wants ryan anderson. anything that takes this long probably doesn't have a great chance of happening.

Lol

stuporman · Post #360 » by **stuporman** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:34 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
stuporman wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:

Right. We need to hold firm and be willing to walk away from a deal if we don't get what we want. If nothing materializes, let Melo be come off the bench as 6th man on a rebuilding team. Trust me, he will then come to the table - hat in hand - begging for an immediate buyout.

Except no buyout, he doesn't get what he wants while still getting his money, screw him on that. If he wants out he pushes hard for Houston to get the deal done and cough up what it takes or he opts out after the season, the Knicks don't owe him anything more than that, they don't owe him both his contract money and freedom to go where he wants.

A buyout for just this coming season would be ok though, right?

No screw that, he doesn't get to play with his boat buddies while getting paid tens of millions from the Knicks. Fit him with a tank commander helmet and tell him to suck it up, he made his choice when he signed the contract and wanted a NTC, he gets no coddling about it. :lol: