Welcome Simmons

[PhilasFinest]

Simmons is going to LIVE at the FT line. He was elite at it in college and will be in the NBA.

If he gets any type of Jumper to fall, and just develops to mindset to just take the shots, he will have some big nights scoring the ball for us.

Love seeing this type of progress.

[76ciology]

Simmons is going to LIVE at the FT line. He was elite at it in college and will be in the NBA.

If he gets any type of Jumper to fall, and just develops to mindset to just take the shots, he will have some big nights scoring the ball for us.

Love seeing this type of progress.

I think he can be a good FT shooter. I watched his HS clips & his coach entrusted him to take crucial FTs down the stretch.

[TFK]

The skeptic in me says "it's an empty gym, and who knows how many times it took him to make 9 straight."

The optimist in me says "I don't care that nobody was guarding him and if it took 1000 tries to make 9 straight... making 9 straight from NBA 3 range is not something every NBA player can do even in an empty gym."

If he can become even just an above-awful but below-average shooter, his ceiling goes through the roof

[76ciology]

The skeptic in me says "it's an empty gym, and who knows how many times it took him to make 9 straight."

The optimist in me says "I don't care that nobody was guarding him and if it took 1000 tries to make 9 straight... making 9 straight from NBA 3 range is not something every NBA player can do even in an empty gym."

If he can become even just an above-awful but below-average shooter, his ceiling goes through the roof

Realist in me says he missed the 10th. This is like Christopher Nolan's inception to the spinning top. He makes the 10th, then its all just a dream.

[TFK]

The skeptic in me says "it's an empty gym, and who knows how many times it took him to make 9 straight."

The optimist in me says "I don't care that nobody was guarding him and if it took 1000 tries to make 9 straight... making 9 straight from NBA 3 range is not something every NBA player can do even in an empty gym."

If he can become even just an above-awful but below-average shooter, his ceiling goes through the roof

Realist in me says he missed the 10th. This is like Christopher Nolan's inception to the spinning top. He makes the 10th, then its all just a dream.

Love Nolan and love than movie, but don't like the analogy cuz don't think that's the point. He could've missed 10 straight before it and 10 straight after it, but that doesn't change the fact that it takes at least some natural and/or learned ability to shoot to make 9 straight shots from that distance (swishing most).

[Chris76]

Simmons is going to LIVE at the FT line. He was elite at it in college and will be in the NBA.

If he gets any type of Jumper to fall, and just develops to mindset to just take the shots, he will have some big nights scoring the ball for us.

Love seeing this type of progress.

I think he can be a good FT shooter. I watched his HS clips & his coach entrusted him to take crucial FTs down the stretch.

If Simmons could get to 80% that would be great with the amount of attempts he'll get. Anyway, to have 3 sharp shooters and Embiid is going to open the floor for him, defenders are going to struggle to stay with him.

[eyeatoma]

This is the sexiest thing i've ever seen.

I'll be in my bunk.

Hahhahahaha!

[Simmons25]

simmons is not a scorer. and its nothing wrong with it, because we have enough scorers. embiid will score a point or more per minute. fultz will score a lot. redick will score a lot with a lot of open 3's.

on another team without those teammates, yeah he prolly could average 20 ppg, but thats not the ideal way to use him anyway.

i think he will get 9+ apg with 12-15 ppg along with 7 boards.

I agree I don't think his scoring numbers will be that high. I'm also thinking in the 12-14ppg range.

I think he will have his nights when he has 25 or 30 points in a game but he is the sort of guy that will only go looking to score if the team is struggling to find ways to score. He has a lot of guys around him now in Embiid, Fultz, Covington and Redick that are natural scorers.

How he scores will really come down to how we defend. If we have an elite defense he is going to have a hell of a lot of fast break opportunities... especially if he plays as a PG on the perimeter and has the ability to leak out after a defensive Joel rebound. He is going to be beating most opponents down the floor.

[Simmons25]

Simmons is going to LIVE at the FT line. He was elite at it in college and will be in the NBA.

If he gets any type of Jumper to fall, and just develops to mindset to just take the shots, he will have some big nights scoring the ball for us.

Love seeing this type of progress.

I think he can be a good FT shooter. I watched his HS clips & his coach entrusted him to take crucial FTs down the stretch.

Yes I remember his HS coach saying that on paper his FT % doesn't look good... but he always seems to make the pressure is on and it really matters. Same with his scoring... he never seemed to miss when it was 2 mins to go and the team badly needing a score. He seems to have been born with the clutch gene.

[Simmons25]

Anybody can make 9 straight.

It's the form that you guys should be encouraged about, looks way better than it did when he first got to the league.

He actually shot like this back in high school if you look at the tape, as in high school he was played more as a guard. In College where he was the 4... we don't know how he looked shooting them as he only took 3 of them the entire season.

The only problem I really had with his form is that he leant back on all of his jumpers and was often shooting it on the way down rather than on the way up. He seems to have cleaned that part up... but it was always very fixable. His shot always looked very fluid like this and he doesn't have any hitches in his action.

Simmons himself just before he started College said he considers himself a good shooter but just needs to get reps up. Well in College he didn't get those reps up from a combination of him being able to get to the basket at will and being horribly misused by being played in the post.

[RSW7]

Dont get me wrong. I know Ben plays PG and Fultz plays SG on offense then Ben plays PF on defense. But why do you guys think they state Ben as PG and not as point forward like a LeBron? Is it because Ben is like Lonzo that has a questionable scoring and shooting ability so he a favoring too much on his play making game?

I think it is because Brett, being a former PG himself, sees point forwards as a distinctly different role. There is a line between the Chris Paul's or the LeBron o Draymond types.

From his various quotes, Brown draws a stark distinction between the 2, where a PG is the primary ball handler and initiator for the vast majority of possessions, especially after dead ball situations. A point forward might be a secondary playmaker who pushes during transition or who becomes a fulcrum once the set's been called and the play is running. Draymond, for instance, Becomes a playmaker after running the screen/roll with Curry, or he sets up at the elbow extended to find cutters and shooters. LeBron goes back and forth, but normally lets the pg on the floor with him advance the ball and start the action. Most importantly, Lbj has resisted being labeled as a PG for years, ever since he was one as a rookie. Finds playing the point full time as uncomfortable, much like he disdains playing the 4.

IMO, The difference between the 2 roles in Brown's offense can be seen in between TJ or Sergio vs Dario's spot. Another Spurs example would be Parker vs Diaw.

[ziggy77]

Yeah, point forward is more like a secondary playmaker who can initiate some offense when play is called for him, bring the ball up few times when PG is pressured or the one who will push in transition if he get's a rebound. That is mostly Dario Saric's role.

Ben Simmons is being labeled as a PG so if that is true he will most of the time be the one who brings the ball up, the one who is calling all the plays at the top of the key, first one who will get a pass from center and ect. He is main ball handler and playmaker and his role wont be any different then any other PG in the league.

[76ciology]

Yeah, point forward is more like a secondary playmaker who can initiate some offense when play is called for him, bring the ball up few times when PG is pressured or the one who will push in transition if he get's a rebound. That is mostly Dario Saric's role.

Ben Simmons is being labeled as a PG so if that is true he will most of the time be the one who brings the ball up, the one who is calling all the plays at the top of the key, first one who will get a pass from center and ect. He is main ball handler and playmaker and his role wont be any different then any other PG in the league.

So LeBron is the secondary playmaker?

I know it's just labels. But could the team focusing towards Ben as a playmaker means they think him less of a scorer?

Point guard could also mean a facilitator while a combo guard means a scorer. Curry and Kyrie are combo guards. Rondo and Rubio are point guards. Even referring to Harden as PG is kind of weird.

If you ask me, the team envisions Ben to have more of an all around game then less of him being a volume scorer. Thats also why we went out of our way to get Fultz, who projects to be more of a volume perimeter scorer.

I also think Ben plays the Blake Griffin/Draymond role. Not that sexy but believe me grab and go from a big forward plays a major role for elite offense just watch the NBA finals.Relentless grab and go to breakdown the defense on transition while allowing perimeter guards and forwards to move for off ball scoring opportunity. Having a guard instead of a PF to score, while having a PF to facilitate is a plus on offense (better option).

[Rastas]

[quote="JojoSlimbiid"]


Only 7 of 9 went swish - keep working harder Ben.

[Unbreakable99]

Ben Simmons and two fans.

[ziggy77]

Yeah, point forward is more like a secondary playmaker who can initiate some offense when play is called for him, bring the ball up few times when PG is pressured or the one who will push in transition if he get's a rebound. That is mostly Dario Saric's role.

Ben Simmons is being labeled as a PG so if that is true he will most of the time be the one who brings the ball up, the one who is calling all the plays at the top of the key, first one who will get a pass from center and ect. He is main ball handler and playmaker and his role wont be any different then any other PG in the league.

So LeBron is the secondary playmaker?

I know it's just labels. But could the team focusing towards Ben as a playmaker means they think him less of a scorer?

Point guard could also mean a facilitator while a combo guard means a scorer. Curry and Kyrie are combo guards. Rondo and Rubio are point guards. Even referring to Harden as PG is kind of weird.

If you ask me, the team envisions Ben to have more of an all around game then less of him being a volume scorer. Thats also why we went out of our way to get Fultz, who projects to be more of a volume perimeter scorer.

I also think Ben plays the Blake Griffin/Draymond role. Not that sexy but believe me grab and go from a big forward plays a major role for elite offense just watch the NBA finals.Relentless grab and go to breakdown the defense on transition while allowing perimeter guards and forwards to move for off ball scoring opportunity. Having a guard instead of a PF to score, while having a PF to facilitate is a plus on offense (better option).

Well for him to be labeld PG it doesn't matter what type of mindeset he is and his scoring/passing ratio. Curry and Irving are both point guards and they play 80%-90% of the time on that position. Sometimes will Green, Durant or Lebron bring the ball up and call the play but most of the time, bringing the ball up and play calling will be done by them. If there is not full court preasure and there is no transition they are the ones who will stand next to inbounding player and receive the ball and slowly go to the half court.

Thing is Curry and Irving will call the play and give the ball up to Leborn/Green/Durant and go do some ruuning through the screens or just move to the corner to spot-up.

Combo-guard is player who can play shooting guard and point guard but does not fit the standard of either position.

[ivysixer2000]

Ben Simmons and two fans.

Was that taken today, and if so where?

Also is that JJ on the other side of Bron?

[76ciology]

Ben Simmons and two fans.

Was that taken today, and if so where?

Also is that JJ on the other side of Bron?

No, its steve nash

[Chris76]

Yeah, point forward is more like a secondary playmaker who can initiate some offense when play is called for him, bring the ball up few times when PG is pressured or the one who will push in transition if he get's a rebound. That is mostly Dario Saric's role.

Ben Simmons is being labeled as a PG so if that is true he will most of the time be the one who brings the ball up, the one who is calling all the plays at the top of the key, first one who will get a pass from center and ect. He is main ball handler and playmaker and his role wont be any different then any other PG in the league.

So LeBron is the secondary playmaker?

I know it's just labels. But could the team focusing towards Ben as a playmaker means they think him less of a scorer?

Point guard could also mean a facilitator while a combo guard means a scorer. Curry and Kyrie are combo guards. Rondo and Rubio are point guards. Even referring to Harden as PG is kind of weird.

If you ask me, the team envisions Ben to have more of an all around game then less of him being a volume scorer. Thats also why we went out of our way to get Fultz, who projects to be more of a volume perimeter scorer.

I also think Ben plays the Blake Griffin/Draymond role. Not that sexy but believe me grab and go from a big forward plays a major role for elite offense just watch the NBA finals.Relentless grab and go to breakdown the defense on transition while allowing perimeter guards and forwards to move for off ball scoring opportunity. Having a guard instead of a PF to score, while having a PF to facilitate is a plus on offense (better option).

Good points. Ben will be the playmaker. Blake Griffin with Rondo skills. Ben has elite ball handling skills. In half court, Just like Lebron, he starts at half court, then charges the defender who can't recover. With his size and quickness, this opens passing lanes, floaters, and easy layups. Also, Ben is so versatile, he can be used as a 4, 3, maybe 2, depending on matchups and injuries.

[sixers78]

Empty gym is fine but until I see game footage of him taking attempts let alone making them? Meh

He fixed that shooting on the way down crap he did. That's good to see.