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darealjuice wrote:
We got the Jazz tomorrow at 5 PM for our first game in the SL Playoffs, if we win we go up against the Grizz. Excited to see more of Donovan Mitchell, wonder who'll end up guarding him for us?
matt131 wrote:darealjuice wrote:
We got the Jazz tomorrow at 5 PM for our first game in the SL Playoffs, if we win we go up against the Grizz. Excited to see more of Donovan Mitchell, wonder who'll end up guarding him for us?
I'd be so stoked if Josh can contain him on D. I hope that we play with level heads and high spirits. Let's get the W!
Mulhollanddrive wrote:Jordan Bell makes me a bit jealous we didn't get him.
Preacherpj wrote:
He shot 32% from deep last year and took 225 of those shots, that's a killer.
Preacherpj wrote:Another thought on Chriss -- I wish he'd drop the 3pt attempts for right now.
I remember listening to Drew Hanlen who is an NBA skills coach talk about really picking a couple specific things to improve on, and when you master those, moving on to other skills. In other words, you can't get good at everything at once. This is something Kobe talks about a lot as well, when he first came into the league, really mastering a few specific things, before attacking others.
I would love Chriss to really just focus on his mid-range game, post up game and ball handling. With his spin move, athleticism and size, he should be a nightmare in the post, but that's not going to happen if he's jacking 3 pointers.
He shot 32% from deep last year and took 225 of those shots, that's a killer.
Preacherpj wrote:Another thought on Chriss -- I wish he'd drop the 3pt attempts for right now.
I remember listening to Drew Hanlen who is an NBA skills coach talk about really picking a couple specific things to improve on, and when you master those, moving on to other skills. In other words, you can't get good at everything at once. This is something Kobe talks about a lot as well, when he first came into the league, really mastering a few specific things, before attacking others.
I would love Chriss to really just focus on his mid-range game, post up game and ball handling. With his spin move, athleticism and size, he should be a nightmare in the post, but that's not going to happen if he's jacking 3 pointers.
He shot 32% from deep last year and took 225 of those shots, that's a killer.
jcsunsfan wrote:Preacherpj wrote:
He shot 32% from deep last year and took 225 of those shots, that's a killer.
Three pointers are a legit part of Chriss's game. He needs to take them when open. BTW. Shooting 32% on threes is the same as shooting 48% on twos. Plus, it opens the floor. That is why three point shooting has become such an important part of them NBA. Its just the math.
Preacherpj wrote:jcsunsfan wrote:Preacherpj wrote:
He shot 32% from deep last year and took 225 of those shots, that's a killer.
Three pointers are a legit part of Chriss's game. He needs to take them when open. BTW. Shooting 32% on threes is the same as shooting 48% on twos. Plus, it opens the floor. That is why three point shooting has become such an important part of them NBA. Its just the math.
There's a reason Chriss is often open..... it doesn't space the floor if teams don't respect it.
bwgood77 wrote:Preacherpj wrote:Another thought on Chriss -- I wish he'd drop the 3pt attempts for right now.
I remember listening to Drew Hanlen who is an NBA skills coach talk about really picking a couple specific things to improve on, and when you master those, moving on to other skills. In other words, you can't get good at everything at once. This is something Kobe talks about a lot as well, when he first came into the league, really mastering a few specific things, before attacking others.
I would love Chriss to really just focus on his mid-range game, post up game and ball handling. With his spin move, athleticism and size, he should be a nightmare in the post, but that's not going to happen if he's jacking 3 pointers.
He shot 32% from deep last year and took 225 of those shots, that's a killer.
32% is not THAT much of a killer...it's the equivalent of 48% from 2, which we'd be happy with from Booker I'm guessing. Bigs should overall shoot better than 48%, but with his dunks, is overall % goes up, and then if he can just get from 32% up to 34 or 35 and then maybe up the 37 or so the following year, it's worth working on. Sure he should only work on certain things but we desperately need floor spacing. I'd rather Bender give up the 3s for now and focus on other offensive stuff. He's worse at 3s for now, or was last year. He looked decent in 2 summer games...I think like a combined 6 for 13 or something, but had one really bad one. We REALLY need shooting and defense though. Spreading the floor and defense are the two biggest things we need to work on. We were like 27th in 3 pt shooting last year.
Preacherpj wrote:bwgood77 wrote:Preacherpj wrote:Another thought on Chriss -- I wish he'd drop the 3pt attempts for right now.
I remember listening to Drew Hanlen who is an NBA skills coach talk about really picking a couple specific things to improve on, and when you master those, moving on to other skills. In other words, you can't get good at everything at once. This is something Kobe talks about a lot as well, when he first came into the league, really mastering a few specific things, before attacking others.
I would love Chriss to really just focus on his mid-range game, post up game and ball handling. With his spin move, athleticism and size, he should be a nightmare in the post, but that's not going to happen if he's jacking 3 pointers.
He shot 32% from deep last year and took 225 of those shots, that's a killer.
32% is not THAT much of a killer...it's the equivalent of 48% from 2, which we'd be happy with from Booker I'm guessing. Bigs should overall shoot better than 48%, but with his dunks, is overall % goes up, and then if he can just get from 32% up to 34 or 35 and then maybe up the 37 or so the following year, it's worth working on. Sure he should only work on certain things but we desperately need floor spacing. I'd rather Bender give up the 3s for now and focus on other offensive stuff. He's worse at 3s for now, or was last year. He looked decent in 2 summer games...I think like a combined 6 for 13 or something, but had one really bad one. We REALLY need shooting and defense though. Spreading the floor and defense are the two biggest things we need to work on. We were like 27th in 3 pt shooting last year.
The thing is we don't spread the floor with mediocre shooters taking extra threes. The defense just sags off, Chriss primarily only gets open catch and shoot 3s an still doesn't shoot a high percentage. The types of shots he takes are much different than the types of shots Booker gets so you really can't compare the two.
bwgood77 wrote:Well at least we get the 0-3 Jazz tonight, but Donovan Mitchell has been on fire, and Exum playing pretty well too. We better take this one or summer league will have been a monumental disappointment.
sunsbum wrote:bwgood77 wrote:Well at least we get the 0-3 Jazz tonight, but Donovan Mitchell has been on fire, and Exum playing pretty well too. We better take this one or summer league will have been a monumental disappointment.
Oh stop it. Monumental lol.
It's frustrating to see that the kids don't look as good as we'd like 1 year later, I agree there. I think we've just got a witches stew of....not great things so its kinda magnifying the summer situation.
Lets us review.
DBook took a pretty historic step from season 1 to 2. There's a reason people are calling him the next Kobe, he ain't a normy.
Chirss was told to put on weight over the off season, I doubt he just showed up 2 months later and they were like....oh **** hey veruca salt when do you turn blue? I know Jmac said there are different ways to gain weight but who knows, I feel like our trainers have their **** together so I will trust them with that situation.
More on the Chriss thing, it has to be frustrating hes not able to do things his body is used to doing, he probably feels like his feet are cemented in bricks. His shot is off because of his weight I can definitely see that. As someone mentioned most of his shots are very strong off the back rim. Maybe that is why we are seeing the poor body language.
Uh, mike james is a butthole. Terrible for this team, terrible for Mcd to even think about picking up another combo guard.
Bender is basically a rookie. I remember Dragic had the same euro deer in headlights look for a few years untill he figured things out. He just needs confidence. Could you imagine moving to a different country at 19? I can't even fathom it at my ripe age of 36 !!
On a positive note, I'm seeing things I like out of Chriss/Bender. Chriss is able to take a hell of a lot more contact down low. I've seen him make a few bull like and 1's that he definitely wouldn't have last year. Bender has made some great stong moves to the hole that have really surprised me. Once he gets his shot going it's going to open his lane up that much more. Mike james, is still a turd. Annnnnnd I'm 100% loving the JJ pick!
Whats better than having the next kobe on your team??? having the next pippen and kobe!!! *gulps down the rest of his purple koolaid*