Hornets sign MCW

[bravor]

You already know this is going to happen. Every season we're looking to trade for a backup PG at the deadline except for the Jeremy Lin year. All these decent to good PGs looking for jobs in the NBA and Cho just seem to fail to address the backup PG position every season except that one time.

Except Lin was not just a backup PG for us, he is a pretty good combo guard who fits well to play alongside Kemba. I wont argue Lin is a much better player than MCW, but like what I said before, i don't have any complain about MCW's signing, because it's a low risk and don't forget we have the GREAT Caruso if MCW's project won't work, lol.

You don't have to complain now lol but later you will. It was a bad signing. I can blame Kemba for this a bit too. Maybe if I keep bashing MCW he'll play above his capabilities and prove me wrong.

I'm expecting a sub-40 overall FG% w/ 25% 3pt shooting and the most negative net of any rotation player type of season. You know, on par to his career trajectory.

If that's the stats his opponent is having regulary, without messing up in offense (bad turnovers, head scratching shots..), he can't be a negative net considering next year's bench teammates...
At worst, if the offense stagnates (/read if MCW, Lamb and Monk can't create anything consistently), Batum will help this bench to flourish (but i dont think it will be necessary barring injuries).
In other words, a single player does not make a team (not even lbj..) and MCW won't ruin bench's peformance.

I already said that the main issue for next year is geting a starting 5 that is still effective, with a really bounce back year from all forwards (batum mostly, but not only him). If we really have Frank & Cody from the bench + Lamb and either Monk or MCW + filler (mkg or batum or another), this team is almost bound to finish with the best bench next year.

[FreeMario]

Bust

[bravor]

You forgot the "r"

[MPM]

This thread's funny.

Hypothetical:

If Rondo were willing to sign for MCW money, who would you rather have on the team?

[fatlever]

MCW. rondo would be a distraction. MCW at worst will be a good teammate.

[fatlever]

Bust

look who is back to add nothing to discussion. you've been warned several times before.

[Mystical Apples]

MCW is one of the few UFA backup guards signed to a below market deal. UFA compensation models had MCW between ~ $3 to 5+ million. And looking at his group signed thus far, the average cost per RPM Win is $5.2M.

MCW actual: $2.7M
Model range: to $5+ million
Per RPMW: $4.1M
2-year RPMW: $6.8M

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[catch20two]

This thread's funny.

Hypothetical:

If Rondo were willing to sign for MCW money, who would you rather have on the team?

Neither. But if I had to choose I'd choose Rondo because he's far and away a better player than MCW even on his downslide whereas his distraction as a former all star that think he still got clout will make up for all the negative netting you get with MCW. Ask the Bulls lol (i.e. look at blown playoffs series lead).

[catch20two]

Seems like a lot of interest for a "bum".


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Just teams doing their due diligence. I can show you about 5 or more players that won't be in the NBA this upcoming season that'll have tweets about teams expressing interest.

[316Hornets]

Seems like a lot of interest for a "bum".


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Just teams doing their due diligence. I can show you about 5 or more players that won't be in the NBA this upcoming season that'll have tweets about teams expressing interest.

The guy is young and former ROY. His defense alone is going to earn him a spot on a lot of teams and his potential is a lot higher than some random 'bum' off the street. There is no way he would be heading overseas unless he just felt like he had no future in the NBA and wanted to concentrate on the rest of his career, but there was always going to be a handful of teams looking to add him to the roster this year. That's just my opinion of course, but just look at guys like Michael Beasley. If he can get minutes on teams after all the crap he has went through, why would someone not give MCW a chance?

[catch20two]

Seems like a lot of interest for a "bum".


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Just teams doing their due diligence. I can show you about 5 or more players that won't be in the NBA this upcoming season that'll have tweets about teams expressing interest.

The guy is young and former ROY. His defense alone is going to earn him a spot on a lot of teams and his potential is a lot higher than some random 'bum' off the street. There is no way he would be heading overseas unless he just felt like he had no future in the NBA and wanted to concentrate on the rest of his career, but there was always going to be a handful of teams looking to add him to the roster this year. That's just my opinion of course, but just look at guys like Michael Beasley. If he can get minutes on teams after all the crap he has went through, why would someone not give MCW a chance?

So that's why we're paying him below market value? Lol

[316Hornets]

Just teams doing their due diligence. I can show you about 5 or more players that won't be in the NBA this upcoming season that'll have tweets about teams expressing interest.

The guy is young and former ROY. His defense alone is going to earn him a spot on a lot of teams and his potential is a lot higher than some random 'bum' off the street. There is no way he would be heading overseas unless he just felt like he had no future in the NBA and wanted to concentrate on the rest of his career, but there was always going to be a handful of teams looking to add him to the roster this year. That's just my opinion of course, but just look at guys like Michael Beasley. If he can get minutes on teams after all the crap he has went through, why would someone not give MCW a chance?

So that's why we're paying him below market value? Lol

He signed here because he's going to get minutes and be the next man, if something were to happen to Kemba. Charlotte is stacked at other positions, especially with some shooters, so he could really excel here. He didn't sign at Charlotte because he loves the city. More than likely, he signed here because he knows it's the best fit for him and provides him the best opportunity to secure that big contract next year. Just like JLIN.

[catch20two]

The guy is young and former ROY. His defense alone is going to earn him a spot on a lot of teams and his potential is a lot higher than some random 'bum' off the street. There is no way he would be heading overseas unless he just felt like he had no future in the NBA and wanted to concentrate on the rest of his career, but there was always going to be a handful of teams looking to add him to the roster this year. That's just my opinion of course, but just look at guys like Michael Beasley. If he can get minutes on teams after all the crap he has went through, why would someone not give MCW a chance?

So that's why we're paying him below market value? Lol

He signed here because he's going to get minutes and be the next man, if something were to happen to Kemba. Charlotte is stacked at other positions, especially with some shooters, so he could really excel here. He didn't sign at Charlotte because he loves the city. More than likely, he signed here because he knows it's the best fit for him and provides him the best opportunity to secure that big contract next year. Just like JLIN.

Touché. That makes sense to a extent but wait until he lose his spot in the rotation or get traded by February lol. He's that bad. He's washed out of two straight places (MIL & CHI) that needed his services. The more he plays the more it's revealed that he don't belong in the NBA.

[Snidely FC]

MCW the type of player I've long wanted this team to take more chances on. Size, length, youth, potential. Accretive depth. Long term, small market team gotta win via depth and player dev, not individual star. The real problem remains positional depth negated by Weber.

[bws94]

MCW the type of player I've long wanted this team to take more chances on. Size, length, youth, potential. Accretive depth. Long term, small market team gotta win via depth and player dev, not individual star. The real problem remains positional depth negated by Weber.

Yeah, I agree. Give him a chance and maybe he'll come into his own. And maybe let's not use Lin as a benchmark for combo guard off the bench. MCW is a tall 1, young, can guard 2s and sometimes 3s due to his height, and developing. He's still defining his game.

[GlenRiceARoni]

I think hes downright horrible and most of you will agree after about six games. He has no game.

We really needed an offensive spark plug or at least a guy who could get us into our offense. Mcw is neither.

That ROY was a complete farce. He had huge counting stats because Philly had zero talent around him so they let him ear possessions.

"Get Out the Way, Let the Real F. Ballas thru" - Juvenile

[HornetJail]

I've never been a fan, but we've got to give him a chance. This is by far the best opportunity he's had as a player (in terms of players around him making it easier to play the role of a PG).

But we better hope that Weber (or whoever our third stringer will end up being) is ready to give us real minutes because MCW is far from a sure thing.

[Snidely FC]

Didn't know MCW had surgery for a torn labrum as recently as 2016 until i read this article about Isaiah Thomas's problem http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20595342/nba-cleveland-cavaliers-guard-isaiah-thomas-faces-uncertain-return-potentially-career-ending-hip-injury:

Though there is no comprehensive study on NBA players, guards have not fared well in the small pool of patients. Flynn is one example, but Michael Carter-Williams is another. The former Rookie of the Year underwent surgery to repair a torn labrum in his left hip in March 2016 and has struggled to recapture his pre-injury level of play. In Chicago last season, Carter-Williams averaged 6.6 points per game on 36.6 percent shooting and didn't receive a contract extension. (He signed a one-year, $2.7 million deal with the Charlotte Hornets this offseason.)

[James Gatz]

Didn't know MCW had surgery for a torn labrum as recently as 2016 until i read this article about Isaiah Thomas's problem http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20595342/nba-cleveland-cavaliers-guard-isaiah-thomas-faces-uncertain-return-potentially-career-ending-hip-injury:

Though there is no comprehensive study on NBA players, guards have not fared well in the small pool of patients. Flynn is one example, but Michael Carter-Williams is another. The former Rookie of the Year underwent surgery to repair a torn labrum in his left hip in March 2016 and has struggled to recapture his pre-injury level of play. In Chicago last season, Carter-Williams averaged 6.6 points per game on 36.6 percent shooting and didn't receive a contract extension. (He signed a one-year, $2.7 million deal with the Charlotte Hornets this offseason.)

Had the same thought when I read it. Doesn't bode well for the upcoming season. I smell another trade for a back up PG at the deadline looming.

[catch20two]

It's inevitable with MCW on the roster. He hasn't shown the ability to be a net positive player nor has he shown the ability to stay healthy in his career. The moment we signed him I said that we'll be looking for another backup PG by midseason if not sooner. Hopefully Monk and Lamb along with the rest of the above solid bench players can mask just how bad of a player MCW is.