Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1

bravor · Post #1321 » by **bravor** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 8:46 pm

I kinda agree. As scary as he is physically (not want to be rude here, but...), Crowder does not really impress me for his defense except for being versatile (which means he can switch on most wing players).
Bradley on the other hand could have been the perfect fit for Kemba (and Monk..). He has size, defense, court vision.. Hopefully he wont fit with the Pistons and become available in 2018...

LofJ · Post #1322 » by **LofJ** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:33 pm

Looking ahead we need to clear cap for next off-season. So I came up with this trade with us, Milwaukee, Utah, and Portland.

CHA in Parker, Johnson, Davis
CHA out Williams, Lamb, 2018 1st

MKE in McCollum, Diaw, Lamb
MKE out Monroe, Parker, Teletovic

UTA in Williams, Teletovic
UTA out Johnson, Diaw

POR in Monroe, CHA 2018 1st
POR out McCollum, Davis

Braggins · Post #1323 » by **Braggins** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:48 pm

LofJ wrote:Looking ahead we need to clear cap for next off-season. So I came up with this trade with us, Milwaukee, Utah, and Portland.

We're so far over the cap that we can't really create meaningful cap space next offseason unless we trade Batum or Howard, and that would just get us barely under. We'd basically need to gut our team. I think we're going to have to wait until 2019 and go all in on cap space. The downside is that we wouldn't be able to offer Kemba an early extension, which could cost us a lot of money down the road, but once he signs his next contract any cap space we could have had will be gone. We're at just under 74 million for 2019/2020. Trading Marvs 15 mil expiring would make us a major player.

HornetJail · Post #1324 » by **HornetJail** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:31 pm

LofJ wrote:Looking ahead we need to clear cap for next off-season. So I came up with this trade with us, Milwaukee, Utah, and Portland.

CHA in Parker, Johnson, Davis
CHA out Williams, Lamb, 2018 1st

MKE in McCollum, Diaw, Lamb
MKE out Monroe, Parker, Teletovic

UTA in Williams, Teletovic
UTA out Johnson, Diaw

POR in Monroe, CHA 2018 1st
POR out McCollum, Davis

do we even have cap space after this deal? Remember to add Jabari's QO.

I think we can forget about cap space until 2019.

LofJ · Post #1325 » by **LofJ** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:52 pm

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
LofJ wrote:Looking ahead we need to clear cap for next off-season. So I came up with this trade with us, Milwaukee, Utah, and Portland.

CHA in Parker, Johnson, Davis
CHA out Williams, Lamb, 2018 1st

MKE in McCollum, Diaw, Lamb
MKE out Monroe, Parker, Teletovic

UTA in Williams, Teletovic
UTA out Johnson, Diaw

POR in Monroe, CHA 2018 1st
POR out McCollum, Davis

do we even have cap space after this deal? Remember to add Jabari's QO.

I think we can forget about cap space until 2019.

We'd have enough space to extend Parker to around 15 million and to sign a backup PG to the MLE while being right around the luxury tax.

HornetJail · Post #1326 » by **HornetJail** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:28 am

LofJ wrote:Parker to around 15 million

I can't decide whether this is wishful thinking or a huge risk

LofJ · Post #1327 » by **LofJ** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:38 am

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
LofJ wrote:Parker to around 15 million

I can't decide whether this is wishful thinking or a huge risk

Same here, I feel like we need to take a risk though if we want to separate ourselves.

BuzzCity · Post #1328 » by **BuzzCity** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:47 am

LofJ wrote:
MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
LofJ wrote:Looking ahead we need to clear cap for next off-season. So I came up with this trade with us, Milwaukee, Utah, and Portland.

CHA in Parker, Johnson, Davis
CHA out Williams, Lamb, 2018 1st

MKE in McCollum, Diaw, Lamb
MKE out Monroe, Parker, Teletovic

UTA in Williams, Teletovic
UTA out Johnson, Diaw

POR in Monroe, CHA 2018 1st
POR out McCollum, Davis

do we even have cap space after this deal? Remember to add Jabari's QO.

I think we can forget about cap space until 2019.

We'd have enough space to extend Parker to around 15 million and to sign a backup PG to the MLE while being right around the luxury tax.

Can't see a scenario where Portland would ever trade McCollum for a bum Monroe and a 1st round pick somewhere outside the lottery

LofJ · Post #1329 » by **LofJ** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:51 am

BuzzCity wrote:
LofJ wrote:
MotorKeepsGoing wrote:do we even have cap space after this deal? Remember to add Jabari's QO.

I think we can forget about cap space until 2019.

We'd have enough space to extend Parker to around 15 million and to sign a backup PG to the MLE while being right around the luxury tax.

Can't see a scenario where Portland would ever trade McCollum for a bum Monroe and a 1st round pick somewhere outside the lottery

Monroe isn't a bum, he's a useful player. And more importantly this trade gets them out of the luxury tax hell they signed themselves into last summer.

SeanBobcats · Post #1330 » by **SeanBobcats** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:18 am

Only scenarios where Portland gets rid of McCollum for that low of a haul is if they have another wing break out into a star or he declines/gets hurt. Even then this trade still looks like highway robbery

Snidely FC · Post #1331 » by **Snidely FC** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:46 pm

Lamb + Weber to MIL for Dellavedova

Post #1332 » by **Diop** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:44 pm

Snidely FC wrote:Lamb + Weber to MIL for Dellavedova

you know I'm in. Smart passer, good in the pick n roll.

Bucks fans love this trade.

Kembastockton · Post #1333 » by **Kembastockton** » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:55 pm

SeanBobcats wrote:Only scenarios where Portland gets rid of McCollum for that low of a haul is if they have another wing break out into a star or he declines/gets hurt. Even then this trade still looks like highway robbery

Yep. McCollum is one of the best young two's in the league. I seriously doubt trading him is the way they would like to trim salary.

LofJ · Post #1334 » by **LofJ** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:00 pm

The Knicks are going to try again to get Carmelo to expand the list of teams he's willing to be traded to. Should we have any interest in a Carmelo for Williams/Lamb trade?

BeesWax · Post #1335 » by **BeesWax** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:19 pm

I think you have to consider it since the team looks to be going all in on this coming season and making a push for the second round.

Kembastockton · Post #1336 » by **Kembastockton** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:34 pm

No, the team we have now should have little problem with offense. Absolutely no reason to bring in a ball stopper like Melo.

LofJ · Post #1337 » by **LofJ** » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:50 pm

MountBiyombo wrote:No, the team we have now should have little problem with offense. Absolutely no reason to bring in a ball stopper like Melo.

If Clifford is creative with his rotations and has prominent roles for Kaminsky, Lamb, and Monk we should be fine. If he's rigid though and puts too much scoring pressure on Kemba I think we could struggle on that end.

HornetJail · Post #1338 » by **HornetJail** » Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:42 am

LofJ wrote:The Knicks are going to try again to get Carmelo to expand the list of teams he's willing to be traded to. Should we have any interest in a Carmelo for Williams/Lamb trade?

I would definitely do it.

Howard/Melo/MKG/Batum/Kemba is an absolutely terrific starting five, and Zeller/Frank/Graham or Bacon/Monk/MCW would be a pretty nice bench unit as well.

I'd be even happier to see Melo spending a good chunk of time with the second unit just going to town on opposing team's benches.

Kembastockton · Post #1339 » by **Kembastockton** » Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:36 pm

There is absolutely no way two divas like Dwight and Melo coexist. And the thought that anyone believes Melo would agree to go to come off the bench is surprising.

HornetJail · Post #1340 » by **HornetJail** » Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:14 pm

MountBiyombo wrote:There is absolutely no way two divas like Dwight and Melo coexist. And the thought that anyone believes Melo would agree to go to come off the bench is surprising.

I didn't say come off the bench. He can start, but I would love to see him getting significant burn with the bench unit