Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion 3: #TheTimeline

[AtheJ415]

#Aytonin18

I'm seeing these type of posts more and more, and I feel lots of people will be dissapointed come next year (and draft time).

We would need to be in top4 to draft Ayton or Bamba. I have at least 4 reasons why we won't be there:
Chicago
Indiana
Atlanta
Brooklyn
And thats being "optimistic" for you guys. I think there will be another 2-3 teams who will be worse than us (or it will be decided by 1-2 games) between pick 5 and 10. Lakers and Sacramento will be on our level, maybe a bit worse if Bledsoe plays the whole year. New York will likely blow it up so they could be as bad as the above 4 teams in the east. If we make any progress from last year - which should be the case, then we are not getting a top 4-5 pick.

We are in the West. They are in the super easy East, so it's not that out of the question. The key is trading Bledsoe. If we do that we drop a lot more games imo.

Also, Brooklyn is projected to be the 7th worst team or so by Vegas IIRC.

[Bogyo]

#Aytonin18

I'm seeing these type of posts more and more, and I feel lots of people will be dissapointed come next year (and draft time).

We would need to be in top4 to draft Ayton or Bamba. I have at least 4 reasons why we won't be there:
Chicago
Indiana
Atlanta
Brooklyn
And thats being "optimistic" for you guys. I think there will be another 2-3 teams who will be worse than us (or it will be decided by 1-2 games) between pick 5 and 10. Lakers and Sacramento will be on our level, maybe a bit worse if Bledsoe plays the whole year. New York will likely blow it up so they could be as bad as the above 4 teams in the east. If we make any progress from last year - which should be the case, then we are not getting a top 4-5 pick.

We are in the West. They are in the super easy East, so it's not that out of the question. The key is trading Bledsoe. If we do that we drop a lot more games imo.

Also, Brooklyn is projected to be the 7th worst team or so by Vegas IIRC.

Well, if we trade Bled then all bets are off, we may be bottom 3 again. With that said I'd go pretty much all in for a Porzingis trade with him. Ntilinka+Porzingis for Bled, Chriss, and our picks this year (or something like this). We'll see what Ulis got this year, and we can develop Ntilinka a bit as well. Sign a PG next year or draft one with the Miami pick and we're good for the next 5-8 years with that core.

If we do nothing, from now on, then concentrate on winning some games, and make a run at Boogie in next summer. It could be huge if we could sign him outright without losing anybody for a cpl years. Ofcourse a sign and trade could also work as the Pels hands would be tied if he decided to play here, we could have him for cheap, while stearing clear from logjam/playing time pouting/ having to resign all our young guys problems... I could see a Warren/Chriss/Knight for a resigned Boogie deal going down. That's also a good core for the next 5-8 years with the 2 picks coming in next year.

[8on]

who says no
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycyvvj2v

Portland - salary cap relief
Houston - Melo
Knicks - get really bad with a mentor for Frank and two projects that could blossom into Porzingis-level talents
Suns - we get really bad too, but we get Porzingis!

I just don't think Porzingis can't be had. sure, we take back Noah and Crabbe, but I'm guessing there isn't a Suns fan out there who wouldn't do this deal.

[thamadkant]

Phil was fired because of many things but one factor is he entertained Porzingis trades when Porzingis is clearly a player Knicks should build around.

He isn't being traded unless it's for another franchise changing player or package.

[thamadkant]

I think Jazz could use a player like Bledsoe. They lost Hayward who provided isolation scoring.


They got Rubio with Hayward in mind... But now they may want to move Rubio for a player like Bledsoe because they need scoring in a big way.


I would still trade for Rubio even if some here wouldn't because he simply rather feed players than take shots himself. And he plays defense.

Suns have many players who can score 15 points and over so a pass first PG would fit that.

But of course I would still prefer Suns use Jackson and Booker at the back court SINCE it will take a unconventional approach to make an impact these days of you have elite perimeter scoring or all star big men.

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[Bogyo]

who says no
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycyvvj2v

Portland - salary cap relief
Houston - Melo
Knicks - get really bad with a mentor for Frank and two projects that could blossom into Porzingis-level talents
Suns - we get really bad too, but we get Porzingis!

I just don't think Porzingis can't be had. sure, we take back Noah and Crabbe, but I'm guessing there isn't a Suns fan out there who wouldn't do this deal.

I'd think about it... I'd love to get the Zinger, but thats probably 2 of the 5 worst contracts in the league - for 3 more years, while losing Bender, Chriss and Bled... Heck, we'd be in trouble resigning our own guys after this. Warren, Booker, Porzingis are due extensions while these contracts are on the books (with Knight as well). Tough pill to swallow

[JJ13]

who says no
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycyvvj2v

Portland - salary cap relief
Houston - Melo
Knicks - get really bad with a mentor for Frank and two projects that could blossom into Porzingis-level talents
Suns - we get really bad too, but we get Porzingis!

I just don't think Porzingis can't be had. sure, we take back Noah and Crabbe, but I'm guessing there isn't a Suns fan out there who wouldn't do this deal.

This is interesting. Agree NY won't trade Zinger but that package would be tempting for them along with picks. Problem for Suns is does having BOTH Crabbe and Noah contracts handicap our ability to extend/sign FA in next 1-2 years.

[NTB]

who says no
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycyvvj2v

Portland - salary cap relief
Houston - Melo
Knicks - get really bad with a mentor for Frank and two projects that could blossom into Porzingis-level talents
Suns - we get really bad too, but we get Porzingis!

I just don't think Porzingis can't be had. sure, we take back Noah and Crabbe, but I'm guessing there isn't a Suns fan out there who wouldn't do this deal.

This is interesting. Agree NY won't trade Zinger but that package would be tempting for them along with picks. Problem for Suns is does having BOTH Crabbe and Noah contracts handicap our ability to extend/sign FA in next 1-2 years.

You should change your username to JJ99 or JJ11

[Dambo]

I think Reggie just needs a different coach to become a star.

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[Frank Lee]

Bledsoe is the only chance we have about signing Boogie. He will have the same offers league wide as to what we can give. Thus, we keep Bled and enter the Boogie sweepstakes.... more drama for next year. But no way Boogie comes here without joining his lil buddy. The Simmons interest is intriguing. To me, it says there is a Warren deal floating around out there. How many wings do we need ???

And Apparently Chandler has given the green light for certain trades. Cant imagine talk with SA happened w/o his knowledge ... he had to be in the loop. What other destination(s) has he approved?

I just dont know. If McDo goes throughout the next couple of months with no significant trade, I will be surprised.... but then again... I wont be when later we learn of all the trade attempts that didn't go down.

As is....onward we go to a 30 win season.

[8on]

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You know what? We could be talking with New York independently of the Melo trade, but I don't think so. If there are four teams in the Melo trade, and we're talking to New York, there's a good chance we're one of the four. Very interesting stuff. I have a feeling something materializes soon.

[WeekapaugGroove]

None of this makes sense

taking on salary for mediocre picks, hopeful young talent....dealing Bledoe to NY.... interest in Simmons...

I dont get it. Does McDo have a fever ? IS he just trying to dump some salary and thus involved as a peripheral team? Or is he actually trying to add legit talent ??

Well trading Chandler makes perfect sense; finding a team willing to take him is the hard part. You know what would have made the most sense... not signing him in the first place.... but I digress and need to stop beating that dead horse.

I can see the appeal in Simmons because he's only 27 and could be part of the future.

As far as taking a bad salary to get an asset. That makes more sense than just not using the space and getting nothing.

I would guess they are exploring all avenues. If a guy who can be part of the future is available then be opportunistic and get him if not then go other directions.

As far as Bledsoe; I'm sure they are taking calls but I wouldn't bet any deal is imminent.

[King4Day]

who says no
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycyvvj2v

Portland - salary cap relief
Houston - Melo
Knicks - get really bad with a mentor for Frank and two projects that could blossom into Porzingis-level talents
Suns - we get really bad too, but we get Porzingis!

I just don't think Porzingis can't be had. sure, we take back Noah and Crabbe, but I'm guessing there isn't a Suns fan out there who wouldn't do this deal.

If we added a future pick or 2, NY might be interested.
Houston actually may not do it since they need Ariza's D

[WeekapaugGroove]

NY is not trading Porzingis... that ship sailed with the zenmaster leaving town.

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[Waylay13]

who says no
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycyvvj2v

Portland - salary cap relief
Houston - Melo
Knicks - get really bad with a mentor for Frank and two projects that could blossom into Porzingis-level talents
Suns - we get really bad too, but we get Porzingis!

I just don't think Porzingis can't be had. sure, we take back Noah and Crabbe, but I'm guessing there isn't a Suns fan out there who wouldn't do this deal.

If we added a future pick or 2, NY might be interested.
Houston actually may not do it since they need Ariza's D

I dont like the deal for the amount of trash salaries that the Suns take back in the first place; you think added any draft pick or two is going to make this a better deal you can forget it.

[Mulhollanddrive]

What's the big deal about Jonathan Simmons all his stats look below average.

[NTB]

What's the big deal about Jonathan Simmons all his stats look below average.

Played for Spurs

[Revived]

Simmons doesn't make sense with the Suns already having 4 forwards that need playing time in Warren, Bender, Jackson and Chriss.