ATL - Kyrie Dealt to Boston for IT, Crowder, Nets pick, etc Pg 87

[stellation]

PP nailed it. Telly declined a lot because Telly eat a lot. He was fat last season for what he had been.

Free Buffet at the Arts?

I actually wasn't even going for the out of shape angle with that comment. More along the lines that he's a useless basketball player on the defensive end and on offense he's got one skill. That said, your comment is 100% spot on. He certainly could use some slimming down and muscle tone.

I'm 100% reading this as "middle aged man in glass house does not want to throw stones at dude carrying a little extra weight as he gets older".

[emunney]

I don't think he's useless defensively. He puts up resistance, he fights for position. He's not a bad team defender. He is COMICALLY bad laterally. But he knows what his job is, he always tags the roll man and sprints to the corner, and most importantly, he draws a lot of attention on offense off the ball, which is exactly what we need and exactly why it's so perplexing that he plays so little with Giannis.

[Diggr14]

PP nailed it. Telly declined a lot because Telly eat a lot. He was fat last season for what he had been.

Free Buffet at the Arts?

I actually wasn't even going for the out of shape angle with that comment. More along the lines that he's a useless basketball player on the defensive end and on offense he's got one skill. That said, your comment is 100% spot on. He certainly could use some slimming down and muscle tone.

I'm 100% reading this as "middle aged man in glass house does not want to throw stones at dude carrying a little extra weight as he gets older".

I could use the treadmill too. But I’m not a professional athlete that just signed a 30M dollar contract. So, glass house or not.. i got some bricks and I’m tossing them at that glass house when athletes that come to my team out of shape after getting paid by them.

[Diggr14]

I don't think he's useless defensively. He puts up resistance, he fights for position. He's not a bad team defender. He is COMICALLY bad laterally. But he knows what his job is, he always tags the roll man and sprints to the corner, and most importantly, he draws a lot of attention on offense off the ball, which is exactly what we need and exactly why it's so perplexing that he plays so little with Giannis.

Jason Kidd :wave

[blazza18]

Giannis had a 58.8 eFG%, 64TS% with Mirza on the court. 53 eFG%, 58.5TS% with Mirza off the court.

Sure he probably played against bench players more in that comparisons but there is not doubt Teletovic made our best player better when on the court.

[FlagsFlyForever]

That's why all of our specific player/scheme conversation and debate on here is ultimately part of that "Nihilist Bucks" guy on twitter.

You can't have a front office acquire a specific guy when the coach doesn't utilize him. 18 chefs in the kitchen. No cohesive team philosophy and vision.

These excuses trying to pass blame onto Kidd or somebody else for Mirza's poor season don't fly. There is only one person to blame for Mirza's terrible season. The guy who couldn't hit his shots.


Percent of Mirza's three point attempts that were "wide open" (closest defender 6+ feet away):
Phoenix: 22.2%
Milwaukee: 26.7%

Mirza's three point percentage on "wide open" threes:
Phoenix: 45.1%
Milwaukee: 33.3%

Where did you get your data? I got this from below for last season.

http://stats.nba.com/players/shots-closest-defender/#!?Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&CloseDefDistRange=6%2B%20Feet%20-%20Wide%20Open&TeamID=1610612749&sort=FG3A_FREQUENCY&dir=1

I have 19.4% wide open on 33.3% shooting last season. Same % on wide open shots as Giannis, lol. On open shots he took them 37.2% of the time at a 37.4% clip which was somewhat better but not what you'd expect from a gunner.

Both of our numbers are accurate. I was only looking at three point shots, you're looking at overall shots. Now compare the numbers you pulled with the same stats for Mirza in Phoenix.

[Triple 7]

Spurs renounced Jonathon Simmons...

[Nowak008]

I don't think he's useless defensively. He puts up resistance, he fights for position. He's not a bad team defender. He is COMICALLY bad laterally. But he knows what his job is, he always tags the roll man and sprints to the corner, and most importantly, he draws a lot of attention on offense off the ball, which is exactly what we need and exactly why it's so perplexing that he plays so little with Giannis.

Might have to do with they are both power forwards. #positionsstillmatter

[FlagsFlyForever]

Woj said Golden State rejected a Pacers trade proposal of Paul George for Klay.

[RandyBreuer]

Wisely so, already the best team and have two titles with Clay who is younger.

[blazza18]

Wish I knew if we showed any interest.

[BroncoBuck]

Udoh has looked like a much better player in Europe. Glad to see him back in the league, he was a really great guy. His book club will go over real well in Utah.

[BroncoBuck]

Would be a great time to stretch Hawes and give Simmons the MLE if he is willing to take it.

[Badgerlander]

Take a few minutes and ask yourself how Mirza can score at the same rate with such drastically inferior percentages and almost no fta's. Then ask yourself if that closes the gap between him and Anderson or makes it wider.

Uhm BR does all the math for you with no guessing needed and breaks it down buy 100 possessions or per36 and the difference is negligible

You completely missed the point. Once again, how does a guy like Mirza manage to have only 2-3 fewer points per 36 or per 100 possessions with significantly inferior percentages across the board and about 40% fewer free throw attempts? You say it as though it's a good thing, but it's not at all. In fact, it's one of the most damning stats about him.

Spoiler:

He's a **** chucker of epic proportions. Makes Monta Ellis look like Nash. When the Bucks signed him, he literally had the highest rate of 3pa's per minute of playing time in NBA history. Higher than Allen, Miller, or Curry. He chucks up everything he touches no matter what the situation and disrupts the flow of the offense like few other players can. And as a result, he hits negligibly more 3's per 100 possessions despite over 2 extra attempts compared to Anderson, and there's your similar production. No thanks.

Really have no idea what you are trying to say here but my point was even though Anderson has twice the salary he's only about 10 maybe 20% better. As I pointed out other teams have demanded two 1st round picks to take on his contract so twice as hard to move as say moving Henson and moving Henson alone would open up the MLE and BAE for us. Anderson would struggle just as much as Mirza in our ball swing offense.

[Bernman]

PP nailed it. Telly declined a lot because Telly eat a lot. He was fat last season for what he had been.

Free Buffet at the Arts?

I actually wasn't even going for the out of shape angle with that comment. More along the lines that he's a useless basketball player on the defensive end and on offense he's got one skill. That said, your comment is 100% spot on. He certainly could use some slimming down and muscle tone.

This is the correct analysis. Unless he had an eating problem 2 of his 3 seasons with Brooklyn, adversely impacting his shooting, and his whole career defensively and on the boards; he's established as an erratic shooter who can't defend or rebound. We caught him in one of his bad shooting years. Maybe next year it's one of his good shooting ones. We can hope. But he still can't defend or rebound. So what does that leave us anyway? A guy with little upside and high downside due to his contract he got due to who his agent was.

[drew881]

Would be a great time to stretch Hawes and give Simmons the MLE if he is willing to take it.

They'll want Monroe. Too bad they wouldn't want Henson. Otherwise, I'd say get 'er done.

[tski1972]

Simmons to Orlando on 3 year deal.

[HurricaneKid]

Simmons to Orlando on 3 year deal.

Any details? I see it is 3 years but have been really curious what he was going to end up with. He paid $150 to enter a tryout for a DLeague team and I hope he got a nice deal. Has 4 little girls and has never made NBA money.

[MickeyDavis]

Saw Tele twice this summer at Cheesecake Factory at Bayshore.

[Badgerlander]

Simmons to Orlando on 3 year deal.

Any details? I see it is 3 years but have been really curious what he was going to end up with. He paid $150 to enter a tryout for a DLeague team and I hope he got a nice deal. Has 4 little girls and has never made NBA money.

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