The MeloPause Trade Thread

[Knicks_Fan2]

What's the big deal if he isn't traded? I don't get why people are freaking out.

for me its the development aspect. we have a some really decent youngs that arent going to get the burn they need to progress. thats kinda impossible when melo's iso''n game after game after game. Willy, Ntillheplays, Dotson, and of course KP lose one more season of development. not smart.

now with THJ too, nobody else is touching the ball. we ill have a two man offense, and a 3 man defense.

Melo would be better off (and we would too) elsewhere but you are really overestimating how much he isos. That is, in the right offense (not the pseudo triangle) I think our youngins can develop even if he's on the team.

[Battery]

so you want to take Andersan & Leonard to combine them to Noah?
So 3 horrible big men while we're invested in KP & Willy.
Contracts tied into 6 big men. Sounds like fun

Yeah because 2 and 3 unprotected first round picks in addition to our own pick gives us flexibility and power. Anderson can play multiple positions, Leonard is the 15th man and Noah will be on injured reserve all year. Then in years 2 to 3 years these contracts become easier to move or buyout. This is a long-term strategy.

The people in here are not patient enough to wait on line at the DMV. They wouldn't know what to do with themselves when presented with a decent rebuilding plan.

They cannot comprehend that the crappy players are irrelevant and pose no deterrence to building around a young core. It is all about gaining power and flexibility through the draft which puts us in control to get the types of players to fill in the missing pieces. Relying on cap space and free agency is not relevant until we establish a solid foundation of youth. I've been gone for 10 years but it seems like this new crop of fans are no different than the old crop of short-term I want it now fans. Nothing has changed.

[nykfan42]

What's the big deal if he isn't traded? I don't get why people are freaking out.

The guy in your avatar isn't going to have much growth as a player until he's allowed to be the primary option on offense.

Agreed. I'm just saying the proposals sucked. They have to do what's best for the team and KP. Taking on crappy contracts isn't one of them.

[Da_Mane_Man]

melopause

yo, you guys really wanna keep melon? i don't. i sure don't. f*ck outta here.

[taj2133]

if melo is here when the season start just come to work and respect his bosses same with knick management don't bench him have a clean slate with him and see where it goes from there.

[duetta]

What's the big deal if he isn't traded? I don't get why people are freaking out.

The guy in your avatar isn't going to have much growth as a player until he's allowed to be the primary option on offense.

KP didn't have the skill level to be a first option last season. We can hope that he comes back this season with more arrows in his quiver - but as of last season, he would have been a disaster as a first option.

He needs to get better across the board.

Aaron Judge spent his offseason analyzing the swings of multiple great hitters, and then breaking down his own swing so that he has the barrel of the bat making contact as much as possible.

Players make themselves into superstars in the offseason. If KP comes back having put in the quality of work that Judge did, and Anthony is still around, we're going to win games next season.

[MP4LIFE]

What's the big deal if he isn't traded? I don't get why people are freaking out.

The guy in your avatar isn't going to have much growth as a player until he's allowed to be the primary option on offense.

KP didn't have the skill level to be a first option last season. We can hope that he comes back this season with more arrows in his quiver - but as of last season, he would have been a disaster as a first option.

He needs to get better across the board.

Aaron Judge spent his offseason analyzing the swings of multiple great hitters, and then breaking down his own swing so that he has the barrel of the bat making contact as much as possible.

Players make themselves into superstars in the offseason. If KP comes back having putting in the quality of work that Judge did, and Anthony is still around, we're going to win games next season.

We need to continue rebuilding, not trying to 'win games' to make some useless 8th seed with Melo.

[vallen]

What's the big deal if he isn't traded? I don't get why people are freaking out.

for me its the development aspect. we have a some really decent youngs that arent going to get the burn they need to progress. thats kinda impossible when melo's iso''n game after game after game. Willy, Ntillheplays, Dotson, and of course KP lose one more season of development. not smart.

now with THJ too, nobody else is touching the ball. we ill have a two man offense, and a 3 man defense.

Melo would be better off (and we would too) elsewhere but you are really overestimating how much he isos. That is, in the right offense (not the pseudo triangle) I think our youngins can develop even if he's on the team.

melos only plays one offense. he never played triangle or the ssol. that was and always has been the problem. he tolerated kidd calling plays, without anyone on the court to shake him off, he will always run his own offense.

[Wolfgang630]

What's the big deal if he isn't traded? I don't get why people are freaking out.

for me its the development aspect. we have a some really decent youngs that arent going to get the burn they need to progress. thats kinda impossible when melo's iso''n game after game after game. Willy, Ntillheplays, Dotson, and of course KP lose one more season of development. not smart.

now with THJ too, nobody else is touching the ball. we ill have a two man offense, and a 3 man defense.

Melo would be better off (and we would too) elsewhere but you are really overestimating how much he isos. That is, in the right offense (not the pseudo triangle) I think our youngins can develop even if he's on the team.

How is it good when Melo has to take 15-20 shots a game and doesn't play defense? Can we please move **** forward with our franchise already. I'm just tired of this **** organization. I can't stand it. Melo won't come off the bench. We just payed 18 million a year for THJ. What's he going to do stand in the corner and take 5 shots a game?

[nykfan42]

What's the big deal if he isn't traded? I don't get why people are freaking out.

for me its the development aspect. we have a some really decent youngs that arent going to get the burn they need to progress. thats kinda impossible when melo's iso''n game after game after game. Willy, Ntillheplays, Dotson, and of course KP lose one more season of development. not smart.

now with THJ too, nobody else is touching the ball. we ill have a two man offense, and a 3 man defense.

Melo would be better off (and we would too) elsewhere but you are really overestimating how much he isos. That is, in the right offense (not the pseudo triangle) I think our youngins can develop even if he's on the team.

I hate when people bring up the iso crap. It's said too much. Does he do it? Yes. Does he do it as much people think? No. He doesn't do it that much. Also, if we had a strong minded PG there would be little isoing going on and he'd be taking high percentage shots in catch and shoot situations.

[Crunchknicks1]

Look if melo here then fine. We got a top 4 pick and top 8 pick with him don't hurt our tank. What I would do is try to win. First thing that do is bring free agents back. 2 nd the east is weak go hard now why you can we have three young guys and hardaway. And Dotson and baker build around them get vets that fit. Or trade melo for trash you pick. Prozingis will be happy to keep melo hardaway would be happy. Etc. If you keep him tho he needs to play power and we need to trade lee for a real point that can run horn system. If you can trade lee and turn him into Bledsoe hardway Melo Prozingis wille. Melo back up 4 etc. that in. The east would work and bring people back wanting to play for us. Get melo to chill if he leave we would have 30 million in cap room with a good shot at a free agent now that we cleared the air.

[Knicks_Fan2]

for me its the development aspect. we have a some really decent youngs that arent going to get the burn they need to progress. thats kinda impossible when melo's iso''n game after game after game. Willy, Ntillheplays, Dotson, and of course KP lose one more season of development. not smart.

now with THJ too, nobody else is touching the ball. we ill have a two man offense, and a 3 man defense.

Melo would be better off (and we would too) elsewhere but you are really overestimating how much he isos. That is, in the right offense (not the pseudo triangle) I think our youngins can develop even if he's on the team.

How is it good when Melo has to take 15-20 shots a game and doesn't play defense? Can we please move **** forward with our franchise already. I'm just tired of this **** organization. I can't stand it. Melo won't come off the bench. We just payed 18 million a year for THJ. What's he going to do stand in the corner and take 5 shots a game?

Ok cool let's trade him for Ryan Anderson's horrible deal and be done with it, right? Is that what you want?

[TruthBeTold]

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If the Knicks do keep Melo, then I might truly be done supporting the Knicks organization for a while. NO MSG Channel for a while would save me a lot of money.

What happened to getting younger and more athletic? The Knicks cannot win a championship with Melo and most fans just want him gone, including myself. And if Melo does really want to come back, then it's just more proof that Melo truly isn't about winning like Lebron. The best chance the Knicks have to win a championship is to draft young players like Denis Smith Jr. in future NBA drafts.

MELO, if you really want to come back to the Knicks, then you deserve whatever treatment you get from Knicks management and the fans. While you were out there busting your ass trying to get better for the up coming NBA season, Knicks management was caught on video laughing at you... like your work ethic is a JOKE. Phil Jackson was just the mouth, but the body was made up of a lot more people. Mills probably just want you back to extend the life of his Job. They don't want you back because they like you. Obviously, the biggest reason why the Knicks want you back Melo is because they are unsatisfied with your trade return value. Moreover, they might still try to trade you at the trading deadline.

How does an employee with a history of incompetent work performance gets a promotion to the highest position in his field of work? Simple, if his boss name is James Dolan.

Would you rather him gone if it requires us taking on bad contracts just for him not to be here? That seems shortsighted.

Melo may no longer be in his prime, but he is still and elite player in the NBA. If all the Knicks can get back for Melo is bad contracts which I refuse to believe, then it just best to buy him out. I know most of you will disagree, but the time to go in a different direction with KP IS NOW!!!

[Tron Carter]

fans cry incompetency but when this team finally shows some restraint in standing their ground and not giving up an asset for garbage ya'll still find reasons to bitch. unreal.

[Juggynaut]

I swear some of u sound like u would be willing to give up picks just to deal Melo away.

[MP4LIFE]

#StayMe7o

[vallen]

for me its the development aspect. we have a some really decent youngs that arent going to get the burn they need to progress. thats kinda impossible when melo's iso''n game after game after game. Willy, Ntillheplays, Dotson, and of course KP lose one more season of development. not smart.

now with THJ too, nobody else is touching the ball. we ill have a two man offense, and a 3 man defense.

Melo would be better off (and we would too) elsewhere but you are really overestimating how much he isos. That is, in the right offense (not the pseudo triangle) I think our youngins can develop even if he's on the team.

I hate when people bring up the iso crap. It's said too much. Does he do it? Yes. Does he do it as much people think? No. He doesn't do it that much. Also, if we had a strong minded PG there would be little isoing going on and he'd be taking high percentage shots in catch and shoot situations.

whether hes iso or jacking up 3's he was the main scorer on the team, and taking the majority of the shots. thats not what we need right now. we need those touches to develop the youngs, and get them experience, while we get a top 3 pick. the ball needs to go around, and melo just needs to go.

[Knicks_Fan2]

Jesus relax. Front office is playing this the right way. Carmelo clearly thinks he's going to Houston and has likely mentally moved on from the Knicks. This is when you pull back, he likely doesn't want to come back, and Houston may increase it's offer. What's the worst that can happen?

[Knick4Real]

LOL wow, some of you posters are hilarious.

You're crying that the front office didn't pull the trigger on a Melo trade (yet), but you have NO IDEA about the parameters of any deal or who/what might have been involved. LOL I swear, some of you could NEVER be a Real GM of ANY team.

Please remember, the front office is not operating for your entertainment or approval. This is real life, not fantasy basketball. For them to pause this deal means 1 of 3 things:

1.) The new GM wants to review all the details of every proposal in order to proceed with what's in the BEST possible interest of the franchise.

2.) The proposed deals were awful, needed to be reworked and revisited, and are being fixed as we speak -- again for what's in the BEST possible interest of the franchise.

3.) The new GM is putting teams on notice that there's a new sheriff in town and that if Houston or Cleveland wants our franchise player, THEY are going to have to pay for it, not the other way around.

So, somebody please explain to me why ANY of this is bad for the KNICKS??? Or is it just bad for your entertainment right now, because the front office is not playing their hand in public and you're not seeing what YOU want to see when YOU want to see it???

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[taj2133]

dolan doesn't want to buy him out to dolan it like this if you melo want to get out here you have a chance next summer of 2018 i not buying him out while playing with his butt buddies it no point to reward him let him suffer here. All knick management is going to do is just going to be respectful to him and not cause drama and be professionial with him.